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Texaggie7nine
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4:16p, 3/6/25
https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/george-r-brown-convention-center-expansion-renderings-polk-street/285-2127e8d1-eda7-467e-9735-404a772ad9bb






Polk st gone.
Looks like the parking garage for Hilton Americas is gone.
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Martin Q. Blank
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4:28p, 3/6/25
Is that 59...underground??
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4:53p, 3/6/25
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can we get some carpeting for the concrete floor?
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4:57p, 3/6/25
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https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2025/03/06/how-houston-plans-to-reinvent-george-r-brown-convention-center-eado/
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The project is supported by Senate Bill 1057, which allows Houston to access the state's portion of incremental hotel occupancy tax in the area, ensuring funding without burdening local taxpayers.
So that's good I guess.

Real nice bum shelter the state will be building for Houston.
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In reply to Martin Q. Blank • 5:03p, 3/6/25
Martin Q. Blank said:
Is that 59...underground??
59 and 45 if that 45 redirect plan is still in the works.
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In reply to Texaggie7nine • 5:29p, 3/6/25
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Texaggie7nine said:
Martin Q. Blank said:
Is that 59...underground??
59 and 45 if that 45 redirect plan is still in the works.
Yup, I believe its getting started this year.
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In reply to Martin Q. Blank • 6:38p, 3/6/25
Martin Q. Blank said:
Is that 59...underground??


Where have you been? The first 3D video renderings of the concept plans for UG 59/45 came out in like 2014. The question was what to do with the pierce elevated and how long until funding would be available.

They say 10 years so I'll bet 17 until it's 100% completely done. If midtown wasn't already dead and gone it def will not be recovering until it's time to "regentrify" when my 4 year old gets out of TAMU in 2043.

I look forward to telling her how dad used to hit the bars in midtown and Washington corridor "the first time it was cool" in 2012-2017 time frame
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7:28p, 3/6/25
How many homeless fentanyl zombies can fit in an underground freeway? Finna find out y'all
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8:54p, 3/6/25
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The underground 59 reminds me of Boston's Big Dig

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In reply to Martin Q. Blank • 9:25p, 3/6/25
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Martin Q. Blank said:
Is that 59...underground water??
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In reply to Ryan the Temp • 11:05p, 3/6/25
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This.
First rain it's going to be a cesspool.
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6:08a, 3/7/25
RIP Cruise boat
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6:11a, 3/7/25
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Can't wait for the construction and flooding Mensas to chime in!
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BuT bElOw GrAdE fReEwAyS aCt As A dEtEnTiOn PoNd DuRiNg FlOoDs, ThAt's WhAt It Is SuPpOsEd To Do, It's A fEaTuRe NoT a BuG
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In reply to Texaggie7nine • 8:21a, 3/7/25
The upside is this should be relatively quick and cheap and cause minimal disruption!
Welcome to the China Club

"Here's the pitch...POPPED it up! Oh man, that wouldn't be a home run in a phone booth."
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9:26a, 3/7/25
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The freeway flooding has never been a problem for me. I worry about my house flooding.
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In reply to Quad Dog • 9:35a, 3/7/25
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SImilar, but probably more closer in scope to Spur 366 through Dallas. They put about 3 blocks of the freeway under ground level to have a park on top of the freeway and better pedestrian access. It definitely felt safer walking over a freeway at night when I went for a Stars game than walking under one.
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In reply to JJxvi • 9:50a, 3/7/25
JJxvi said:
The freeway flooding has never been a problem for me. I worry about my house flooding.
Ya, I feel like having underground freeways like that just gives more drainage options to keep water away from buildings. It will also be a nice little Darwinian filter.
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9:50a, 3/7/25
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the freeways flooding and directing water away from businesses and houses isn't really a bad thing if it's designed that way. if people are too stupid to not drive into water, that's on them.
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In reply to Furlock Bones • 9:53a, 3/7/25
Jinx! Buy me some coke.
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9:56a, 3/7/25
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Regarding the linked news story, I like how this project is getting a bunch of blowback and protests about Polk St when its the highway project that is doing that
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In reply to JJxvi • 10:00a, 3/7/25
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Haha yup, the only thing this GRB expansion is doing is taking away a hotel parking garage and The Rustic, and I wouldn't be shocked if The Rustic was looking for an out since their location puts them at the end of a future dead end street next to a giant decade long construction project.
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In reply to JJxvi • 10:01a, 3/7/25
From the looks of the image, it seems they could put a bridge over the freeway for Polk like they have one for Leeland, but the new plans have park area where Polk st is near Toyota Center.
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In reply to Texaggie7nine • 10:28a, 3/7/25
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Texaggie7nine said:
From the looks of the image, it seems they could put a bridge over the freeway for Polk like they have one for Leeland, but the new plans have park area where Polk st is near Toyota Center.
https://www.txdot.gov/content/dam/project-sites/nhhip/docs/nhhip-segment-3-i-45-rollplot-ph-2-3.pdf

The I-45 requires connections and flyovers of the lanes from underground over the I-69 northbound lanes and continuing on to the Gulf Freeway and vice versa. You can see from this schematic that the I-45 lanes are basically at current ground grade level at Polk Street (see the gridlined section in middle bottom that is scaled to the aerial image above it). No bridge is possible at Polk.

https://www.txdot.gov/content/dam/project-sites/nhhip/docs/nhhip-segment-3-i-45-rollplot-ph-2-3.pdf
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10:36a, 3/7/25
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Also the bridge you refer to at Leeland does go over I-69, but it runs underneath I-45. Basically I-45 will be an overpass at Leeland, and an underpass at Lamar. Polk in the middle will be barely above freeway lane level as it transitions into and out of the underground segments. Houston First's rendering doesn't accurately reflect what the freeway lanes are doing. The middle lanes should be rising and going over Leeland.
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In reply to Charlie Murphy • 11:13a, 3/7/25
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Charlie Murphy said:
The upside is this should be relatively quick and cheap and cause minimal disruption!
Timeless. Just like Gulf Freeway construction.

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6:29p, 3/11/25
this is my official position to keep the boat. no boring modern minimalist bullsh.
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this was supposedly the inspiration for the design of GRB.



https://blog.artsper.com/en/a-closer-look/five-facts-about-the-construction-of-the-pompidou-centre/

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6:08a, 3/12/25
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Only hope when it s done they slap She Jacks and Sly Turners name on for all they did for our great city ,
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In reply to Quad Dog • 10:21a, 3/12/25
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Quad Dog said:
The underground 59 reminds me of Boston's Big Dig

A bunch of government types got rich off of that deal...a bunch of graft and corruption and it took way longer than it should have. But hey, it's nice now.
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In reply to BohunkAg • 11:31a, 3/12/25
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Add in the settlement to the family of the person who died when a ceiling panel fell on their car.
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In reply to cajunaggie08 • 1:36p, 3/12/25
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cajunaggie08 said:
Texaggie7nine said:
Martin Q. Blank said:
Is that 59...underground??
59 and 45 if that 45 redirect plan is still in the works.
Yup, I believe its getting started this year.
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