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Putting prop on new Suzuki 150

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Manual says must tighten nut to 55 ft-lbs. YouTube videos indicate maybe just tighten it with impact wrench or regular socket against a pine board backup and when you have a small indent on the board you are good to go.

I don't have a torque wrench . Sure I can get one but is it worth the time and money or just tighten it up and go?
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Been changing props on boats for the last 30 years or so, and pretty sure I've never used a torque wrench. Use a 2x4 or whatever you have to lock in place and tighten it up. Just use normal strength, don't overdo it, but putting a new prop on isn't something anyone should worry about. If you are worried about over doing it, get one of those plastic prop wrenches, you will break it long before you mess up the prop shaft or the prop. Congrats on the new 150 Suzuki, great motor and will last a lifetime.
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A torque wrench costs like $60, that motor is what, $15k? Sure, just wing it
Gunny456
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Yes. Absolutely use a torque wrench for proper prop nut torque specs! Never use an impact wrench! Here is why. Before the advent of rubber prop hubs the propshaft and lower unit driveshaft were protected with a prop shear pin to insure the shear pin would break before causing damage to the drive shafts if hitting something with the prop. Then, due to larger horsepower outboards and advanced prop technology, prop manufacturers developed an expandable hard rubber hub inside the props to accomplish the same shock protection for the prop and drive shafts. The rubber hub, when torqued correctly, will expand and and not only keep the prop from spinning inside the hub but also allow it to "give" and absorb shock if the prop hits an hard underwater object. The expandable hub works much like an old style rubber drain plug in a boat where you tighten it to expand so it doesn't come out.
Not every prop manufacturer uses the same density rubber so it's very advisable to use the recommended torque specified by the particular prop manufacturer because........
Too tight can not only crack or damage the rubber hub.....but can also prevent it from absorbing shock or giving a little if you hit a hard underwater object......causing prop shaft or drive shaft damage. Consequently, Not tight enough can cause you to spin the hub under load….ruining the hub. So there is a reason the prop engineers specify a torque range for their specific propellers.
I can't tell you how many customers over the years that have prop issues due to improper torque on their props....either from being over torqued or under torqued.
Best way to tighten is to place a block of 2x4 between one of the prop blades and the bottom of the cavitation plate. This gives you a solid way of holding the prop stationary as you apply the torque.
It is a good idea to always apply a good coating of anti-seize on the prop shaft splines when replacing or re installing a prop.
Also it is imperative that you use the proper thrust washer behind the prop specific to the brand prop you use. All thrust washers are not the same. Using the wrong thrust washer can damage your prop shaft and/or your prop.
Get you a dedicated 1/2" drive deep socket. Usually it will be an 1-1/8" or 1-1/16" for V-6 or greater outboards and a torque wrench. Keep them in your tool bag in the boat so you will always have them.
ETA. It's also a very good idea to pull your prop off at least once a season to make sure you don't have fishing line wrapped around your prop shaft. The line can damage the shaft seal allowing water to get into your lower unit lubricant.
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smstork1007
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Like i said above, tighten it up against a 2x4 and go boating. Have fun and enjoy the new motor.
Gunny456
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Using the 2x4 is a good practice to keep from cutting your hand trying to hold the blades as you tighten or for taking the prop off. However it needs to be torqued to specs to work correctly as I stated above.
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I know your background, and respect it, but like you i've also put on thousands of props, from TRP's to 600 hp mercs, and it's just not that complicated. Run old school rubber hubs, to solid Merc X hubs with surfacing props, and everything in between. If you got a torque wrench, for sure use it and do it to spec. But i've never once had a prop shaft or lower unit problem do to incorrect torquing of the prop. I know manufactures have specs, and reasons for such, but unless someone is just dumb, they can just get it good and tight and never worry about it again. Now removing prop fairly regularly and looking for fishing line, especially with braid so prevalent, is a necessity.
Gunny456
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I guess we will simply just disagree on this. You certainly can get away with tightening one up like you say …until you hit something very solid with the prop. Because over torque can defeat the whole purpose of the protection of the hub.
So why not just do it right and eliminate the chance of it not being correct and torque it to the owner manual specifications?
As you say it's not that complicated.
Just about every guy I know that works on stuff has the use for a torque wrench anyway.
OP asked about should he follow the manufacturer torque recommendations. I recommend he does.
I would hate to see him damage his new outboard or prop from either too much torque or too little. I've seen owners and dealers not torque props to the manufacturer specs and then a guy hits something with his prop and bends a vertical drive shaft or prop shaft or trashes his lower unit and then is denied warranty or insurance coverage because of improper prop installation. That can become very costly.
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Gunny456
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halfastros81. Regardless of what you decide to do on your prop torque, after your new installation of the prop, I highly recommend that you re-check for proper torque and/or tightness after you run the engine a few hours.
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Well if nothing else it is a good excuse to buy a new tool. Who doesn't like tools on the OB? I use a torque wrench on my props. It is just too easy not to use it.
halfastros81
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Thanks all for your input! I'm going to get a torque wrench . .
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You can rent one for free at O'Reilly Auto Parts. I think they require $100 deposit and refund it all within 48 hours.
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Gunny456 said:

halfastros81. Regardless of what you decide to do on your prop torque, after your new installation of the prop, I highly recommend that you re-check for proper torque and/or tightness after you run the engine a few hours.

Agreed. I have a newer suzuki 200, which is same motor. Have definitely had them get loose with use and had to retighten. This is with the Merc flo-torq II hubs. I suspect the face of the plastic hub insert crushes just slightly at first use. Maybe molding lines in the plastic that compress. I know that hub seems to be the go-to now but I'm not really a fan.
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I'm not either. Yamaha has stayed away from them for now and still using the regular hub on their props.
Some of the custom performance prop companies aren't using them either for that reason.
Hope you're doing good sir.
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OnlyForNow
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I'm guessing that if you over torque a prop on and something fails you want covered under warranty and the shop can't get the nut off, you may be denied warranty work due to incorrect installation.
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$22. I've been trying to break mine for 10 years so I can buy a better one. I have not been successful.

https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-drive-10-to-150-ft-lb-click-torque-wrench-63882.html
halfastros81
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I got the free rent one at Oreilly. Worked just fine.

My new prop has the new hub style and that created some minor confusion for me as far as what OEM parts to use and what parts to use from the prop supplier but I have to say the Powertech people (prop manufacturer) were very responsive in Answering my few questions
Gunny456
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Glad you got it all figured out and installed correctly.
Yes. The Powertech guys are good people. One of my best friends works for them.
Safe boating sir.
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