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Last year, Walther announced two exciting things: They were making the PPK in .32 ACP/7.65mm Browning again, and that they would offer a factory threaded barrel option for the first time ever.

Despite its popularity as the preferred movie gun of 007, there has never been a commercially available threaded PPK. If you wanted to pretend you were way cooler than you actually are, you had to send it off to a gunsmith to get work done.

I just heard that they are "pausing" PPK and PP production. I guess the guns didn't sell well, which is a darn shame because as craptacular as the 22lr and .380 versions of the PPK are, its really a decent little gun in .32 ACP. Not saying you should pick it over a modern subcompact 9mm for carry, but the gun was intended for .32 and it shines in that caliber.

There is still stock on the shelf if you want a .32 ACP PPK, either threaded or not. If you've ever wanted one in the proper caliber, now is the time to buy.





I bought one partially because who doesn't want to pretend to be James Bond, partially because .32 ACP suppresses pretty well, and mostly because thanks to my VZ-61 I already have a lot of .32 on hand.



If you have the basics of gun ownership covered (carry pistol, home defense rifle, hunting shotgun/rifle, plinking 22) and you'r looking for weird stuff to buy, highly recommend a PPK in 7.65 Browning.
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I looked buying one of these pretty hard. They are just so dang heavy.

And, I wanted one not just because Bond carries it. Elvis carried it too. How can it get any cooler than Bond and the King? Maybe we find out that Fonzie carried it too.
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love that gun. i've dumped thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of rounds, through one of those.


on an N64.
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All the Pearland S.W.A.T. guys carried PPK,s as their back up weapons for some years. DPS carried SIG232,s as back up weapons. The two guns were very similar…..coincidence? …think not.
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I want to be Bender when I grow up.

If only for the guns.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
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Gunny456 said:

All the Pearland S.W.A.T. guys carried PPK,s as their back up weapons for some years. DPS carried SIG232,s as back up weapons. The two guns were very similar…..coincidence? …think not.



I grew up in the Pearland area!
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
Gunny456
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We hosted their PD and a few others at our ranch for training exercises each year. They always brought some cool stuff to play with.
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James Bond as a Brit:

M- "007 there is an unfortunate bit of nasty business on the Korean peninsula. We need there immediately to dispatch of it, post haste. This is of the utmost imortance".


James Bond as a Texan:

M- "Jim, theres a some beech over er in Koe-Reah and we need you to go kill eem. Don't get killed or caught."
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Milwaukees Best Light said:

I looked buying one of these pretty hard. They are just so dang heavy.



They are, and I wouldnt tell anyone to pick one up instead of a modern gun for a carry piece.

But they are a neat piece of history. The PPK has been produced basically continuously from 1931 to 2025, and if Walther is being honest about "pausing" and not discontinuing production, they could make it a full century.

Other than the M1911 there arent many pistols that can claim similar longevity.

Its crazy Walther hasnt tried to cash in on their pop culture clout with a factory threaded barrel before now.
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Walther built lighter versions of the PPK. All alloy version was called the PPK-L. Then they made a stainless/alloy version called the PPK/S.
Sig did likewise in the 232.
BenderRodriguez
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Gunny456 said:

Then they made a stainless/alloy version called the PPK/S.


Nope.

PPK/S was a product of the Gun Control Act of 1968. PP frame, PPK slide to meet our idiotic import requirements.
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I traded for a ppk in 380. Kept it about three months. It was junk
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2040huck said:

I traded for a ppk in 380. Kept it about three months. It was junk


I agree the 380s and 22 versions are really mediocre.

The 32 is marginally better. But still mostly worth it for the vibes/history over any practicality.

And I just like guns in .32 acp. Its becoming a problem.
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I had always read that the PPK/S had a zinc alloy slide available to help reduce weight. That it was built either zinc alloy slide or SS.
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Nope.

The PPK/S (s stood for sporting) model was first made after the 1968 GCA, specifically to be heavy enough to meet the "sporting" criteria that used weight as one of its elements to judge whether a gun was suitable for "sporting purposes". The 68 act was targeting so called "saturday night specials", and the original PPK didnt meet import requirements due to not being heavy enoughz.

Later American made PPK/S models being made with lighter alloys has no bearing on why the PPK/S was created or what the name signifies, which is a PPK slide on a PP frame, not alloy components or a stainless finish.

ETA: not sure what search phrase you used to generate that AI summary in the screenshot, but you should do the same with the phrase "ppk/s origin". AI summaries only work well with the right input.
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Ok. My point in my post was they made lighter versions. PPK-L's or PPK/S's with alloy slides. So if a person wanted a lighter version they can be found. Right?
Same with the Sig 232.
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Gunny456 said:

Ok. My point in my post was they made lighter versions. PPK-L's or PPK/S's with alloy slides. So if a person wanted a lighter version they can be found.


The current Walther production run (what this thread is about) comes in all three sizes. PP, PPK, and PPK/S. All three sizes come in both stainless and the black finish (i think nitride, its not blued). All three can be had threaded or not as well, which is cool.

The lightest of the three would be the PPK.

So if someone bought a current production Walther PPK/S stainless expecting it to be lighter, they would be…disappointed.
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Point taken. My original reply to Milwaukee was only because he said he had thought about getting a PPK but did not because it is so heavy.
I was merely pointing out PPK's can be found that are lighter due to alloy frames (PPK-L) or slides (Variant of PPK/S) if he wanted a lighter PPK to carry.

