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cupofjoe04
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I am in need of a relatively quiet .22.

My only experience with a suppressor was a 10/22 with a suppressor, and wasn't particularly impressed with the results. I can't remember what brand the quieter device was, but I will ask the owner.

I have also spent some time with a Ruger Mark IV (unsupressed), and loved how it shot.

What would you recommend for a set up that prioritized noise. I'm open to a pistol or carbine. I know nothing about suppressors, so would really value opinions there. I know it's not like the movies, but I'm wondering how quiet you can get a rimfire round.

I also already own a .17 HMR with a bull barrel (which shoots dead nuts accurate), if it might be preferable to get the barrel threaded and add a suppressor to that.
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If you are trying to get as quiet as possible start with a bolt action.
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My Ruger Mark Iv and SW mp1522 are both very quiet with a rugged occulus suppressor especially with quiet or subs then you really only hear the action. I bet a bolt action would be basically silent.
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Because of the shorter barrel on a pistol you can use regular ammo and stay subsonic
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It would help to know what you intend to do with said quiet firearm. You've mentioned a pistol and a rifle, which have different purposes (not trying to insult your intelligence here). You've also mentioned two semi-automatic guns.

What you probably heard shooting the 10/22 was either the action, the super sonic crack of the round, or both. I agree with the poster above re bolt action .22 being the quietest setup. With subsonic rounds, all you will hear is the firing pin striking the case. Then again, there are limitations to a bolt gun vs semi-auto. I have a 10/22 suppressed with an old Gemtech Outback II and with subsonic rounds the only noise it makes is the action cycling the next round. You could shoot it indoors without hearing protection. A suppressed Mark IV would be the same and also sweet.

Since you have an .17 HMR, def look at suppressors that can shoot both .22 and .17, because once you suppress one gun, you'll want to shoot them all suppressed.
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OB: volquartsen black mamba, threaded barrel, Rugged Oculus suppressor.

35chililights
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Quietest actions will be either a bolt action or a level action.

I love my Henry lever because speed of second shots over a bolt action (you don't have to break grip and roll wrist).



This Henry in particular was made for suppressing. It comes threaded and the mag tube, because it comes out the front, is shortened to 10 rounds so it clears the suppressor without having to remove the suppressor. It's the Henry Frontier Threaded.
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OP- one thing only mentioned once so far is keeping the bullet subsonic. You said you weren't impressed with the results the one time you fired a suppressed rifle. The difference between supersonic and subsonic ammo is night and day.

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One of the biggest things about quiet shooting is a subsonic round especially out of a .22. If you shoot a round that breaks the sound barrier it will never be very quiet as you will always get that Crack.

Edit: looks like agsalaska beat me to it, but I'll leave my post up
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35chililights said:

Quietest actions will be either a bolt action or a level action.

I love my Henry lever because speed of second shots over a bolt action (you don't have to break grip and roll wrist).



This Henry in particular was made for suppressing. It comes threaded and the mag tube, because it comes out the front, is shortened to 10 rounds so it clears the suppressor without having to remove the suppressor. It's the Henry Frontier Threaded.

This is what you need here with subsonic ammo.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1023135565?pid=926766

I like how easy silencershop is and they carry the HUXWRX and the Switchback which are both great cans
35chililights
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Correct.

The specific ammo in the video was even a touch heavier than what you posted.

Mr. Dubi
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Dubi's 10/22, KIDD 22" heavy barrel is totally hearing safe running subs. Putting a can on it you only hear the bolt. It is actually quieter that my 16" CZ 457 bolt gun.

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Cupo. I really like this one that AAC builds. It with sub sonic ammo and a bolt gun is quiet.
https://advanced-armament.com/shop/silencers/rimfire/halcyon/
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35chililights
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Another thing to think about with .22 suppressors is that they get dirty fast.

My favorite .22 can to shoot at the moment is my EA Nyx BECAUSE it's all titanium.
What that means, vs some of the steel or aluminum offerings, is that I can dump it in my ultrasonic cleaner with no worries that the ultrasonic will cause surface pitting from cavitations.

If you don't have or don't ever have plans to get an ultrasonic cleaner, then skip this advice.
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agsalaska said:

OP- one thing only mentioned once so far is keeping the bullet subsonic. You said you weren't impressed with the results the one time you fired a suppressed rifle. The difference between supersonic and subsonic ammo is night and day.




I have a strong suspicion this was the issue. The owner of the suppressed 10/22 I shot handed me a case labeled subs, and touted similar things that I am hearing here- "you can really only hear the action". I fired once, and while it wasn't quite as loud as a normal .22, I certainly wouldn't have called it quiet by any means, and it was certainly not just the action. I wondered if he accidentally somehow mixed a super in his box of subs. But I'm not really sure, as I didn't repeat the test.

So, a sample size of 1 is not sufficient to form an opinion- thus I'm coming to the all knowing OB to seek your trusted experiences.

I appreciate the rec's so far! Gives me some good starting points for research!

