Recycling

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robcovol
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Does anyone know the exact status of the recycling facilities on West Campus? I work on campus, but live out of town, and I used them to dispose of my recyclables. I heard that they are now only for recyclables on campus. Thank you!
histag10
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I thought they were always only for students living on campus and campus generated trash.

You can go to the landfill to dispose of trash or recyclables.
robcovol
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I, and others, started using the campus to facility when the recycling center run by the city of Bryan by Walmart was closed about two tears ago. The nearest recycling facility I can find is in Navasota.
techno-ag
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I understand that most items placed in recycling bins end up in the landfill. Is that the case on campus?
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FlyRod
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robcovol said:

Does anyone know the exact status of the recycling facilities on West Campus? I work on campus, but live out of town, and I used them to dispose of my recyclables. I heard that they are now only for recyclables on campus. Thank you!


I work near there and see people of all types using it, not just students, etc. The gates are usually open so I think you can use it with no trouble.
robcovol
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Thanks for the update. They used to have a long uncovered dumpster which is not there anymore. There is also a sign that says open from 8-12. It used to be open from 7.00 to 3.30.
maroon barchetta
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robcovol said:

Thanks for the update. They used to have a long uncovered dumpster which is not there anymore. There is also a sign that says open from 8-12. It used to be open from 7.00 to 3.30.


I'm guessing they got tired of people putting non-recyclable items in there, using it instead as a way for getting rid of old toilets and mattresses and box springs and furniture without having to go to the landfill.

I saw all kinds of stuff there on weekends or Monday mornings.
BCSWguru
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so is this the Adriance Lab location? is it open again?
FlyRod
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maroon barchetta said:

robcovol said:

Thanks for the update. They used to have a long uncovered dumpster which is not there anymore. There is also a sign that says open from 8-12. It used to be open from 7.00 to 3.30.


I'm guessing they got tired of people putting non-recyclable items in there, using instead as a way for getting of old toilets and mattresses and box springs and furniture without having to go to the landfill.

I saw all kinds of stuff there on weekends or Monday mornings.



Yeah that's pretty awful. I guess enough folks bought the myth that the stuff goes into a landfill that they started using it as a trash dump off. Sad.
Koko Chingo
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I should have read this post earlier. We got some patio furniture and had way too much left over cardboard to fit into the recycling bin that is only collected bi-weekly. I went by Friday to the Adrience Lab Rd. recycle drop off. All the gates were closed (late morning) and there is signage, something to the effect of ("For Official A&M use only).

I will have to swing by and take a pic next week.
PS3D
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Can't you just put recyclables out in the bin, or am I missing something here?
Koko Chingo
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Pickup is every 2 weeks which is ok for normal use. For me I got patio furniture and have a ton of cardboard that won't all fit even if I cut it down
robcovol
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I forgot to mention in my original post I sent an email inquiring about this to President Welsh two weeks ago. I'm still waiting for a reply.
legalbird
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If recycling worked, you would see businesses everywhere doing it.

ONCE a year, you will see TREX doing a recycle campaign. If profitable, they would do it everyday. The fuel, manpower, and energy outweigh any benefit. Recycling is usually a feel good thing with a net financial loss.

The few exceptions are aluminum can, scrap steel, etc., but paper, plastic, and glass are dead end roads. Yes, I am an expert in this category.
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robcovol said:

I forgot to mention in my original post I sent an email inquiring about this to President Welsh two weeks ago. I'm still waiting for a reply.
I hope you are kidding.
maroon barchetta
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Stupe said:

robcovol said:

I forgot to mention in my original post I sent an email inquiring about this to President Welsh two weeks ago. I'm still waiting for a reply.
I hope you are kidding.


Yeah. This is an odd one to take that far up the chain. What, he didn't have email addresses for Sharp, the Board of Regents, and Governor Abbot?
techno-ag
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legalbird said:

If recycling worked, you would see businesses everywhere doing it.