ETA: I wasnt searching AI for origins or history of PPK's I was searching for PPK's that were made lighter ..again in response to Milwaukee...hence the search I posted.

I think your new one with threaded barrel is cool by the way.
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I want the set-up in the second pic.

What's the best option for purchase?
The problem with people that don't get it is they don't get that they don't get it.
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BenderRodriguez said:





Looks like you're rocking that CGS Mod 9SK suppressor. Own one myself, had it for a few years, have yet to use it.
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zooguy96 said:

I want to be Bender when I grow up.

If only for the guns.

You do realize he is weird AF, right?

I mean really weird. Nice as all get out, but dude is...well, he's Bender.
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schmellba99 said:

zooguy96 said:

I want to be Bender when I grow up.

If only for the guns.

You do realize he is weird AF, right?

I mean really weird. Nice as all get out, but dude is...well, he's Bender.


Whats the Groucho Marx quote? "I wouldnt be a part of any club that would have me as a member?"
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localag88 said:

I want the set-up in the second pic.

What's the best option for purchase?


Buy a PPK-SD. If you dont have a 9mm capable suppressor with a fixed 1/2x28 mount, buy one of those too.

Voila!
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AggieRob93 said:

BenderRodriguez said:





Looks like you're rocking that CGS Mod 9SK suppressor. Own one myself, had it for a few years, have yet to use it.


Yep, I usually have it on the AP5-P with a 3 lug mount.

Its not my quietest can but it fits the gun size wise.

I should put my Vent 2 on it just to see how quiet it is…..it will look insane though.
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Quote:

Then they made a stainless/alloy version called the PPK/S.


I had one of these. Loved it. I hate recoil, and the .32 has none.

But it jammed all the time. I had guys polish the insides and there was a recall for something that was fixed, but it kept jamming.

Finally sold it some years ago.
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CactusThomas
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OldArmy71 said:


Quote:

Then they made a stainless/alloy version called the PPK/S.


I had one of these. Loved it. I hate recoil, and the .32 has none.

But it jammed all the time. I had guys polish the insides and there was a recall for something that was fixed, but it kept jamming.

Finally sold it some years ago.


The design is solid. These have been made in various places by various manufacturers over the years. Some decent, some terrible.
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BenderRodriguez said:

Nope.

The PPK/S (s stood for sporting) model was first made after the 1968 GCA, specifically to be heavy enough to meet the "sporting" criteria that used weight as one of its elements to judge whether a gun was suitable for "sporting purposes". The 68 act was targeting so called "saturday night specials", and the original PPK didnt meet import requirements due to not being heavy enoughz.

Later American made PPK/S models being made with lighter alloys has no bearing on why the PPK/S was created or what the name signifies, which is a PPK slide on a PP frame, not alloy components or a stainless finish.

ETA: not sure what search phrase you used to generate that AI summary in the screenshot, but you should do the same with the phrase "ppk/s origin". AI summaries only work well with the right input.


This is interesting history that I didn't know. I hate everything about the 68 GCA. But I strongly prefer the ppk/s over the ppk. I can't recall if it was a Skeeter or Bart Skelton article that put me on to the ppk/s.
Gunny456
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That sucks. The Leo's that used them (PPK/S) at our ranch for their training really liked them and talked good of them.
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OldArmy71 said:


I hate recoil, and the .32 has none.
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Yeah, I suspect most peoples experience in the US with any variant of the PPK is the .380 version, and the gun is sooooo much better in the proper, original chambering. .32 PPK is a much better time.
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CactusThomas said:


This is interesting history that I didn't know. I hate everything about the 68 GCA. But I strongly prefer the ppk/s over the ppk. I can't recall if it was a Skeeter or Bart Skelton article that put me on to the ppk/s.


Youre not alone in that. Ive seen multiple people say they chose the new ppk/s even though the proper sized ppk was available.

The full size PP grip gives you one extra round in the mag and a little more grip so its not a wrong answer.

With the flush fit mag on the ppk my pinky has nowhere to go. The extension lets me get a little better grip.

I have a Hungarian FEG AP (full size PP clone in .32), and even the full size grip is a little small, imo.

I just wanted the more "correct" size for my PPK, but I get the appeal of the hybrid ******* child of dumb laws.
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Found a fairly fun read on the PPK, PPK/S, James Bond gun history and detail review of the PPK/S that I thought might be of interest. Especially the part about Ian Flemming (Creator and writer of the James Bond stories) originally having James Bond using a Berreta.
https://lynxdefense.com/reviews/walther-ppk-s/
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BenderRodriguez said:

CactusThomas said:


This is interesting history that I didn't know. I hate everything about the 68 GCA. But I strongly prefer the ppk/s over the ppk. I can't recall if it was a Skeeter or Bart Skelton article that put me on to the ppk/s.


The full size PP grip
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EFE said:

BenderRodriguez said:

CactusThomas said:


This is interesting history that I didn't know. I hate everything about the 68 GCA. But I strongly prefer the ppk/s over the ppk. I can't recall if it was a Skeeter or Bart Skelton article that put me on to the ppk/s.


The full size PP grip



Heard it in my head as I was typing it.

Decided to hit send anyway.
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