#Breaking: 2 dead, 3 injured in Deep Ellum shooting, Dallas police say https://t.co/Kde5c7N79b
— Dallas Morning News (@dallasnews) May 13, 2022
Seems to be par for the course sadly these days in that area. No clue how to solve this problem
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Another Deep Ellum Shooting. Smh
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Seems to be par for the course sadly these days in that area. No clue how to solve this problem
Seems like a nice area of town.
I went to a concert down there at Trees a couple Saturdays ago and by the time I got out and was walking back to my car it was about 1 AM and I was pretty surprised just how sketchy everything around me was. There was a heavy police presence down there, thankfully, but based on what I was seeing and hearing this headline does not come as a shock. Not good.
Deep Ellum's future could be interesting. In its previous bust cycles, I feel like people just vacated the area and businesses closed. But there has been so much money invested in Deep Ellum in recent years that I don't see that happening this time. My guess is that the city and developers will do something to get things under control.
There are also a lot more people who live in DE than in the past. Having actual residents in the neighborhood will keep the businesses going so I don't expect "bust" cycles like we have seen previously either.
It actually is. Its probably my favorite part of DallasLSB_2002 said:
Seems like a nice area of town.
Deep ellum is amazing during the day…its just once the sun goes down, its time to get tf out
double aught said:
Deep Ellum's future could be interesting. In its previous bust cycles, I feel like people just vacated the area and businesses closed. But there has been so much money invested in Deep Ellum in recent years that I don't see that happening this time. My guess is that the city and developers will do something to get things under control.
This isn't a new problem, and the city has done nothing so far, not sure I would bet on anything changing soon other than people not going down there. It's basically the ghetto after 9 or 10 pm. Street brawls and shootings are normal at this point.
Deep Ellum is the hood in the morning, too. I frequently ride my bike through it on the weekends and the streets are crawling with homeless and unpleasant looking people.
Deep Ellum should be enjoyed during the hours of 11am-7pm only. It's unsafe otherwise, and I don't know how the city fixes that, short of physically removing homeless people, which they refuse to do. There are big homeless camps all over that area, especially underneath I-30.
Deep Ellum should be enjoyed during the hours of 11am-7pm only. It's unsafe otherwise, and I don't know how the city fixes that, short of physically removing homeless people, which they refuse to do. There are big homeless camps all over that area, especially underneath I-30.
DeLaHonta said:
Deep Ellum is the hood in the morning, too. I frequently ride my bike through it on the weekends and the streets are crawling with homeless and unpleasant looking people.
Deep Ellum should be enjoyed during the hours of 11am-7pm only. It's unsafe otherwise, and I don't know how the city fixes that, short of physically removing homeless people, which they refuse to do. There are big homeless camps all over that area, especially underneath I-30.
I think all of these shootings have been after 1 or 2 in the morning. Deep Ellum still is pretty decent there's a few hip-hop clubs that need to be removed. To your problem
Just need all the animals to migrate to lower Greenville or uptown. That's how it's worked in the past
Teacher_Ag said:
Agree. There needs to be another neighborhood with some bars / venues that are for nerds, hipsters, and adults with careers. I'm not trying to feel like I'm playing GTA San Andreas just because I wanted to see an indie band from the UK that I like and they were booked at Trees.
Bishop Arts District fits that description pretty well. I've never felt unsafe in that area
Over the 20+ years I have lived in DFW it seems like DE and Lower Greenville continuously cycle in and out of crime waves. Uptown is starting to feel that way as well.
FW's West 7th is also heading in this direction; all of the restaurants and retail are closing down leaving a bar district.
FW's West 7th is also heading in this direction; all of the restaurants and retail are closing down leaving a bar district.
Neighborhood areas should make it especially tough to get special use permits that's what Greenville Avenue did the cleanup I don't think a bar can stay open past 11 or 12. Deep Ellum is a little different due to the live music venues and they need to stay open late but there are certain types of bars and clubs that should not be given a special use permit if it all possible
The Crockett Row/W 7th is a little different, because a good amount of those are from a combination of covid and landlords raising rents exorbitantlyAg CPA said:
Over the 20+ years I have lived in DFW it seems like DE and Lower Greenville continuously cycle in and out of crime waves. Uptown is starting to feel that way as well.
FW's West 7th is also heading in this direction; all of the restaurants and retail are closing down leaving a bar district.
It's definitely shifted greatly over to ******y bars/clubs, and its got a bit of that Dirty 6th st vibe after midnight on weekends. Not in a good way
mncag said:
Neighborhood areas should make it especially tough to get special use permits that's what Greenville Avenue did the cleanup I don't think a bar can stay open past 11 or 12. Deep Ellum is a little different due to the live music venues and they need to stay open late but there are certain types of bars and clubs that should not be given a special use permit if it all possible
I think Uptown has taken Lower Greenville's place in the rotation. The permitting stuff is probably a big part of why. Once the shadiness was under control the surrounding neighborhoods got a lot richer and the clientele changed.
Honestly I don't think there's a lot of demand for bars to stay open until 2 on Lower Greenville. Feels much more like a neighborhood hangout area than a destination to party these days.
That's called Austin.Teacher_Ag said:
Agree. There needs to be another neighborhood with some bars / venues that are for nerds, hipsters, and adults with careers. I'm not trying to feel like I'm playing GTA San Andreas just because I wanted to see an indie band from the UK that I like and they were booked at Trees.
Couldn't pay me to live in Austin. I just want bands I like not to play in Deep Ellum since its gotten so unsafe late on weekend nights.
Looks like T-Pain is out on DE as well:
https://www.wfaa.com/article/entertainment/music/dallas-t-pain-show-moved-factory-texas-trust-cu-theatre/287-53627444-9136-4546-baeb-a2b2eb3c0f49
https://www.wfaa.com/article/entertainment/music/dallas-t-pain-show-moved-factory-texas-trust-cu-theatre/287-53627444-9136-4546-baeb-a2b2eb3c0f49
This is what happens when south Dallas invades a part of the city nightlife. Same stuff happened in uptown where for years there was no crime and then it was invaded. Same thing happend to lower Greenville and when Lovers and Greenville had some cool places.
Looking for white women!
At least there's always McKinney Ave; as good of a mix of great bars + a-list talent as anywhere in the US of A
(At least that's what I'd be saying if it were still 2011….shoutout to fellow Ags whose 20s coincided with peak uptown )
(At least that's what I'd be saying if it were still 2011….shoutout to fellow Ags whose 20s coincided with peak uptown )
Wrong thread guys, sorry
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