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About a year ago I cleared our west fenceline in the front of our property. It was full of brush, rattlesnakes, and busted barb wire fencing scattered throughout. Currently it's clean with a nice new galvanized fence, I love looking at it….. but my wife doesn't. She misses the privacy that the brush provided and doesn't love that the house doesn't feel like it did when we bought it. Without the brush in place we have a nice clear view at the farm field on the adjoining side.

In my continuous mission to keep my wife happy we've come up with a plan. The idea is a "fruity fenceline". Planting cattle safe fruiting and floral trees in a staggered row about 5 yards off the fence, giving myself enough room to drive down with an atv. Trees I'm considering are pear, permission, pomegranate, mulberry, and crepe Myrtle. The fenceline is about 1200 ft long.

I personally love the idea and think once established it'll look really neat and the kids will enjoy harvesting some fruit. I had grok render an image for me which has my wife sold. Figured I would need irrigation to establish it all and would also need to protect the trees from the cattle for the first two years.

I have a background in Ag and feel like I can figure this out but there must be some things I'm not thinking about. We live in Sinton, TX. Am I crazy, and what are some things I should be considering that I may be overlooking?
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Make sure a 5 yard buffer is enough. Personally, I would like to have buffer wide enough for a small tractor and shredder. As those trees grow, the buffer will get narrow. The buffer would also allow you to pull a small PTO sprayer on both sides of trees if needed.
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if u can, spent a couple hundred extra dollars and put some drip emitters on ur trees. the tubing and emitters are really cheap and it's very easy. you can put tons of 1gpg emitters on one line and have plenty of pressure to run them. i have planted a good amount of trees in my yard, garden and pasture over the years and there is nothing worse than having to hand water them those first 2 years in a bad drought just to keep them alive, especially if you have to haul it.

i like the idea of a wider area to drive around them too, but i think 5' will keep you safe from cows. the main thing you absolutely want to make sure of is that you keep the growing point on you trees out of reach of a cow tongue because it they eat that, it is really hard for rhe tree to get back on a roll. That can take a young tree growing gang busters and put it in slow motion.

Also, I made my own 4' tall grow tubes this year out of welded wire and greenhouse material and planted 75 6" trees in them. nearly everything lived and many of them grew to over 4' tall in 6 months. i kid you not.

crepe myrtles are great because they grow very quickly and do good in any soil. if you want cheap ones look up the crepe Myrtles guy in waxahachie. red rocket is a tall tree type variety. natchez is a good white one, too.

https://crapemyrtleguy.com/

anyways, you are speaking my language and i have been farting around doing what you are talking about since 2010. i think water is gonna be the biggest issue for the first 2 years. and one other thing is grasshoppers. be prepared to spray something if you have an infestation. They have given me trouble a couple of times because on a young tree just trying to establish roots in a drought, they can't hardly fight another battle with grasshoppers. they will eat every leaf on the tree. especially fruit trees. they aren't as hard on crepe myrtles though.

anyways, sounds like a ton of fun and satisfaction once you get some growth on them. best of luck!!
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That looks like an awesome idea, though I will caution that fruit trees can be a bit of work if you are looking for them to actually produce.
On a side note, being in Sinton you should try to get your hands on some Sinton Citrangequat trees.
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If you are close enough to the coast to have gumbo clay, consider adding mayhaws to your list. I personally wouldn't use pear trees, particularly not bradford pear.
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How many trees do you think you'd need for that 1200 ft? How far apart would each one be?

They aren't fruit trees, and can be more of a bush if you don't prune them, but I'd consider tossing in a few vitex trees. The bees and butterflies love them when they bloom. I assume they are cow safe…
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chris1515 said:

How many trees do you think you'd need for that 1200 ft? How far apart would each one be?

They aren't fruit trees, and can be more of a bush if you don't prune them, but I'd consider tossing in a few vitex trees. The bees and butterflies love them when they bloom. I assume they are cow safe…


I agree. Vitex are very drought tolerant, too, pretty, fast growing, and easy!
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Vitex is a good one. Especially if you want to see bees or other pollinators.
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You're far enough south that you could likely get away with citrus, especially satsumas.
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I'm way up by Bryan/College Station, far from Sinton, but the property I bought last year has a bunch of established persimmons, crepe myrtles, and native pecan trees. I don't know much, but I would suspect that for cost, ease of planting, ease of maintaining (if you want to just let them go), fast-growing, and beauty with colorful annual blooms, crepe myrtles would be a great choice and safe for the grazing animals on the property. Native and very hardy and resistant.

I think the persimmons can have great fruit, but you have to make sure you have female varieties if you want them to produce. The trees can be brittle and can break in half easily with strong winds or even under the weight of a heavy crop year, and I think can be more delicate and susceptible to diseases that can kill them.

I know nothing about pear or pomegranate trees in south Texas gulf coast.


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In my continuous mission to keep my wife happy

Good luck with that.

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I'll need to do some research on these other tree types. Greatly appreciate the added reccomendations! Great insight on the grasshoppers waldo, we have lots around but I've never thought twice about them.

My plan for protecting them from cattle the first two years is to protect the entire area with an electric fence. I'll have to keep the area mowed down more frequently but I don't want to go through the trouble of planting all these trees just to have the cattle stunt their growth.

I'll follow up soon with my planned spacing to get yall's thoughts on that.
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Sounds like an awesome way to add more work for yourself in 5 years and into perpetuity. I'd ignore the wishes of the wife for now.
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Ragoo said:

Sounds like an awesome way to add more work for yourself in 5 years and into perpetuity. I'd ignore the wishes of the wife for now.

Single? Or divorced?
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Married 16 years
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Another good thing about vitex is they are ridiculously simple to propagate thru cuttings. So you can quickly generate a bunch of them for minimal cost.
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chris1515 said:

Another good thing about vitex is they are ridiculously simple to propagate thru cuttings. So you can quickly generate a bunch of them for minimal cost.


good point! crepe myrtles are really easy too!
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Crepe Myrtles go completely bare in the winter. No good for screening, unless liberally interspersed with evergreens. You're obviously not looking for ONLY fruit/bearing plants, so I'll half-heartedly suggest Texas Mountain Laurels. They're native and evergreen. The reason the recommendation is half hearted is that they're slow growing. But SO good once they're grown up! If they're interspersed like you'd have to do with CMs, they'll add tremendously to the screening (eventually).

The only question is whether the soil type in Sinton is good for them. They grow great in hill country soil!
Serious Lee
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its a nice idea but generally speaking, fruit trees and cattle do not mix for a multitude of reasons. I had a difficult enough time establishing an orchard with sheep and goats running through it.

I would go the more ornamental route if I were you. Make the land work for you, not the other way around. Im not familiar with your area, but assuming the right variety is chosen, pears will probably be the most low maintenance/self sufficient of the fruit you have listed. Would take well north of 2 years for them to be established as cattle-proof though.
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