Impact Fees?

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MsDoubleD81
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Since I am relatively new to CS, anyone have input on this? Ad popped up when I googled "Aggie Band 4 Way Cross Formation"! On city council agenda for tomorrow, November 22.

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COLLEGE STATION CITY HALL IS MAKING A BIG MESS.
It's about to get much bigger and more expensive for the citizens of College Station. The problem is that City Hall is double-dipping their citizens, and the Impact Fees are the mechanism they're using to inflate their budgets.
happyinBCS
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I just emailed each of the council members and asked PLEASE VOTE NO ON IMPACT FEES TOMORROW
UmustBKidding
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And one of them likely will, cunha. Not a chance any of The others will. A good reason to vote in the runoff dec 14 early voting starts nov29
happyinBCS
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I have received a response from Cunha and Brick I will be voting in the runoff but it will probably be a low turnout
BCSWguru
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Stop voting for these morons, lol
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I have seen presentations from both sides. It is pretty clear that the impact of new homes city wide is offset by the increased taxes. I have asked over and over again.for the math to demonstrate the need. You can't show that the water treatment plant needs $20 million in repairs in 3 years and blame that all on new builds. Give me the data that shows that the new homes are causing an expansion, less the incremental new tax revenue, and I can understand it.

Impact fees are simply an attempt to prop up existing homes values against new construction.
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If the developer has not allowed the impact fee in their initial cost/benefit analysis, then I can see a real issue. Proceeding from this point forward, then the impact fee should be applied to manage things like traffic congestion, that their development will have on the local and regional road ways.

Flatlander
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New development increases the tax base and raises property taxes, which results in more money coming into the city. And infrastructure should take advantage of economies of scale--the more expansion there is, the less per-capita should be required to maintain it.

Crompton was on the radio last week talking about how the impact fees are needed to help relieve road congestion. He said there are only 3 possible options: a) impact fees, b) raise the overall tax rate on everyone, or c) live with worsening road congestion. It is interesting that he did not mention a 4th option: Spend the money the city already has more wisely, and prioritize infrastructure needs ahead of all the other things they waste money on. It is disturbing that they do not even consider that as an option.
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happyinBCS said:

I have received a response from Cunha and Brick I will be voting in the runoff but it will probably be a low turnout
What was their position?
Chrundle the Great
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Meanwhile they are literally constructing a castle on prime real estate, but oh no w/o impact fees how will we pay for basic services?
happyinBCS
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They did not state their position but like what was previously said Cunha will be the only one that votes against it so let's get more business people on the council Academia folks have no clue how to run a business
Koko Chingo
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That is disappointing. A yes, no, or I don't know is Ok, if they say why they are taking that stance.

By now, I am sure they already know how they are going to vote. To not give a position is a slap in the face to us voters. They are probably checking the pulse to see how many come out to the meeting and speak against the position.... Just like the pay for parking initiative that fell through in the historic district.

I am with you, we need small business owners (who are not looking to financially benefit from their positions) to run for city council.



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I get totally different results when I Google Aggie band four-way
UmustBKidding
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While I agree the current councils slant is problematic they are not the only problem. Several years back the P&Z was holding hearings in regard to the last update of the comprehensive plan one of the new areas included in this update was the Greens Prairie Reserve area owned by two people. Water & Waste water was present and indicated that if the whole area was zoned for high density residential it would require a large infrastructure upgrade costing millions to deal with the volume. They also indicated if half the area was medium density instead of high density that the existing infrastructure was sufficient. But at least at that point P&Z was populated by real estate interest and the decision was f water people they can just figure it out we are making all this high density. Guess what, they had figured it out, requires millions of dollars to upgrade. Does ignoring the staff to help your interest help drive impact fees. You bet it does.
So the issue is not just academics, its members who are looking out for their own interest instead of the good of the residents. What we need is people who understand the duty is to judicially spend the residents money to accomplish the desires and needs of the whole population of residents. Cunha is an example of not needing a PHD to do the job, common sense and listening is what is needed. I hope Lavine is cut from the same cloth but I am certain that he does not buy the parks are as essential as police and fire bs that his opponent spouts.


