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Gatlin gun for $1200?

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Cibalo
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The claim is you need about $1k worth of 556 barrels and bolts, $200 in other supplies, and a 3D printer.

This is where you can read about the development, parts list, and 3D files
M1337 - Nopel https://share.google/tEHma3S8ksVrCBlTL

For some reason I feel like as soon as you download the files you are flagged by the ATF.
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oh no
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it might be $1200 for that guy, and the 3D printing files might be free, but he has access to the 3D printer and materials for the housing. That has to be really expensive, right?
normaleagle05
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You can print something like that on a 3d printer that costs less than $200. Of course you could spend more on a printer. And it can't be more than $40-50 worth of printer filament.

ETA: site says 4-6 spools of PLA+. Those start at ~$15 each and go up depending on your color/finish/brand options.
Buck Compton
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normaleagle05 said:

You can print something like that on a 3d printer that costs less than $200. Of course you could spend more on a printer. And it can't be more than $40-50 worth of printer filament.

No way they are 3D printing that with plastic/polymer materials unless they are doing it over and over and over again... It's not filament. It's metal if you want it to last. Or you have to replace parts all the time.
Cibalo
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There are online shops you can send the plans to along with material/printer type and they will make it for you.

I ask a friend that does a lot of printing. He said using a single printer would take about 1 month to make all the parts on his machine.
Cibalo
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Buck Compton said:

normaleagle05 said:

You can print something like that on a 3d printer that costs less than $200. Of course you could spend more on a printer. And it can't be more than $40-50 worth of printer filament.

No way they are 3D printing that with plastic/polymer materials unless they are doing it over and over and over again... It's not filament. It's metal if you want it to last. Or you have to replace parts all the time.

In the materials list he has PLA+ as the polymer filament material. He does say you can/should use a higher heat resistant material for those parts in contact with the barrels
normaleagle05
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https://nopel-0.com/m1337/

Don't shoot the messenger here, but even printing the bolt carriers. Only the bolts, barrels, and some miscellaneous hardware appear to be metal.

The design doesn't transfer as much heat to the bolt/carrier as a standard AR because they aren't cycling with the gas tube. That just gets vented out the gas port.
Average Joe
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I own a 3d printing business on the side, so I got curious and loaded it into the slicer. I didn't bother going through his build guide, so this is rough numbers. Looks like several parts are either/or depending on caliber, but I'm sure there are several parts you have to print multiples of.

It's just about 6kg of filament, so about 6 rolls. I buy mine in bulk for ~$8/kg, depending on what my suppliers can get. I'm not a big shop, so not amazing prices. So, ~$50 without considering electricity and time (which is going to cost A LOT if you use someone to print this).

Using PLA, which, as stated, would not be preferred since you only get to about 55C before glass transition, it's 7.3 days of printing.

PETG is slightly better on temp, but still only about 75C, and slightly higher costs ($1-2/roll).

I would probably go ASA or ABS to get 100C glass transition temp, and possibly carbon fiber reinforced for any part that might deal with impact. Costs jump significantly on filament ($20/kg on average), but ASA and ABS are more dense so you drop down below 5kg of filament. It also cuts a full day of printing.

Damn, after loading it all up I kind of want to design some barrels and print it all as a cool looking prop for my shop.

edit: Oh, also, someone know a good lawyer for when the ATF kicks down my door?
Buck Compton
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normaleagle05 said:

https://nopel-0.com/m1337/

Don't shoot the messenger here, but even printing the bolt carriers. Only the bolts, barrels, and some miscellaneous hardware appear to be metal.

The design doesn't transfer as much heat to the bolt/carrier as a standard AR because they aren't cycling with the gas tube. That just gets vented out the gas port.
Thats fine for them as a proof of concept. The same way people were printing glock frames and other parts that kept breaking... So I have serious doubts on reliability. Still a fun/interesting project!
oh no
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Sorry I guess I was way off. In the video it almost looked like the 3D printed chasis / housing for all those .556 barrels was made of metal and I just assumed that's not normal 3d print material- must be expensive to print that.
TX AG 88
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3d printing can create molds for cast metal parts. Cheaply.
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