Outdoors
Sponsored by

Harbor freight can't be all that bad! Tools needed for new shop.

3,074 Views | 31 Replies | Last: 2 mo ago by PerdidoKey2030
mhnatt
How long do you want to ignore this user?
OK OB - i'm in the process of outfitting my new shop at the farm with tools. Since this won't be my full-time residence, I'm having to buy stuff that I already have at my house. I don't want to be hauling tools back-and-forth so it looks like I'm buying new (unless there's an exceptional used deal somewhere).

Black Friday deals can play a role here. Northern tool may be my go to, and Lowe's will likely throw some bones out soon, but I am open to pretty well anywhere.

I prefer upper mid range. Milwaukee would be awesome, but not unless I get some Good Friday deals.

I've only used Harbor Freight for non-essentials (or rare use power tools).

What have you found there that are decent buys?

SoulSlaveAG2005
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I have their pneumatic trim nailer. It's great.
I've used their HVLP gun and it was good for 10-15 projects.
Other tools that are decent are drills/etc.

Saws are iffy, as they aren't always square
This message has been approved by Brad, Jerry and Mitch..
Jason_Roofer
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Buy once, cry once. If your tools aren't crucial to your needs, then you can go HF. Otherwise, I would only cheap out on tools you can afford to have fail on you at a given time. I can't afford a failed impact wrench, or drill driver, but I can afford a ratchet to fail because I have 20 of them in my box. Just be smart.

Personally, I would avoid harbor freight for power tools and go over to Home Depot for Ryobi. There are often AWESOME deals on that stuff and I have some of those tools pushing 20 years old now. Are they as good as my Milwaukee? No. Not as fast, not and powerful, etc. But they also didn't cost 1500 bucks and I can walk back in the store under the warranty and they will swap it out. Milwaukee will run me through the ringer in the off chance I need it warranted.

Just be reasonable with where you want to get cheap and you'll be OK.
redaszag99
How long do you want to ignore this user?
For Milwaukee, Home Depot has great deals and bundles from time to time. They have free shipping when you buy online.

Northern Tool is good for Milwaukee tools as well be HD usually has better deals.
mhnatt
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I'm here at Northern Tool. Klutch (in house brand) is 1/2 the price of Milwaukee. Man it's hard to not give Klutch a try.

According to GPT, Klutch is just one step above HF but under Kobolt and Craftsman.
oh no
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I'm in same boat as OP.

I have mostly Dewalt at home

been going almost exclusively Kobalt at the shop at the land. I think Kobalt is the lower-tier budget in-house brand at Lowe's, but I find it all more than adequate and there's often a lot of deals to be had to acquire them. I've racked up about five or six of their batteries now and because there are a lot more, and a lot different, use-cases at the land, and currently a lot more projects, I've quickly acquired a ton of blue and black hand and power tools as well as garden/outdoor tools now and been happy with them so far - still in year 1 though.
MouthBQ98
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I haven't done the battery tools but I have some plug in and air tools and hydraulic tools from harbor freight and they're adequate.

I'm not the biggest fan of their lower end drill bits and cutting tools regarding the hardness of the carbide but so far not much to complain about.

My wife committed us to go all Ryobi on battery tools so the that's what I use. If I use a power tools a lot or ask a lot of it, I'll get a good one, but that is pretty much only my saws all and sanders.
ChampsAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I worked at HF for a little over three years. If you need hand tools, they are great and actually have a lifetime warranty, IF you hold onto the receipt.

Best quote I heard when I worked there was "If your livelihood depends on this tool, go somewhere else. If you're a shade tree mechanic, you're good."

We shipped at least one crate of returned tools back to corporate per month, sometimes 2 or 3. Nothing went to waste there. They sold the crates, unopened, to the highest bidder.
EFE
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Harbor Freight is Spanish for "I only need to use this specialty tool once"
El Gato Charro
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I also shop Murdoch's and Tractor Supply. They all run deep discounts on occasion. I have had great customer service at Murdoch's on my Stihl products, so I usually check them out first.