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I have seen police and 1st responders stretched, I have never had to wait for a park to clear out so I could use it. Never waited in line for a walking/biking trail. Parks and greenspaces are nice, but I think we should weigh the supply and demand before ever placing emphasis on them
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Response received from John Nichols:

It is important to note that impact fees were adopted in 2015 and have been in place since then. We are required by law to update the impact fee study every five years. So that is what is on the City Council's agenda.

Impact fees are one way to pay for the system wide costs of new growth. They do not directly affect any existing properties unless they are redeveloped. Having said that, I understand that there are many different views of how the impacts of new growth on our water, waste water and roadway systems should be financed. We cannot just ignore the congestion or lack of system capacity. Without impact fees, the cost of addressing these new growth related infrastructure demands will have to funded through property taxes across the entire City. I am committed to finding a good balance between property taxes and the level of recovery of impact fees that will serve the City of College Station for the years and decades ahead.

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.

best regards, John

John Nichols
College Station City Council, Place 5
jnichols@cstx.gov
979.764.3541 (Office)
979.218.9351 (Mobile)
MsDoubleD81
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LOL! It was an ad on one of the links I clicked!!!

Thanks everyone for the input!
happyinBCS
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in his response to me he said "It is true that impact fees do get passed on to home buyers or business customers and the owners of undeveloped land I believe that moderate growth is ahead for the city and will be maintained with moderate use of a combination of property taxes and impact fees " sounds a bit different than his response to you
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Taj Ma City Hall.
Luxury fire stations.
We need more taxes!
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
happyinBCS
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watching on channel 19 it is pretty sad
happyinBCS
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it seems to be a fundraising event tor Malony so far
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Flatlander said:

New development increases the tax base and raises property taxes, which results in more money coming into the city. And infrastructure should take advantage of economies of scale--the more expansion there is, the less per-capita should be required to maintain it.

Crompton was on the radio last week talking about how the impact fees are needed to help relieve road congestion. He said there are only 3 possible options: a) impact fees, b) raise the overall tax rate on everyone, or c) live with worsening road congestion. It is interesting that he did not mention a 4th option: Spend the money the city already has more wisely, and prioritize infrastructure needs ahead of all the other things they waste money on. It is disturbing that they do not even consider that as an option.

Not enough blue stars for this post. Stop spending on parks/bike trails, and over the top fancy fire/police stations and city halls.
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Seems to me that Mr. Crompton, a Recreation and Parks professor has his loyalties somewhat skewed.
MsDoubleD81
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"The football guy".....was he talking about Hunter Goodwin?!
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Flatlander said:

New development increases the tax base and raises property taxes, which results in more money coming into the city. And infrastructure should take advantage of economies of scale--the more expansion there is, the less per-capita should be required to maintain it.

Crompton was on the radio last week talking about how the impact fees are needed to help relieve road congestion. He said there are only 3 possible options: a) impact fees, b) raise the overall tax rate on everyone, or c) live with worsening road congestion. It is interesting that he did not mention a 4th option: Spend the money the city already has more wisely, and prioritize infrastructure needs ahead of all the other things they waste money on. It is disturbing that they do not even consider that as an option.

Pretty much all of the major city roads are operated by TxDOT in some capacity, yet CoCS gets the blame for any construction problems there. There are a few exceptions, like Rock Prairie Road (currently building a longer left turn lane at Wellborn; at the expense of adding a median near the gas stations), but I do remember the rebuilding of Longmire and Rock Prairie completed in less time than people were complaining about it.

Not that CoCS is great at road infrastructure, the construction company that built the portion of Graham Road near Longmire did such a poor job that the road had to be rebuilt just a decade later, and their failure to build workable alternative outlets to Wellborn, Texas Avenue, or the highway (missing the boat on making Welsh or Dexter viable corridors from campus to even Southwest Parkway, or the whole Munson debacle) have cost more long-term.


happyinBCS
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I watched the joke of a meeting for 5 hours and they were throwing around money like it was a fun exercise. The majority of the council does not have any business or real-world experience. As has been said before on this board throw all of them out and try again. I think although it was hard to listen to, Impact fees were raised 10%
Bob Yancy
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I've researched impact fees ad nauseam. The conclusions I've come to are in this letter I recently sent to elected officials in Austin.