ONCE a year, you will see TREX doing a recycle campaign. If profitable, they would do it everyday. The fuel, manpower, and energy outweigh any benefit. Recycling is usually a feel good thing with a net financial loss.

The few exceptions are aluminum can, scrap steel, etc., but paper, plastic, and glass are dead end roads. Yes, I am an expert in this category.

Thanks for your contributions.

Yeah everything I've heard and read indicates most stuff put in recycle bins ends up in landfills. A recent search reconfirmed this. I was wondering if anyone had any definitive proof that the recycling efforts on campus don't end up with the same fate.
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FlyRod said:

maroon barchetta said:

robcovol said:

Thanks for the update. They used to have a long uncovered dumpster which is not there anymore. There is also a sign that says open from 8-12. It used to be open from 7.00 to 3.30.


I'm guessing they got tired of people putting non-recyclable items in there, using instead as a way for getting of old toilets and mattresses and box springs and furniture without having to go to the landfill.

I saw all kinds of stuff there on weekends or Monday mornings.



Yeah that's pretty awful. I guess enough folks bought the myth that the stuff goes into a landfill that they started using it as a trash dump off. Sad.


Myth?
PS3D
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Koko Chingo said:

Pickup is every 2 weeks which is ok for normal use. For me I got patio furniture and have a ton of cardboard that won't all fit even if I cut it down
Hot take--if the City is trying to make it hard to recycle stuff by closing recycling centers and making it more inconvenient, maybe it's a signal you should just put it out as bulk trash.
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techno-ag said:

legalbird said:

If recycling worked, you would see businesses everywhere doing it.

ONCE a year, you will see TREX doing a recycle campaign. If profitable, they would do it everyday. The fuel, manpower, and energy outweigh any benefit. Recycling is usually a feel good thing with a net financial loss.

The few exceptions are aluminum can, scrap steel, etc., but paper, plastic, and glass are dead end roads. Yes, I am an expert in this category.

Thanks for your contributions.

Yeah everything I've heard and read indicates most stuff put in recycle bins ends up in landfills. A recent search reconfirmed this. I was wondering if anyone had any definitive proof that the recycling efforts on campus don't end up with the same fate.
yep - even Austin sends their recyclables to San Antonio to get "sorted out"....which basically means thrown in with the rest.
legalbird
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Side note on the recycling clothes metal boxes you see in parking lots around town. The owners of the boxes, that you see in town, are in Austin and Houston. There is one small operation locally that has a few donation boxes, but the truck takes 98% of it to Austin to get processed. All of this is sold by the pound. The buyers will fill a container and have it shipped to the buyers. These boxes usually name some charity which gets a nominal check quarterly or annually.

The processing centers are usually about 50,000+ sq ft with many employees. The processing centers have buyers from Costa Rica, Guatemala, Honduras, and the like. Mexico has odd laws, so literally nothing is shipped to Mexico. The buyers only buy the graded clothes, and they buy for shops in Latin America. The trash, worn out clothes and shoes, go straight to a dumpster, and there is no value, no recycling, nothing. Winter clothing and plus size clothing usually gets thrown away. Maybe 40% of the donated items are suitable for resale.
trouble
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PS3D said:

Can't you just put recyclables out in the bin, or am I missing something here?


Gotta pay for it in Bryan. I'm not willing to do that so mine goes out for bulk trash instead. We try hard to be a low waste household though.
FlyRod
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jac4 said:

FlyRod said:

maroon barchetta said:

robcovol said:

Thanks for the update. They used to have a long uncovered dumpster which is not there anymore. There is also a sign that says open from 8-12. It used to be open from 7.00 to 3.30.


I'm guessing they got tired of people putting non-recyclable items in there, using instead as a way for getting of old toilets and mattresses and box springs and furniture without having to go to the landfill.

I saw all kinds of stuff there on weekends or Monday mornings.



Yeah that's pretty awful. I guess enough folks bought the myth that the stuff goes into a landfill that they started using it as a trash dump off. Sad.


Myth?