I have also done well buying from highly rated sellers on eBay.
schmellba99
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I've never had any of the battery stuff from HF, but have several other things and they are average to above average.

  • Blasting box. It's OK out of the gate as is from HF, but about $100 in mods and it is a damn good box.
  • Parts washer. Works just fine as is, but most folks add a filter to it. I did so the cleaning agent lasts a lot longer.
  • 30 ton press - no complaints other than I now want to make it a hyraulicly operated press because why not
  • Floor jacks. I have 3 of them. Only problem was self induced when I tried to use a 1.5 ton aluminum jack on something too heavy for it and one of the seals leaks now. Other two are solid as hell.
  • Impact sockets. Have never had a problem with them, and one set is at least 20 years old and was used like a rented mule on one of my jobsites before it became mine.
  • Badlands winch. I have a couple of them, they work great and have outlasted the Warn I originally had.
  • Predator 3500 Inverter Generator. I actually bought this one used about 9 years ago and it gets ran hard every weekend during deer season and a few outside of deer season. We have 3 of them between my buddy and I and I think 2 more on the lease. Can't go wrong with them. The 3rd one my buddy bought because it was $200 and he figured it would be good for a backup, which it has. We run it every now and then just to keep the gas fresh and even though it spent most of it's life in a stilt house in the middle of Christmas Bay, it still fires up and runs.
  • Drill press vice. I bought this thing something like 20 years ago and while it worked, it was always loose and kind of janky. But for drilling holes in wood or the occasional angle iron, it worked. One day it felt really loose so I looked at it and figured out how to take up a lot of the slack in it and it's been a solid vice for what I use it for since then.
I also have various hammers, pry bars, etc. that have all been good enough to get the job done. I buy a lot of grinding and flap wheels from them, but only when they have good sales on and it makes sense. They aren't the highest quality by any stretch but when you get a good sale going they become worth it. Extension cords, zip ties, etc. are all the same as anywhere.

I do have a 100lb stand alone sandblaster that has been problematic. I haven't spent any time trying to figure out why it doesn't work like it should. One of these days it will be my project. I expect that like most things, a few key parts being upgraded will fix the problem. Hope so anyway.
JP76
How long do you want to ignore this user?
What kind of power tools are you needing ? Saws ? Drills ? Grinder ?



For drills/drivers i would hit up Home Depot's Black Friday sale. I have had a few sets of these since 2012 and they get worked very hard multiple days a week.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18V-Cordless-2-Tool-Combo-Kit-with-Drill-Driver-Impact-Driver-2-2-0-Ah-Batteries-and-Charger-R92721/324536628


I own a Bauer sawzall and it works good but I only bought it to strip a floor with and it was like $50.

Have an old Chicago electric hammer drill from Hf that was used to drill/chip a 6 inch hole through an 8 inch thick concrete wall and it still works good but the switch got stuck so it no longer turns off.

Have had a few cheap electric sanders from HF and they all have failed.


But I have also killed $90 dewalt sanders so take it with a grain of salt





FatZilla
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Ryobi via directtools.com is a great middle ground for DIY shops. They also have a new brick and mortar location in Katy on Mason rd if you are close to that. Home Depot also has tons of great sales throughout the year on ryobi, especially black friday coming up soon.
SoulSlaveAG2005
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I'll add. Their Bessemer and other clamps are great. Plus with the no questions return, when one acts up, I just trade it in.
This message has been approved by Brad, Jerry and Mitch..
Charismatic Megafauna
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Harbor Freight Tools: You buy it you break it!
GrimesCoAg95
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Here is what has been good:
- US General toolboxes
- floor jacks
- shop stools
- air impact
- sockets (I have not used their ratchets)

I will just add that I would make sure to have the essentials at the new shop, but be willing to transport some of the power tools. I don't mind carrying saws and drills, and I would be frustrated using lesser tools. Transporting nailers and such is also pretty easy. I would probably want an air compressor at both places though.