My question to you all is, am I wrong? Am I off base, or do you think this accurately describes what's happening in our housing market?

Please let me know.

Respectfully,

Yancy '95

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April 3, 2025

To:
The Honorable Senator Paul Bettencourt re: SB1883
The Honorable Senator Charles Schwertner re: SB1883
The Honorable Representative Brad Buckley re: HB2025; HB5489
The Honorable Representative Paul Dyson re: HB5489; HB2025

Chairman, The Honorable Representative Gary Gates, House Committee on Land & Resource Management
Chairman, The Honorable Senator Paul Bettencourt, Senate Committee on Local Government

Subject: Impact Fees

Honorable Senators & Representatives:

My name is Bob Yancy and I am a councilman for the City of College Station, Place 5. I am writing this letter in support of Senate Bill 1883, HB2025 and in particular HB5489 regarding Impact Fees. I support your legislation curtailing impact fees because empirical data indicate these and other exorbitant fees are doing damage to the College Station single family housing market, particularly the entry level housing market.

As you are aware, the State of Texas is undergoing a housing crisis. Perhaps nowhere in our state is that crisis being experienced the same way as it is in College Station. The City of College Station itself, at both the council and staff level, have acknowledged the housing crisis in our community. To identify these challenges and craft solutions, we recently completed a Housing Action Plan that contains startling information, some of which is identified below, with my supplemental observations:

Most College Station workers live outside the city limits, where they can afford a home.
69% of College Station employees do NOT live in College Station. This number has grown exponentially in recent years, roughly coinciding with our depressive housing policies.
Population and development predictions project a significant housing supply shortage by 2030, in just 5 years. I contend it's happening now.
58% of renters and 18% of homeowners with a mortgage in College Station are cost burdened (spending more than 30% of their monthly income on housing costs).
The 2023 median sales price for a non-new construction home in College Station was $389,000 a price that is out of reach for most middle-income families.
Current housing production projections estimate a shortage of over 4,100 units.
Our average home price has grown by 73% since 2015, strongly correlating with the city's impact fee policy in 2016.
The median family income has only increased by 25.86%.
The median sales price for a new single family home in College Station is $442,513.
Occupancy pressures, in which too many people occupy too few dwellings, are on the rise in our community.
And today, as of this writing, there are only 2 new single family homes for sale listed in the MLS in the city limits of College Station for less than $310,000.

While the preponderance of these facts were given rise to by larger economic forces such as the 'Texas Miracle' and growth of Texas A&M, I contend that our housing policies in the City of College Station have exacerbated the problem. Put simply, our excessive fee regime is causing 'builder flight' to neighboring jurisdictions, leading to scarcity of new single family housing inventory and artificial inflation of home valuations.

Why are single family home builders leaving College Station? Our neighboring city, the City of Bryan, imposes a dramatically lower fee regime across the board. Because of our proximity, an easy comparison can be made to measure the efficacy of pro-growth versus anti-growth housing policies, such as the imposition of impact fees, and other fees, at exorbitant rates. For example:

The City of College Station imposes a Parks Fee assessed per lot of $5,256.00, over 10 times greater than the city of Bryan. (This is our parks impact fee by another name.)
Developer fees are approximately 4 times greater in the City of College Station than Bryan.
Other inspection and connection fees are approximately 1.25 times higher in College Station.
The City of Bryan imposes no impact fees, while College Station imposes fees that are highly variable depending upon where the home is built, but in no instance are less than thousands of dollars per lot.
As a consequence of a higher starting land cost and the difference in fee regime, the same size and quality new home (1500 square foot, 3 bedroom entry level home) differ between the two cities by approximately $45,000 in price.

In 2016 the City of Bryan made a policy decision to incentivize entry level housing in a significant way. Concurrently, the City of College Station made the policy decision to impose impact fees and adhere to its more stringent fee structure. The results could not be clearer. Two years later, in 2018, Bryan eclipsed College Station in new single family housing starts for the first time in modern history, despite being a much smaller city. In every year since, Bryan has significantly outpaced College Station in single family housing starts. The data are below, and are irrefutable (see chart).

