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ReelAg6
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Hypothetically speaking, if one lived in a neighborhood with large lots that had a persistent fox/coyote problem eating all the neighborhood chickens and some cats, and it was COMPLETELY legal... what would be the best option for dispatching a few of the critters without disturbing the neighbors?

Suppressed .17 HMR, .22, something else?
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Suppressed 22LR with subsonic ammo would be my choice.
SouthCollegeStation
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As a rule of thumb for our guest - We don't let individuals on our ranches shoot any 22 Long Rifle shells at anything under 400 yards that has buildings or live stock within that ranges background.
It is is just not worth it....

The majority of our coyotes / foxes are shoot with 223 / 22 250's within 150 yards.
These are usually against hill sides or brushy backgrounds.
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suppressed 300 bo with subsonic ammo in order to be courteous to the neighbors, add longevity to your own ear drums, and potentially get more follow-up shots off if needed.
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I'd use a suppressed 9mm carbine that can be folded. Tactikewl.



zooguy96
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TAMUallen said:

I'd use a suppressed 9mm carbine that can be folded. Tactikewl.






Yeah, but the trigger sucks on that one.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
ReelAg6
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Anyone have experience with nicer air rifles? Seems like that is something to consider in this hypothetical, as well.

TAMUallen
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But you can buy one for 750 bucks haha!

Gunny456
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Hypothetically speaking. Prevent the predators from getting to the chickens and cats. Shooting them is a short term fix, if any. Remove one…. and another moves in…unless you are planning on eradicating both species, your problem won't go away. And by eliminating the predators you will then be complaining about all the rats, mice and rabbits in your house, barn and yards.

Just go buy you a new couple of guns. You don't need an excuse.
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zooguy96 said:

TAMUallen said:

I'd use a suppressed 9mm carbine that can be folded. Tactikewl.






Yeah, but the trigger sucks on that one.


Ruger PC Carbine has a great trigger and it folds in a way that you can keep you red dot on. Shooting it suppressed with 33 round GLOCK mags is a lot of fun.
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Suppressed subsonic 7.62x39 or .300BO. They will take down anything including feral hogs.
So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
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The Sun said:

zooguy96 said:

TAMUallen said:

I'd use a suppressed 9mm carbine that can be folded. Tactikewl.






Yeah, but the trigger sucks on that one.


Ruger PC Carbine has a great trigger and it folds in a way that you can keep you red dot on. Shooting it suppressed with 33 round GLOCK mags is a lot of fun.


I know. I already have one of those.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
ReelAg6
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ghollow said:

Suppressed subsonic 7.62x39 or .300BO. They will take down anything including feral hogs.
Hypothetically speaking, the drop of a .22 subsonic seemed attractive for the context mentioned. The hypothetical neighborhood could be wooded, but one could never be too safe, so a 48" drop over 200 yards seemed like a good idea.

Now for me personally .300BO is definitely something that's on the list and may have to happen sooner than later. I'm also kind of wanting one that's a little more compact, maybe something similar to a CMMG Banshee in 9MM SBR with a can, but have seen mixed reviews on their reliability.
ReelAg6
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Gunny456 said:

Hypothetically speaking. Prevent the predators from getting to the chickens and cats. Shooting them is a short term fix, if any. Remove one…. and another moves in…unless you are planning on eradicating both species, your problem won't go away. And by eliminating the predators you will then be complaining about all the rats, mice and rabbits in your house, barn and yards.

Just go buy you a new couple of guns. You don't need an excuse.
whoa whoa whoa, who said this was about me. Purely hypothetical.
f burg ag
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I have a suppressed Ruger American in 204 Ruger. It is perfect for yotes, foxes, hogs, crows….
SanAntoneAg
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If they are eating cats, why do you want to get rid of them?

The cats are negatively impacting the countryside more than the yotes and fox are.
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slammerag
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I shoot suppressed standard velocity 22lr. Not much louder, cycles better and flatter. Depends on situation and range
Vegas-aggie
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Barrett M107A1 50 BMG

They can run but they'll only die tired.
Oyster DuPree
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SanAntoneAg said:

If they are eating cats, why do you want to get rid of them?

The cats are negatively impacting the countryside more than the yotes and fox are.

Source?
Gunny456
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Cause nothing worse than feral cats. They indiscriminately kill. Unlike natural predators.
highvelocity
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Went on a couple urban coyote trips in east Texas. Similar scenario

Suppressed 300blk with subs and quality can was the platform of choice. Preferably in a bolt action will give you the best cover for your hypothetical mission.
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SanAntoneAg
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Oyster DuPree said:

SanAntoneAg said:

If they are eating cats, why do you want to get rid of them?

The cats are negatively impacting the countryside more than the yotes and fox are.


Source?


Simple inet search. For the U.S.

Birds: Estimates suggest domestic cats kill between 1.4 and 3.7 billion birds each year.

Small mammals: The same studies estimate that cats kill between 6.9 and 20.7 billion small mammals annually.

Feral vs. owned cats: The highest impact comes from feral and unowned cats, with each of these cats estimated to kill between 23 and 46 birds per year and 129 and 338 small mammals per year.

Impact on wildlife
Native species: Cats prey on a variety of native animals, including species like shrews, chipmunks, and meadow voles, not just invasive pests.

Ecosystem disruption: The high density of cats, often enabled by human food subsidies, allows them to have a disproportionately large ecological impact compared to wild predators.

Extinction risk: Globally, domestic cats have contributed to the extinction of at least 33 bird species, and they pose a threat to already vulnerable and declining species.

Other threats from free-ranging cats
Disease and injury: Outdoor cats are also at risk of injury or death from other wild predators, dogs, and cars.

Competition: They can reduce the availability of prey for native wildlife.

Invasive species: Cats are considered an invasive species in the United States, with their populations growing significantly since their introduction by colonists.
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They are also very effective if populations are controlled. There is nothing wrong with a couple of barn cats. There is something wrong with out of control breeding populations in the wild, especially in the country.

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SouthCollegeStation said:

As a rule of thumb for our guest - We don't let individuals on our ranches shoot any 22 Long Rifle shells at anything under 400 yards that has buildings or live stock within that ranges background.
It is is just not worth it....

The majority of our coyotes / foxes are shoot with 223 / 22 250's within 150 yards.
These are usually against hill sides or brushy backgrounds.


I am interested in the rationale here. Less likelyhood of ricochet with higher velocity bullets from the centerfire cartridges?

Not questioning you or saying you're wrong, looking to learn.
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Vegas-aggie said:


Barrett M107A1 50 BMG

They can run but they'll only die tired.


Surprised it took this long for a proper OB response.
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Gunny456
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Yes sir. I have two barn kitties. They truly earn their living.
I find mice bodies dead with only the heads left in my shop regularly.
Oyster DuPree
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