I have been very happy with gearwrench for ratchets, wrenches, and sockets. I also use gw for some of the speciality tools.

The other option is to send current tools to the farm, and you can replace them with upgrades for home.
GrimesCoAg95
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I think everything that I said was good is in the Black Friday sale too.

Icon ratchets - 40% off
1/2" impact - $65
icon stool - $99
mechanics set - vary by set
3 ton floor jack - $99
US General Mechanics cart - $200
US General 56" roll cabinet - $789
TacosaurusRex
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I know yall are talking about tradtional hand tools, but this is the time of year my company starts replacing all of our small tools. If yall are needing air compressors/hammers, welders, trash pumps, or the random barn equipment that you didn't want to purchase new, feel free to shoot me a message and ask if it is something we have.
"If you are reading this, I have passed on from this world — not as big a deal for you as it was for me."
T. Boone Pickens
Chewy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
ChampsAg said:

I worked at HF for a little over three years. If you need hand tools, they are great and actually have a lifetime warranty, IF you hold onto the receipt.

Best quote I heard when I worked there was "If your livelihood depends on this tool, go somewhere else. If you're a shade tree mechanic, you're good."

We shipped at least one crate of returned tools back to corporate per month, sometimes 2 or 3. Nothing went to waste there. They sold the crates, unopened, to the highest bidder.
Thank you for your service.
Aggie1205
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
mhnatt said:

I'm here at Northern Tool. Klutch (in house brand) is 1/2 the price of Milwaukee. Man it's hard to not give Klutch a try.

According to GPT, Klutch is just one step above HF but under Kobolt and Craftsman.

I would be wary of anything from NTE right now. Don't know specifically on the tools, but they have struggled the past few years and I know in many cases their answer has been to try to become like HFT. That means their buying team has been lowering the quality of items (lowered specs) to try to get to lower retails or better margins. They have outsourced a number of corporate positions to India in the past few years.
AnScAggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Here's a different strategy to think about. I had a ton of Dewalt power tools at home and at the ranch I had a hodgepodge of Dewalt, Craftsman, Porter Cable, Black n Decker, etc none of the cordless stuff was remotely compatible and the corded stuff dated back to the 70's and 80's (not necessarily a bad thing). When I was getting ready to put my house on the market and had several projects to get it ready for showings, I splurged and bought my dream set of Milwaukee tools and took all my Dewalt tools to the ranch. There's one major advantage to this strategy that I see playing out after I move into my new house, I won't be forgetting/mixing up my home tools and ranch tools anymore.
91AggieLawyer
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
There are shops around most big areas (DFW/Houston/SA/Austin) that sell HD returns. They have tons of Ryobi tools if you want to go in that direction. I'm not a Ryobi fan, personally, but I think most of those returns are from people that had a project or two and decided to just take the tool back. Batteries may be iffy, but I'd check those places out if you can find one. They may also have a few Milwaukee and DeWalt tools, but I doubt the value on those will be much better than what you'd get at HD, especially at a BF sale.

As far as HF goes, I can't say I've had a bad tool from there save one (which I can't recall, but it was real cheap). All my power tools are Makita so I don't need theirs. However, if I needed a jobsite table saw, the one they've been selling for a couple or three years gets very good reviews compared to the DeWalt. I think their hand tools are money and I have 3 or 4 pairs of pliers and several wrenches from them. They're cheaper than Craftsman for the most part and I think the quality is about the same.