Kind of, yeah. Some stuff ends up there, not all. Specifically plastics. It's a big problem. Because landfills are not the long term solution either.
Smeghead4761
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FlyRod said:

jac4 said:

FlyRod said:

maroon barchetta said:

robcovol said:

Thanks for the update. They used to have a long uncovered dumpster which is not there anymore. There is also a sign that says open from 8-12. It used to be open from 7.00 to 3.30.


I'm guessing they got tired of people putting non-recyclable items in there, using instead as a way for getting of old toilets and mattresses and box springs and furniture without having to go to the landfill.

I saw all kinds of stuff there on weekends or Monday mornings.



Yeah that's pretty awful. I guess enough folks bought the myth that the stuff goes into a landfill that they started using it as a trash dump off. Sad.


Myth?


Kind of, yeah. Some stuff ends up there, not all. Specifically plastics. It's a big problem. Because landfills are not the long term solution either.
The economics on recycling plastics just don't work. There are so many different types and colors, so sorting is a huge pain, and that doesn't even get into cleaning if that's needed. So it costs significantly more to recycle plastic than to just make more. Even glass is tough, in terms of economics. I remember when I lived in Olympia, you had to sort your glass recycling by color. Glass is a lot easier to sort than plastics, since there's only clear, brown, and green, but when the bottles and jars break and the shards get all mixed up, it becomes a pain.
The other thing that has really messed up the economic side of recycling is that so many places have made it mandatory that the market for material is glutted. Does anyone else here remember having newspaper drives as fundraisers? Mandatory recycling killed those, by glutting the market with used newspaper, even before the internet largely killed the daily paper.
At this point, the only material where the economics work for recycling is metals, which is why there are still scrap metal places like Bryan Iron and Metal, This is especially true for metals like aluminum and copper. I recall reading somewhere that some extremely high percentage of all the aluminum ever smelted is still in circulation. (Which led me to wonder how much of the portion that's lost is composed of WWII planes that were destroyed/shot down/crashed and never recovered.)
techno-ag
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Thanks for that thoughtful response. I always wonder when walking by recycling receptacles if there's any real point and they're simply taking stuff to the landfill. If so, I suppose it makes people feel good to deposit trash there instead of the trash can.
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MeKnowNot
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In College Station, you are obligated to pay for City mandated recycling.

In the City of Bryan, you have the choice to pay for a recycling contractor if you so choose.

City of Bryan sanitation rates are ~$13/month and have decreased in recent years. College Station sanitation rates have increased and are currently ~$20/month and going up. In a few years, the sanitation fee in College Station will be 2x the City of Bryan.

Both Cities use the Twin Oaks Landfill for disposal that currently charges the Cities $0 for disposal.








maroon barchetta
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This is an example of why we can't have nice things.

It's probable that this would have ended up in the recycling area on Adriance if the gates had been open. People dumped stuff like this there in the past.

Now someone with the University has to pull this out of there and haul it away because the previous owner was too lazy to take it to Twin Oaks or ask Habitat Restore to come get it, or list on Marketplace for some Chilifest person to take it off their hands.

And no, they can't just pick the dumpster up with the arms on the front of the truck and dump it into the top. The truck and compactor aren't designed to handle couches or sleeper sofas.

TyHolden
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that would be a nice couch to burn at chili fest. wasted opportunity. that couch had a chance to be great.
FlyRod
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Cheap option : just don't buy so much crap?
13B
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maroon barchetta said:

This is an example of why we can't have nice things.

It's probable that this would have ended up in the recycling area on Adriance if the gates had been open. People dumped stuff like this there in the past.

Now someone with the University has to pull this out of there and haul it away because the previous owner was too lazy to take it to Twin Oaks or ask Habitat Restore to come get it, or list on Marketplace for some Chilifest person to take it off their hands.

And no, they can't just pick the dumpster up with the arms on the front of the truck and dump it into the top. The truck and compactor aren't designed to handle couches or sleeper sofas.


All they needed to do is set it out for bulk pick up (at least in Bryan).
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