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trip98
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10:05a, 10/24/25
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Yes, I'm going to talk about a lease possibly coming on the market and with what I know so far it will be a decent and popular one.
No, I'm not on it right now and I don't own it and the person is NOT interested in leasing this year.
I have been fortunate enough to hunt with friends so never had to lease. And I'm just happy to get out and sit and hopefully get a doe as anything so I'm not going to pay $$$$$ for day or guided hunts.

Here's what I know...

The story is its a close friend of my wife. She lives in Houston but is from Lampasas County. Her parents health quickly took a turn for the worse recently and she lost her mother. While over there dealing with estate stuff she and her elderly father learned her brother and "nephew" were "managing" the property by leasing it out to folks who in turn supposedly leased it out to others. Father was not happy and put a stop to it.

The property is 2,000 acres with a house with electricity and water. I do not know anything about elevation, water, etc.

you guys tell me what other info you need to give an idea of what the lease would go for. I will reiterate, she isn't doing anything this season but is interested in leasing it out next year but doesn't know where to begin and asked for some help. I've got a few sources of input and you guys are one of them.
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10:15a, 10/24/25
6 guns $15 an acre
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10:19a, 10/24/25
$15/ acre sounds about right.
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10:26a, 10/24/25
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ask around if anyone knows someone recently kicked off a lease in Lampasas County and find out what they were paying. mark it up from there.
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In reply to trip98 • 10:50a, 10/24/25
trip98 said:
Yes, I'm going to talk about a lease possibly coming on the market and with what I know so far it will be a decent and popular one.
No, I'm not on it right now and I don't own it and the person is NOT interested in leasing this year.
I have been fortunate enough to hunt with friends so never had to lease. And I'm just happy to get out and sit and hopefully get a doe as anything so I'm not going to pay $$$$$ for day or guided hunts.

Here's what I know...

The story is its a close friend of my wife. She lives in Houston but is from Lampasas County. Her parents health quickly took a turn for the worse recently and she lost her mother. While over there dealing with estate stuff she and her elderly father learned her brother and "nephew" were "managing" the property by leasing it out to folks who in turn supposedly leased it out to others. Father was not happy and put a stop to it.

The property is 2,000 acres with a house with electricity and water. I do not know anything about elevation, water, etc.

you guys tell me what other info you need to give an idea of what the lease would go for. I will reiterate, she isn't doing anything this season but is interested in leasing it out next year but doesn't know where to begin and asked for some help. I've got a few sources of input and you guys are one of them.

Water will be an important factor. Will it be for year round access? What animals will the owners allow to be hunted? What is the hunter expected to do, versus what is the landowner going to accomodate? what kind of road access? How close to the nearest town?
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In reply to trip98 • 11:19a, 10/24/25
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I'd be in for the $15/acre as a whole kit and kaboodle.

You just tell him when to write the check.

(100% serious)
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In reply to OnlyForNow • 11:29a, 10/24/25
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OnlyForNow said:
I'd be in for the $15/acre as a whole kit and kaboodle.

You just tell him when to write the check.

(100% serious)


Seeing posts like this reminds me how cheap my lease is
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11:30a, 10/24/25
Sounds like the place could potentially be shot out under the previous arrangement
Can take years to recoup.

If it were me, I'd have feeders and cameras running right now. Some recent pics of what is on the place can go a long way in setting the price.
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In reply to CS78 • 11:42a, 10/24/25
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CS78 said:
Sounds like the place could potentially be shot out under the previous arrangement
Can take years to recoup.

If it were me, I'd have feeders and cameras running right now. Some recent pics of what is on the place can go a long way in setting the price.

that definitely is quite possible.

unfortunately these folks aren't the hunting type so no cameras or feeders to set up. hopefully the place gets rest over this season and folks don't poach it (or at least don't poach it too much!!)
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11:58a, 10/24/25
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Brother and Nephew are gonna be a problem. Despite the old man.

You're gonna need more info. If you can speak w/ the Brother, that's where I'd start.

You don't want to get in the middle of a family dispute...

ETA from what you describe, maybe Brother was leasing it to a management co that set up a MLDP and its possible this management co is managing adjacent properties.

If this is the case, I'd advise your wife's friend to keep it the way it is. Landowners have lots of responsibilities when leasing land to hunt.
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In reply to Gator92 • 12:54p, 10/24/25
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Gator92 said:
Brother and Nephew are gonna be a problem. Despite the old man.

You're gonna need more info. If you can speak w/ the Brother, that's where I'd start.

You don't want to get in the middle of a family dispute...

ETA from what you describe, maybe Brother was leasing it to a management co that set up a MLDP and its possible this management co is managing adjacent properties.

If this is the case, I'd advise your wife's friend to keep it the way it is. Landowners have lots of responsibilities when leasing land to hunt.

I'd say that's highly depenent on the landowner.