The reviews on the HF site for each of the products seems legit. If you find something that doesn't get at least a 4, pass. Otherwise, read the reviews carefully for people that are using the tool in the way you plan on using it.
Mas89
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Milwaukee socket sets and ratchets are worth the money, especially if you find a sale. Have bought both 1/2 and 3/8 sets at northern tool over the years and really like the red plastic cases and the tools.
Same with the 12 and 18v fuel power tools, lights, etc.
Gunny456
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I'll 2nd that on Milwaukee. Both on hand tools and power tools. I usually go online and shop for the best deals available. I'll usually find Milwaukee power tools and hand tools somewhere cheaper than HD or NT.
TAMUallen
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
HF has three levels of power tools

Budget like Chicago Electric. Buy and use this if you need the tool and might use it once and then it'll collect dust for a decade or more

Then there's the middle Bauer. You want to work on your car but you might do some stuff on the weekends, nowhere close to opening a mechanics shop.

Hercules is their top of the line but you still get HF prices especially if you get them as part of their regular and great prices.

Google Harbor Freight SEMA. They're coming out with some new/updated stuff but it'll be a year or so
John Cocktolstoy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AnScAggie said:

Here's a different strategy to think about. I had a ton of Dewalt power tools at home and at the ranch I had a hodgepodge of Dewalt, Craftsman, Porter Cable, Black n Decker, etc none of the cordless stuff was remotely compatible and the corded stuff dated back to the 70's and 80's (not necessarily a bad thing). When I was getting ready to put my house on the market and had several projects to get it ready for showings, I splurged and bought my dream set of Milwaukee tools and took all my Dewalt tools to the ranch. There's one major advantage to this strategy that I see playing out after I move into my new house, I won't be forgetting/mixing up my home tools and ranch tools anymore.

I have a lakehouse and this is what I am doing also, but I want my new stuff to go to the lake where more projects are done. I have a lot of hand tools that have lasted from HF. A few air tools also that have been rock solid. A great air compressor and hoses all from HF. My buddy bought a miter saw and brought it to the lake to help me and it was freaking awesome! He got it on sale for just at $200 I think, it was a Bauer. I think you have to be smart with purchases. My cordless impacts and drills are always a name brand since they are used so much, and my circular saw also.
All my Ryobi stuff from previous years failed far sooner than my HF stuff and I paid half for the HF. I do own Kobalt and have been impressed with how long they have lasted.
Second Hardest Workin Man on Texags
Naveronski
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
GrimesCoAg95 said:

Here is what has been good:
- US General toolboxes
- floor jacks
- shop stools
- sockets and ratchets
- hand tools, wrenches, etc

Edited your list for my experience, and they've made some great tools. I'm a fan of Dewalt power tools over Milwaukee, but that's just personal preference. The HF power tools seem to be getting much better recently.

Icon is their "premium" line, but their other brands are fine too.

Current HF is much, much better than their "cheap knockoff" reputation would suggest.
John Cocktolstoy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I never buy the Central Machinery stuff. I have smoked a few tools of theirs and took it back and bought the pricey but cheaper than Lowes stuff.
Second Hardest Workin Man on Texags
Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
HF is my "Do I really need this or is it just a want" store. Nothing I've done is beyond hobby or shade tree.
In Hoc Signo Vinces
TOM-M
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The last place I want to cheap out on a tool is when and where finding a replacement would be inconvenient.

HF is a good source for spare and/or non-critical tools (or in the case of 10mm sockets, a couple dozen extra just to have on hand since they evaporate over time anyway) and microfiber towels.
Dr. Teeth
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Totally depends on what your needs and desires are.

I wanted to start woodturning, so I bought myself a HF (Central Machinery) wood lathe and learned on it for a few years before I upgraded to a Laguna. No way would my wife have let me plop down that much money on a brand new hobby right out of the gate.

And yeah, those microfiber towels are very handy. Best whiteboard erasers on planet Earth.
PerdidoKey2030
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
For $200, hard to beat this Ryobi combo set. Definitely a keeper for second home/workshop.
ONE+ 18V Cordless 6-Tool Combo Kit with 1.5 Ah Battery, 4.0 Ah Battery, and Charger https://share.google/tpdt3Mlq8uqRzKIOT
Refresh
Page 1 of 1
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.