Can someone help with dating this shotgun my dad has?




Thanks in advance.

The green circles with lines through them came out in 2012.

Pictures of stock and barrel.

I've got my grandfather's and he bought it new in the 1930s. Shot pheasant with it his entire life.

That is a Remington Autoloading Shotgun. Remington began manufacturing the Autoloading Shotgun in 1905 and continued until 1911 when it became the Model 11. First year production was somewhere in the neighborhood of 7200 units but exact range is disputed. Your serial number would date it in the neighborhood of 1906-1907. That particular safety design was no longer in use after 1928.

Cool historical sidenote...

Remington initially had the sole license to produce the Browning design in the US (from 1904 until 1947) while FN produced the Auto 5 in Belgium. This proved fortuitous for American sportsmen and the Department of Defense since the FN plant was twice shutdown for extended periods during WW1 and WW2.

The Remington design is 100% American: durable, robust, no frills and cheaper to manufacture than the more refined FN guns. They are no Sweet Sixteen but are well made.

I have both a first year Autoloader in 16 ga and a US martial marked Model 11 Riot gun from 1942.

There is a fellow who writes a monthly column for Guns & Ammo Magazine who will tell you about everything about your shotgun. History, probable dates of manufacture, and even what the value is. If you're interested in parting with it.

92AG10 said:

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That is a Remington Autoloading Shotgun. Remington began manufacturing the Autoloading Shotgun in 1905 and continued until 1911 when it became the Model 11. First year production was somewhere in the neighborhood of 7200 units but exact range is disputed. Your serial number would date it in the neighborhood of 1906-1907.

Cool historical sidenote...

Remington initially had the sole license to produce the Browning design in the US (from 1904 until 1947) while FN produced the Auto 5 in Belgium. This proved fortuitous for American sportsmen and the Department of Defense since the FN plant was twice shutdown for extended periods during WW1 and WW2.

The Remington design is 100% American: durable, robust, no frills and cheaper to manufacture than the more refined FN guns. They are no Sweet Sixteen but are well made.

I have both a first year Autoloader in 16 ga and a US martial marked Model 11 Riot gun from 1942.

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Don't forget about the "American Browning," which was the Browning Auto 5 made at the Remington factories while FN was shut down during WW2. It's stamped as a Browning and not a Model 11. Couple of other minor differences too.

I've got one in 20.

Sooooooo, how much is it worth?

Is the buttstock cracked where it joins the receiver? I have seen that on several model 11's and is apparently a weak point. Mine is military marked and was used for aerial gunner training, has the holes in the receiver for attaching to a gun mount.

I was going to advise that whatever you do, don't make it mad. One hell of a punch.

Another successful TexAgs hookup?

WestTexAg12 said:

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Thanks for the entertainment! Smartasses!

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Your title for the original post was just too inviting. Every time I saw it I wanted to post a joke. Does your dad know you're dating?

OB NEVER disappoints....

Charismatic Megafauna said:

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12ga Aug 1937
20ga week of June 21 1930
https://www.remingtonsociety.org/factory-record-book-serials/

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mefoghorn said:

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WestTexAg12 said:

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Thanks for the entertainment! Smartasses!

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Your title for the original post was just too inviting. Every time I saw it I wanted to post a joke. Does your dad know you're dating?

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I gave him the link to this thread. So I suppose the secret is out now

92ag10 clearly knows a lot more than me about this. I assumed it was a model 11. If it's pre-model 11 listen to him

Charismatic Megafauna said:

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92ag10 clearly knows a lot more than me about this. I assumed it was a model 11. If it's pre-model 11 listen to him

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I actually just got off the phone with my dad. He mentioned the safety design and also thinks it's an older model. I think 92ag10 is correct on this one.

Is it a Sportsman Model or a regular Model 11?

WestTexAg12 said:

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Charismatic Megafauna said:

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92ag10 clearly knows a lot more than me about this. I assumed it was a model 11. If it's pre-model 11 listen to him

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I actually just got off the phone with my dad. He mentioned the safety design and also thinks it's an older model. I think 92ag10 is correct on this one.

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I have a very early serial no 20 gauge that has the button safety on the trigger guard. My 12 is not as old and has the same button style safety, maybe it was a 12 gauge model for that style.