Any thoughts on threading and suppressing my bolt-action .17 HMR (other than that means not buying a new gun)? That's partly while I might lean towards a pistol in .22, as I already have a rimfire bolt action. But, if I can achieve my goal and save $, that is a plus.
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I just did a Tikka t1x with a TBAC Breakdown 22 for my son. With subsonic ammo it is scary quiet.
Gunny456
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Suppressing your .17 HMR. Would be pretty cool imho.
I know there is subsonic ammo available for it. Now you got me thinking. Damn. Another new rifle. See what you did??
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But that 17 will never be subsonic (and effective). You'll always have the sonic crack.

So if you're going for really quiet, .22 will beat .17 all day every day for the sole reason that the 40-45 grain bullets are traveling less than speed of sound from a rifle length barrel.


I'm not trying to talk you out of suppressing the .17. That would be cool. But if you were not impressed by the sonic crack from your one time with the .22, you'll have the same experience with .17.
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Aguila sub-sonic ammo. I've used in suburbia more than a few times out of my old Henry lever action.
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not what OP is asking for, but I buy Hornady Sub-X ammo for a suppressed 300 blackout AR and it's really freaking quiet.
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.22 is super easy to suppress. As others have pointed out, get some slow subsonic ammo. I shoot my .22 subs with a .556 can and the only thing you can hear is the action. 300 blackout is almost the same.
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I thought someone made sub sonic .17 HMR but I'm in error. I guess it would be counter productive anyway as the whole point of the .17 was for speed and penetration and slowing it down would defeat the whole thing.
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Bolt action I really like the cZ 457, Tikka and Bergara.

Pistol a Mk4 variant. I love my Volquartsen Scorpion. It is the best 22 i have ever owned.


Gunny456
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Way back before all the suppressor popularity I built up a Remington 700 in .300 Whisper with a Hart Varmint barrel. Used an AAC suppressor on it and the only thing you hear is the firing pin.
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35chililights
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Well, even if they did, the mass isn't there for energy much more than a pellet gun.
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cupofjoe04 said:

I am in need of a relatively quiet .22.

My only experience with a suppressor was a 10/22 with a suppressor, and wasn't particularly impressed with the results. I can't remember what brand the quieter device was, but I will ask the owner.

I have also spent some time with a Ruger Mark IV (unsupressed), and loved how it shot.

What would you recommend for a set up that prioritized noise. I'm open to a pistol or carbine. I know nothing about suppressors, so would really value opinions there. I know it's not like the movies, but I'm wondering how quiet you can get a rimfire round.

I also already own a .17 HMR with a bull barrel (which shoots dead nuts accurate), if it might be preferable to get the barrel threaded and add a suppressor to that.

depending on what you are shooting at, have you considered subsonic .22 ammo ?
Gunny456
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On the .300 Whisper I hand loaded using only 7.8 grains of Hodgdon "Lil Gun" pushing a 200grain Sierra Spitzer Boat Tail at sub sonic speeds. It was a great quiet pig killer.
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Rifle quieter than pistol
Bolt action quieter than semi-auto
Subsonic ammo quieter than supersonic

Pick from the three categories above then just find one that tickles your fancy, they'll all be relatively similar.

As far as the can goes, there's going to be almost no consistent difference between the rimfire cans out there. Get one that you can disassemble. Meets any size requirements you have. And then is the cheapest.
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35chililights said:

But that 17 will never be subsonic (and effective). You'll always have the sonic crack.

So if you're going for really quiet, .22 will beat .17 all day every day for the sole reason that the 40-45 grain bullets are traveling less than speed of sound from a rifle length barrel.


I'm not trying to talk you out of suppressing the .17. That would be cool. But if you were not impressed by the sonic crack from your one time with the .22, you'll have the same experience with .17.


Great advice! Much appreciated
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Gunny456 said:

Cupo. I really like this one that AAC builds. It with sub sonic ammo and a bolt gun is quiet.
https://advanced-armament.com/shop/silencers/rimfire/halcyon/


Looks great. Is it fairly easy to clean?
Gunny456
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Yes. Here ya go.
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AgEng06
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Continuing the trend...

Ruger Mark IV 22/45 - Silencer Shop model and Rugged Oculus suppressor

goatchze
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Find an old Winchester 67. Very quiet and a great gun.
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cupofjoe04 said:

I am in need of a relatively quiet .22.

What would you recommend for a set up that prioritized noise.


"Relatively quiet" -- Ruger Mk IV, steel frame if you don't mind the weight, or 22/45 Lite if you do. The one w/the really short barrel pictured above might make the best option, as the short barrel will prevent high-velocity rounds from going supersonic. The FN .22lr semi-auto might be a great choice too, but I have yet to use one. If you want a pistol w/brace, look at the Ruger Charger pistol.

For a setup that "prioritized noise" -- Savage .22lr bolt-action rifle. Can't remember the model, but they provide a very high level of accuracy for the money spent. They ain't pretty, but they do work well. If you want something nicer, look at the Bergara .22lr w/carbon fiber barrel. A bit more accurate in my hands than the Ruger, and definitely more accurate than the Springfield bolt-action rifle.

Don't shoot Aguila Colibris through a rifle.......

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I have the same. Love it. Swapped the trigger for a Volquartsen, and ditched the rail for a lower profile mount.

Sounds like a nail gun full length. A Black Cat in short configuration.

Mini Mags are subsonic.
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