Jock 07 said:
I wonder what ol ken lay is up to nowadays.
He's living in the Andes Mountains. He never passed away. Enron better bring back Lou Pai. He's on Mount Rushmore of Houston OGs.Jock 07 said:
I wonder what ol ken lay is up to nowadays.
lb sand said:
Chilling on a beach in Bolivia sipping on Pisco sours.
Ragoo said:
Enron never left. The actual legit business is EOG.
E&P was never a huge part of Enron. Mark Papa took those assets and dived headfirst into the fracking world. The rest is history.AgEng06 said:Ragoo said:
Enron never left. The actual legit business is EOG.
Right. As I understand it, EOG was the real O&G arm that split off prior to Enron becoming more of an investment-type firm (and the leading to all of the fraud).
BCG Disciple said:
Not sure if this is good or bad for the value of my belt buckle.
Diggity said:E&P was never a huge part of Enron. Mark Papa took those assets and dived headfirst into the fracking world. The rest is history.AgEng06 said:Ragoo said:
Enron never left. The actual legit business is EOG.
Right. As I understand it, EOG was the real O&G arm that split off prior to Enron becoming more of an investment-type firm (and the leading to all of the fraud).
They were a pipeline company at their heart. The bigger crime was Ken letting Rich Kinder have all their pipeline assets. Enron was a pipeline company at heart but Jeff didn't like the slow growth prospects of the business (i.e. lack of ability to manipulate) so he cast it aside.
Same with Dana Mead at Tenneco. Why hang on to a boring regulated pipeline business? Much more exciting to destroy the whole company by selling off the pieces.Diggity said:
The bigger crime was Ken letting Rich Kinder have all their pipeline assets. Enron was a pipeline company at heart but Jeff didn't like the slow growth prospects of the business (i.e. lack of ability to manipulate) so he cast it aside.
No, they got rid of EOG long before the collapse. The real money maker was the natural gas business. They were the market maker in most physical markets. That part got sold to one of the big houses, can't remember which one.Ragoo said:
Enron never left. The actual legit business is EOG.
exactly. Ken and his McKinsey buddy Skilling wanted returns on minimal capital to get a 'growth' stock valuation. Pipeline stock didn't appreciate very fast.Diggity said:E&P was never a huge part of Enron. Mark Papa took those assets and dived headfirst into the fracking world. The rest is history.AgEng06 said:Ragoo said:
Enron never left. The actual legit business is EOG.
Right. As I understand it, EOG was the real O&G arm that split off prior to Enron becoming more of an investment-type firm (and the leading to all of the fraud).
The bigger crime was Ken letting Rich Kinder have all their pipeline assets. Enron was a pipeline company at heart but Jeff didn't like the slow growth prospects of the business (i.e. lack of ability to manipulate) so he cast it aside.
The Transwestern interstate pipeline was sold to Southern and then later to Energy Transfer. Can't remember who initially bought the NNG line, but Berkshire owns it now.bularry said:No, they got rid of EOG long before the collapse. The real money maker was the natural gas business. They were the market maker in most physical markets. That part got sold to one of the big houses, can't remember which one.Ragoo said:
Enron never left. The actual legit business is EOG.