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Aggie1
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AISD must be the most head-stuck-in-the-sand school district on the planet.

At one time Amarillo was the capitol city of the Panhandle and Amarillo High was one of the preeminent high flying schools in the entire state and has multiple trophies to prove it - most from a long time ago...

Then, someone decided that 1200-1500 kids in a single public high school was big enough. So, starting in the 1950's, Amarillo AISD eventually divided into AHS, Palo Duro, Tascosa, and Caprock High Schools. Carver was assimilated into Tascosa and Palo Duro with its closure during the desegregation era of the 1960's.
All of these high schools were - at the time - part of the highest level of competition - AAAA (4A) - the state's largest designation at the time.

Then, mysteriously, Elizabeth Nixon High and Amarillo High (both in the declining downtown area of South Polk Street and essentially cut off by the "new" E-Way to Canyon) burned to the ground. The city fathers - most of whom were AISD alums, decided to move from the declining mid-town area to the most affluent SW Amarillo suburb area off Bell Street.

And as a result - gave up most of their previous area of Amarillo - now in decline - to Caprock, Palo Duro, and Tascosa - for them to deal with. AHS, of course, kept the more affluent areas for themselves.

Then, some amazing things happeneded.
Palo Duro, which originally had no geographic limits to its opportunity for growth in N-NE Amarillo (all the way to the Canadian and almost to Claude) suddenly found itself hemmed in by the new River Road High School and Highland Park High School. Nearby Catholic Price College HS closed due to location and inattendance.
Tascosa found itself limited by Bushland, and
Amarillo High found itself hemmed by CanyonISD - a city whose metro area is 15 miles away.
Only Caprock appears to have escaped these limits (Claude?, Canyon?) but still had to absorb much of the old AHS deteriorated downtown areas.

And, as a result - as most high schools in the state grew and (some) grew to ridiculous populations of 6,000+ (such as Judson, Plano, etc) the AISD high schools were essentially stymied and continued to be limited in their growth. And when the high school competitive enrollment limits elsewhere across the state started climbing into AAAAA (5A), and now AAAAAA (6A) the AISD schools - that used to be in the same district and competitive with one another - now find themselves having to travel half way across the state to find conference/district opponents in the same size/category - and increased expenses, etc., as a result.

In densely populated areas near large cities, these redistricting efforts are not nearly so impactive as now in Amarillo - now having to travel as far away as Wichita Falls, Fort Worth, Abilene, Midland-Odessa, etc for DISTRICT games, where used to be it was Lubbock, Borger and Pampa for conference - and that was as far as was required.

Used to be AISD schools traveled to these far away areas for maybe a single non-conference game... And now, to read about the complaints regarding long distance travel to a district game is somewhat comical, because in reality the AISD did it to themselves...

Now, to read about the change in student make-up with "foreigners" and "immigrants" and "relocated by the government to local area", etc., and not being able to keep up with their "needs" is frightening.

I have talked to many people who tell me that teachers at Tascosa, Palo Duro and Caprock get a premium because of poor test scores, etc.

Of course entitled AHS is still above all that, but are still getting further and further behind from a statewide competition and "presence" point of view.

Granted, when Amarillo AFB closed in 1968, the population in Amarillo plunged nearly 20,000 people - and Lubbock became the population leader with Reese AFB and TTech. This is also a point of acerbic discussion for OLD Amarillo residents, but beside the point of the AISD discussion here.

I realize that "growth" - especially in a school - is not necessarily all "good", and perhaps a public High School can be dealt with administratively at a smaller scale, but it seems to me AISD has not looked beyond its borders in many years and now finds itself not only land locked, but struggling to deal with issues that, though statewide, are proving difficult to resolve.




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BrazosBendHorn
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Then, mysteriously, Elizabeth Nixon High and Amarillo High (both in the declining downtown area of South Polk Street and essentially cut off by the "new" E-Way to Canyon) burned to the ground. The city fathers - most of whom were AISD alums, decided to move from the declining mid-town area to the most affluent SW Amarillo suburb area off Bell Street.