Why is the single family detached home important? The single family residential home is the bedrock upon which the United States and Texas' housing markets are built. Single family detached homes are more sought after, appreciate in value faster than any housing type, and allow young families and homebuyers from all walks of life the ability to accumulate wealth. Single family detached homes hold their value better over time. The buildup in equity this product provides allows a first time homebuyer to step up into a larger home later.

Families grow with a city and as they do, opportunity is passed onto younger families, urban professionals or retirees that seek to purchase their original home from them. But, excessive fees and resulting builder flight artificially elevate home prices and thusly income requirements to qualify. This in turn delays a potential home buyer's entry into the market.

Also, impact fees that don't vary with the size of a home are terribly regressive. Thousands of dollars in impact fees assessed on a starter home are felt much more acutely than the precise same fee added to the cost of a $1,000,000+ home. When these costs are amortized, the impact only worsens.

Developers and builders can simply avoid College Station's fee assessments by taking their business elsewhere, and data indicate they are doing so. Neighboring jurisdictions do not charge impact fees and other fees are significantly less burdensome. While College Station's new single family housing market is stagnant at best, Navasota, Snook, Bryan and unincorporated areas of Brazos County are booming as builders turn to these areas. Recall from above that almost 70% of our workers do not live in our city, because they cannot afford a home here, yet they drive our streets and utilize our public amenities while paying no property taxes.

While the professed goal of assessing impact fees is a transference of infrastructure tax burden to new home buyers for the benefit of existing residents (i.e. to "make growth pay for itself") the real world impact of impact fees is that BOTH are happening. As builders and developers leave a jurisdiction, a new housing shortage occurs as it is in College Station. This shortage artificially inflates the value of ALL existing real estate in a city as buyers compete for dwindling options, thus causing property owners, both new and existing, to pay more in property tax. Only those with frozen property valuations remain immune to these deleterious effects.

Furthermore, from a fairness perspective, how can those who enjoyed the benefit of their infrastructure burden being shared by an entire city for decades, suddenly impose policies that transfer this burden disproportionately to those entering the market anew? Infrastructure is a public good. You no doubt drive on streets every day that you don't live on. We all enjoy the benefits and amenities of well designed infrastructure. Are we to begin assessing those who live closer to a new fire station a greater portion of the financial burden to build it? The same argument might be made for parks, amphitheaters and all manner of developments for the public good.

As Texas works its way out of this housing crisis, I applaud your efforts to hold the line on disproportionately punitive fees that are damaging our housing markets and I offer this "Tale of Two Cities" as ample economic evidence that you are on the right track. It is no surprise that both parties in this session are filing significantly more housing and land use bills. We have unfortunately earned this scrutiny.

While I believe in the concept of local control, in this instance, the damage I believe we are doing to our new single family home real estate market compels me to endorse your legislation for the benefit of the next generation of Texans. I believe SB1883, HB2025 & particularly HB5489 would help College Station at this critical time, and as one member of council, I thank you for this proposed legislation.


Respectfully yours,
Bob Yancy
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Bob Yancy
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My opinions are mine and should not be construed as those of city council or staff. I welcome robust debate but will cease communication on any thread in which colleagues or staff are personally criticized. I must refrain from comment on posted agenda items until after meetings are concluded. Bob Yancy 95
MeKnowNot
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What percentage of College Station single family residential zoning remains undeveloped?

Would impact fee's placed on developing the remaining x% really have any significant impact on revenues raised by the City or on the cost of the remaining lots?

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Well said Mr Yancy. You are spot on.
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instapt
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So you are for higher taxes? Wouldn't the alternative to impact fees on new developments be higher taxes on everyone?

I do think that the underlying premise of this letter is off base and misleading. You're manufacturing a "crisis" by describing the scenario of a ritzy resort town where the local employees are priced out of living where they work. How is it a crisis that many people who work in College Station live 3 miles up the road in Bryan (and probably vice versa)? Isn't that just a free market?

I fully admit to probably not understanding how local government works. But aren't you a councilman in College Station? Wouldn't it be under the purview of you and your fellow city councilors to change College Station's impact fees rather than posturing with letters to Austin and here on TexAgs?
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instapt said:

So you are for higher taxes? Wouldn't the alternative to impact fees on new developments be higher taxes on everyone?