Ours does jack and squat. He may mow ROW's once a year, if that. I do 100% of the maintenance in my area from mowing/shredding to tree maintenance, brush clearing, etc. Same with my cabin at camp.
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In reply to Gator92 • 1:04p, 10/24/25
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Gator92 said:
Brother and Nephew are gonna be a problem. Despite the old man.

You're gonna need more info. If you can speak w/ the Brother, that's where I'd start.

You don't want to get in the middle of a family dispute...

ETA from what you describe, maybe Brother was leasing it to a management co that set up a MLDP and its possible this management co is managing adjacent properties.

If this is the case, I'd advise your wife's friend to keep it the way it is. Landowners have lots of responsibilities when leasing land to hunt.

the brother is a worthless drunk. doesn't hunt. doesn't go to the property. "Nephew" is living with brother b/c he's a lazy leach. Brother shares rental properties with sister (that dad set up and handed over to them) and lives off the income from those. And it isn't much. The gal thinks nephew concocted the lease to get easy money and they never told the gal about it. whomever he leased to put locks on all of the bedroom doors and kept their guns/stuff in there. Plus they had their own feeders/stands so it wasn't some daily hunt operation.

The nephew MIGHT be a problem or might just leave it alone. Especially once hunters are established out there. He's lazy and doesn't have the means to pick/defend a fight.

I've suggested to the gal that she go out there and visit the GW and take him around the property.

Gal also has power of attorney now. She is a no non-sense person and has the means to fight if needed.
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In reply to trip98 • 1:19p, 10/24/25
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Trip, would you email me? Boswellaw at gmail
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In reply to trip98 • 1:35p, 10/24/25
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While over there dealing with estate stuff she and her elderly father learned her brother and "nephew" were "managing" the property by leasing it out to folks who in turn supposedly leased it out to others.

This is what made me think it could possibly be a management company. Never said anything about "day hunt operation"

I was lease manager in ETX on 2K acres. Our lease was w/ the management co not the timber company landowner. It was MLDP and management co had 10's of thousands of acres under management. Timber co leased to mgmt co and mgmt co leased it to our hunting club. Timber co wanted the lease money, but didn't want to manage a MLDP lease. It also helped them check an ESG box and crow about it on their 10K. Win win.

From what you described above, sounds like lease was done w/ a handshake. However from what I bolded, it sounds like there is an intermediary involved. Do they have a valid lease? If handshake, then probably not. Even on paper, doesn't sound like Brother could legally execute. I'd want to know more about the intermediary.The hunters probably don't know a thing and thought they had every right to put locks on the doors.

Also, landowner does have a duty to know who is or maybe accessing his land to hunt. Names, address, hunting license number.
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2:05p, 10/24/25
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Small world. I am aware of the place and the two people you describe. Would be interested in at least discussing leasing in the future if she decides to lease it out.
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8:12p, 10/24/25
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$15/acre in Lampasas is cheap! I think you could get $20-$25.

We're talking about a 15-20 million dollar property.
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In reply to Yesterday • 8:47p, 10/24/25
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Yesterday said:
$15/acre in Lampasas is cheap! I think you could get $20-$25.

We're talking about a 15-20 million dollar property.


With the improvements you have described id say you can ask $25/acre and easily get it.
S Texas leases for $20/acre w nice improvements. What you are describing is RARE and will get scooped up quick at $20-25/acre in my opinion.
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In reply to trip98 • 10:26p, 10/24/25
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Trip. You can find out a lot by getting in touch with the TPWD biologist for that area. If it's had any MLD program on it he/she will know, as he/she would be the one the game counts/harvest data has been going to from either a management company or her kinfolk. If it's been in any MLD program you should be able to get population data and harvest data from them ….if the data has not been falsified.
The game warden will know little about deer numbers for the county. They don't cross over to the wildlife management side of the biologist. They can tell you about poaching or illegal game activity in the area but as far as game management, range conditions, etc…they just aren't trained for that.
I have some TPWD contacts on the Wildlife side in that area that I can call and get you in touch with if you need it.

ETA: Unless the place is overgrazed and or poor range conditions and no water sources…..or has something weird wrong with it ……$15 acre is way to cheap.
TAMU Wildlife & Fisheries Sciences
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9:15a, 10/25/25
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Leases are in high demand. Someone will be willing to pay whatever price she asks. Realistically, I would encourage her to keep in mind that the place has a long stretch of unfenced county road running through it with a fair amount of traffic. It has been prone to illegal dumping, kids mudding, etc., in the past due to proximity to town.
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9:52p, 10/26/25
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$20 an acre

Big business corporate lease will take it
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Layne Staley
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3:16p, 10/27/25
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got super lucky and got on one for $6.50 an acre with a house on it. there are some landowners that just want to make sure the right people that aren't going to shoot up the place.

not always about money. you might tell the landowner you will take care of stuff and if things like plumbing in the house go out, you will pay for it out of your pocket instead of them.
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