Friend of mine who was AHS Class of '76 (the "new" AHS off of Bell Street) told me back in the day that the new high school on Bell was originally going to be Washington High School (or some such) but when the original AHS burned down, the AHS name & traditions were quickly transferred to the new school ... whether that's true or scuttlebutt, I wouldn't know ... but it wouldn't surprise me if it were true ...

FWIW, Randall HS should have been constructed a decade earlier than it was because the CHS campus was getting a bit overcrowded (thanks to an influx of kids who resided a lot closer to Amarillo than Canyon, starting around 1970 or so); the CHS campus that had a student body of about 400 when my sister attended in the mid-60s had grown to 750 by the mid-1970s when I was there. There was a bond election for a new HS in '74 or '75, but the good folks of Canyon voted it down ... "why should we be taxed to educate Amarillo kids?" ... I'm glad they finally wised up ...

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Good ol' Canyon High, Class of 77
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Don't hate us because we always win.


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eric76
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And, as a result - as most high schools in the state grew and grew to ridiculous populations of 6,000+
For many years, I thought that most high schools in Texas were substantially smaller than 6,000 or more students. Most of these small towns must be growing faster than I thought.
BrazosBendHorn
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According to this site, the largest HS in Texas by enrollment is Plano East at about 6,000. Most of the other 20 biggest schools listed here range from 3,600 to 4,000 ...

FWIW, down here on the Gulf Coast, the high schools in Cypress-Fairbanks ISD generally top out at 3,600 ... (then they build another HS; probably continue until the bump up against Katy ISD, which is also seeing phenomenal growth) ...

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Aggie1
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What is accurate today is not reflective of many high schools now split over the past 20 years such as Converse Judson.

Regardless, AISD has a different policy and now the Amarillo schools are in a lower category for competition... and much of the competition is a loooong way off....
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I'm confused. Are you wishing that Amarillo had one big huge high school?

If so, wouldn't that mean that they'd have to travel even further for athletic competitions? Like to Ft. Worth, Dallas, San Antone, Houston.....?
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No, I'm saying the shortsighted AISD allowed the local high schools to be hemmed in by other districts and now the Amarillo schools have no choice but to stagnate at the level they are at while the conference levels grow larger statewide... Then, the Amarillo schools lament having to travel much longer distances than they used to because the districts are so far flung. At one time the Amarilo schools all played each other and the Lubbock schools (+Plainview, Pampa, Borger. Etc) and it was a great closeby rivalry.
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I don't think athletic districting should be the driving force behind any decisions a school district makes . Besides adding RR and HP would be a drain on the rest of the city dollars
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Aggie1, if the Amarillo ISD had years ago somehow forced Canyon, River Road, Highland Park, etc. to give up their school districts, the results would have been the same: A huge Amarillo ISD, with a mega-high school. The only place to go to play district games would be the metroplex, Austin, Houston, etc.

And am I missing something? Did Amarillo ISD cede the surrounding school districts at some point? I'm thinking they had always been ISDs, and Amarillo just grew out to meet them.

At the turn of the last century, no one would have dreamed of the city of Amarillo nearly touching Canyon. Nor would they have dreamed it would be practical to have children from one town go to one 12 miles away for school. In 1914, that was maybe a once-a-week trip to market. No way could they expected children to travel that far to school.

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And am I missing something? Did Amarillo ISD cede the surrounding school districts at some point?


Can't speak for the other ISDs, but I would assume that Canyon ISD at some point claimed practically all of Randall County due to its central location and being the only sizable town in the County (no offense to Umbarger, Cleta, and Ogg).

Seems to figure that Amarillo would get blocked by CISD right away since Amarillo is oddly positioned on the Potter/Randall line.
BrazosBendHorn
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... no one would have dreamed of the city of Amarillo nearly touching Canyon. Nor would they have dreamed it would be practical to have children from one town go to one 12 miles away for school.


Nor would they have dreamed that developers of residential subdivisions in Amarillo would be touting their location in the Canyon ISD as a selling point ...
CanyonAg77
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Don't forget that part of Happy that's in Randall County.

I wonder if Amarillo was not interested in the outlying areas due to lack of students/tax base. One hundred years ago, there were few people in the country, and little to tax. My guess is that Amarillo wanted downtown with all the businesses and big houses to tax.