I do think that the underlying premise of this letter is off base and misleading. You're manufacturing a "crisis" by describing the scenario of a ritzy resort town where the local employees are priced out of living where they work. How is it a crisis that many people who work in College Station live 3 miles up the road in Bryan (and probably vice versa)? Isn't that just a free market?

I fully admit to probably not understanding how local government works. But aren't you a councilman in College Station? Wouldn't it be under the purview of you and your fellow city councilors to change College Station's impact fees rather than posturing with letters to Austin and here on TexAgs?


I've been fighting hard for a more pro-growth policy regime in our housing market, including advocating for easing impact fees, particularly entry level single family homes. But to no avail. I believe we are damaging our housing market and that builders are fleeing to neighboring jurisdictions where they don't face these fees.

That in turn has buyers fighting over dwindling supply and driving our valuations up. THAT increases your taxes whether the rate goes up or not. Finally, when 70% of our workers don't live here, but drive our streets and visit our parks, etc, that drives your taxes up too. More people not paying property tax means higher property taxes for permanent residents.

Respectfully

Yancy '95

PS: as for "posturing," that's an interesting choice of word. If you believed you had empirical data of a worsening housing crisis and the state offered a potential solution, whats the problem with advocating for that policy solution? And, how is me asking for your opinion, as my boss, posturing? I just want to know your feedback. Would you prefer elected officials that make back room decisions without caring what you think?
My opinions are mine and should not be construed as those of city council or staff. I welcome robust debate but will cease communication on any thread in which colleagues or staff are personally criticized. I must refrain from comment on posted agenda items until after meetings are concluded. Bob Yancy 95
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crbongos said:

Well said Mr Yancy. You are spot on.


Thank you for your feedback.

Respectfully

Yancy '95
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MeKnowNot said:

What percentage of College Station single family residential zoning remains undeveloped?

Would impact fee's placed on developing the remaining x% really have any significant impact on revenues raised by the City or on the cost of the remaining lots?




Residential Zoned land, not much. But there's more not currently residentially zoned than people generally believe.

Impact fees impact both. They DO raise money for infrastructure, albeit a drop in the bucket for what we have to spend. However, the disproportionate impact on a homebuyer, particularly an entry level homebuyer, is significant in my opinion, as one member of council.

But perhaps the biggest impact of impact fees is builder flight. Builders opt for jurisdictions where they don't have to pay them, like Navasota, Snook, Bryan and the county. The best policy in the world can be self-defeating. Were we a lone city in the county that'd be one thing, but we're not.

Builder flight is real.

Respectfully

Yancy '95
My opinions are mine and should not be construed as those of city council or staff. I welcome robust debate but will cease communication on any thread in which colleagues or staff are personally criticized. I must refrain from comment on posted agenda items until after meetings are concluded. Bob Yancy 95
dubi
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This is just infuriating. Is the city manager who caused the Macy's debacle also responsible for the ill advised impact fees?

No wonder we have such a huge problem.
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dubi said:

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This is just infuriating. Is the city manager who caused the Macy's debacle also responsible for the ill advised impact fees?

No wonder we have such a huge problem.


Council bears responsibility for housing policy. Staff often advocate for policy too much for my tastes, but they bear no responsibility for this policy issue as councils past pushed hard for our housing policy today. I have pushed hard to change it for basically 2.5 years, but I've failed. I don't understand it, really. I've been in real estate beyond a homeowner in this town for 25 years and what's happening seems plain to me. We don't have to touch the tax rate because of rapidly rising valuations, which is to say everyone's taxes are going up due to dwindling supply of new single family homes. The growth in the senior population is rising dramatically, while young families can't afford to move here.

I wish I could be more persuasive, but on this I can't. So yes, I worked with our state rep in an attempt to do something. I respect my colleagues and I don't want to be contrarian, I'm just left with no choice given what I see.

But in either event- can't blame your city staff for this.

Respectfully

Yancy '95
My opinions are mine and should not be construed as those of city council or staff. I welcome robust debate but will cease communication on any thread in which colleagues or staff are personally criticized. I must refrain from comment on posted agenda items until after meetings are concluded. Bob Yancy 95
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