What's up with this fire hydrant?

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EliteElectric
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It's been running non stop for a month. It has a hose attached to it pouring water out that is running in the ditch along SB Hwy 6


KidDoc
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It is running a LOT of the time. I know because I often bike to work and have to avoid the pond it creates in the parking lot.

No idea why but they dump a TON of water there month to month.
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https://www.cstx.gov/departments___city_hall/commserv/code/see_click_fix
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VStarr2024
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Was told recently that it's some sort of overflow for the water tower across the highway.
EliteElectric
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so we're wasting water because the flow controls and/or level controls aren't working on the tower?
EliteElectric
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doubledog
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It's called "Aggie Engineering"
maroon barchetta
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Still running tonight when I went to Costco.

Remember a certain city employee posting here in the past telling us to conserve water in the summer while the city was watering new sod behind the city hall?

Maybe that poster can chime in about this poor example of water conservation while at this moment we have multiple people and agencies coming together from neighboring counties to try to stop some greedy people from selling all of our water to cities to the west.

I'm curious to hear why this hydrant flushes water into the ditch so often.
ukbb2003
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My gym is over there and the water is flowing there constantly.
Hornbeck
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No wonder my water pressure took a drop. I live in the neighborhood behind there….
EliteElectric
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Well they responded


Hornbeck
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Where's waterchick when you need her….

The city doesn't have a way to store this treated water other than dump it in the creek? Serious question.
toolshed
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It's been draining for months. I noticed it last year. Maybe it's been turned off and back on, but it's been draining a loooong time.


waterchick
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Hi everyone. I'm gathering information to answer some of the questions asked here, but long story short, it is related to the water tower across the highway. I'll chime in again when I have more information.
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It was turned off for a long time then turned on again recently.
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toolshed said:

It's been draining for months. I noticed it last year. Maybe it's been turned off and back on, but it's been draining a loooong time.




Gotta keep those utility bills high.

Those are amateur numbers. You've gotta pump those numbers up.
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waterchick
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OK, I got more information and I have an explanation.

A 24-inch valve that feeds into the water tower next to the Tower Point HEB failed recently. It's leaking. The valve has to be isolated (closed) with no water going into it in order to make the repair. The repair also requires some specialized parts that need to be ordered.

In order to isolate the larger valve, other water valves nearby need to be closed (sort of like turning off a faucet). Some of those valves didn't seal, so the larger valve continued to leak. Turning off other valves to isolate the larger valve would have put some water customers out of service. The temporary fix for this was to open that fire hydrant to relieve system pressure, because it's at a lower elevation. The fire hydrant solution is not ideal in terms of water conservation, but it is the best solution available to keep customers in water service. The repair is scheduled to be completed this week, and the hydrant will be closed when the repair is complete. While the repair is being completed, we are going to make additional improvements to our system so that, in the future, we have better options available than opening the fire hydrant.
maroon barchetta
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Does CoCS have a preventive maintenance schedule to regularly exercise valves?
waterchick
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I believe we do but I will confirm that. Great question.
cz308
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waterchick said:

OK, I got more information and I have an explanation.

A 24-inch valve that feeds into the water tower next to the Tower Point HEB failed recently. It's leaking. The valve has to be isolated (closed) with no water going into it in order to make the repair. The repair also requires some specialized parts that need to be ordered.
Wonder how much these repairs are going to cost us? At least we have a newly painted tower to look at in the meantime.
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I remember seeing this water flow/leak over 6 months ago, at least. Why so long to suddenly now fix it? Public scrutiny?
maroon barchetta
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turfman80 said:

I remember seeing this water flow/leak over 6 months ago, at least. Why so long to suddenly now fix it? Public scrutiny?


The timing is suspect.
Hornbeck
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Lick Creek needs some water before the treatment plant outflow?
curry97
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There has been a work crew off and on at the water tower several times over the past month
waterchick
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I checked. We do have a program to exercise water valves regularly.

Edit to add: my schedule this week won't allow me to monitor this thread regularly.

John Cocktolstoy
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Many of the parts in a fix of this size are not kept on hand. And can have huge lead times. Nothing you can do about it but wait for parts. If you saw something about this 6 mo ago, it was probably because the purchase has to go to council and then if passed parts are ordered.
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EliteElectric
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John Cocktolstoy said:

If you saw something about this 6 mo ago, it was probably because the purchase has to go to council and then if passed parts are ordered.
Most repairs do not need council approval.


In other news I agree with others in this thread, the storyline and fix it line are suspicious.
John Cocktolstoy
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EliteElectric said:

John Cocktolstoy said:

If you saw something about this 6 mo ago, it was probably because the purchase has to go to council and then if passed parts are ordered.
Most repairs do not need council approval.


In other news I agree with others in this thread, the storyline and fix it line are suspicious.
I can say for fact that this does. And there are more than just city council, approvals keep waste from happening. This is a warranty issue from what I believe, but the parts still have to be provided by someone and they don't appear out of thin air. It is a rough predicament to be in.
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chickencoupe16
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John Cocktolstoy said:

EliteElectric said:

John Cocktolstoy said:

If you saw something about this 6 mo ago, it was probably because the purchase has to go to council and then if passed parts are ordered.
Most repairs do not need council approval.


In other news I agree with others in this thread, the storyline and fix it line are suspicious.
I can say for fact that this does. And there are more than just city council, approvals keep waste from happening. This is a warranty issue from what I believe, but the parts still have to be provided by someone and they don't appear out of thin air. It is a rough predicament to be in.
Regardless of what approval is necessary, 6 months (if accurate) is ridiculous. I'm willing to listen about who my displeasure should be directed towards (the council, bureaucrats, the manufacturer, all of the above) but I'm not sure how this is a rough predicament.

Is it broken? Yes.
Are we wasting money waiting? Yes.
Can we fix it? Yes.
Is this covered under warranty? Maybe.
If we go ahead and fix it ourselves, can we receive some sort of reimbursement if found to be under warranty? Probably.

Which of these makes doing nothing the best option?
Hornbeck
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Convenience.
Diddler_44
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Other people's money.
EliteElectric
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Circling back to this to report, as of Tuesday AM the water was no longer running from that hydrant.
waterchick
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As of last Thursday 5/1 it wasn't running.

It was a warranty repair. Recall that the water tower was drained and recoated in March 2023 (the mural went up on my birthday so i remember that).

As I said above the hose was the least bad option for a not ideal situation. I do appreciate Elite Electric and others commenting on this.

We do have a valve maintenance program. Some parts are kept in stock in our warehouse, but some larger or more specialized parts need to be ordered. It would be fantastic to be able to run to Lowe's (especially for this!)

I hope that helps. If you have more questions, my email address is in my profile. You're welcome to send me a message with your questions, rants, insults, etc.

maroon barchetta
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And lose our anonymity?
waterchick
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I wouldn't disclose that here! But seriously - that's a fair point. For what it's worth, TexAgers have emailed me over the years and I conveniently forgot their given name.
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