Unfortunately for them, the big industries ended up in districts like Highland Park (Tyson, Asarco) and the big houses ended up in Canyon ISD...Bushland, etc.
BrazosBendHorn
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CanyonAg77: what I meant to convey was that Amarillo is odd in that it's a county seat that's situated on a county line, rather than being near the geographical center of its county (as the majority of Texas county seats are) ...

As for Happy, it looks as though its intrusion into Randall County is limited to Northern Street ...
CanyonAg77
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Some of the Happy ISD goes into Randall County.

And there was never going to be a town in the center of Potter county. For one thing, it'd be in the middle of the Canadian River. For another, none of the ranches were going to give up that land.

Which brings up a side point. Today, the breaks and the canyons are the desirable areas. But notice how none of the early towns were platted in any pretty areas? The Canadian River, the Tierra Blanca, the Palo Duro, Yellowhouse Canyon in Lubbock, etc. etc. I can only think of old Tascosa as being a town founded in the breaks, rather than the plains.

I guess flat land was more desired, or easier to build on back in the day. Perhaps floods were more frequent.
Aggie1
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Interesting point. I think it had to do with railroad right of way and ease of herding cattle without a lot of hindrance.
It is my understanding that "Wild Horse Lake" was a destination site for herds moving north from Mexico as well as water supply for steam locomotives.
It is now all dried up and unrecognizable as ever being a lake best I can tell.
Old Tascosa was, as I understand it, a place where the bad guys pushed out of Oklahoma, etc., went to hide out somewhere between Kansas and Tucson...
I recall when Palisades was a place to find a break in the Praries - then Tanglewood was developed (and Amarillo wastewater is dumped to keep the water level up...), and now Timbercreek Canyon is the place to buy...
Before the E-way and when WT Stadium was the highlight of the trip from Amarillo to Canyon, the "breaks" around the area were little developed. As I recall Dory Funk had a nice place down by Canyon that a lot of people enjoyed visiting...
If it were not for Camp Don Harrington, many of us would not know much except prairie and bear grass with the exception of the Canadian (long before Meredith) because most of the land was (still is??) owned by big ranches that are only recently being dismantled.
While most Amarillo residents probably don't think much of "Pleasant Valley" and "River Road", during the 40's and 50's it was an area with "hills and dales" and easy to get to Amarillo AFB and PanTex, etc., and was a desirable location for working families to live. Thompson Park was one of the few areas with "shade" and a place to roam around a bit. I'm talking about pre-Hamlet. Not very many been around that long...

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I don't have a dog in this fight, but OP was one of the better "things that grind my gears" rants I've seen in awhile
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as most high schools in the state grew and grew to ridiculous populations of 6,000+


Yeah I don't think so








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Aggie1
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alright, alright - I changed it to "some" - but the point remains that AISD is now geographically bound - in what should be wide open country - and cannot keep up with the leading levels in the state that have Amarillo schools have always been part of - and now the locals have to travel several hundred miles to find a district opponent.
...and MANY people gripe about having to travel so far...
When it was one - maybe two games a year early in the season and non-conference it was a lark... As these distances are now for half the games played and often in early inclement fall weather it is a whole different ballgame. Lubbock schools were fun to play and kibbitz with - going further for several games - possibly in a snow/ice blue norther storm - is a drain...

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but the point remains that AISD is now geographically bound - in what should be wide open country - and cannot keep up with the leading levels in the state that have Amarillo schools have always been part of


When were the district lines drawn?

There are geographically bound districts all over the state that have dropped like a rock in classification and can't grow because, well, they're geographically bound

The previously unpopulated adjacent rural areas benefit with new housing and young people with kids, while the old urban districts just get older (the people and the houses) and are out of room to grow

The only thing setting Amarillo apart from the multitude of other deteriorating districts is that Amarillo is halfway to the North Pole and in the middle of nowhere, causing them to have to travel..














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The District lines are being redrawn by UIL every so often and every time another "A" is added and as schools get larger in population - most recently {again} in Feb 2014 - partly because there is no "B" anymore or 6-man ( what used to be B is now 1-A). True, eventually dynasties are broken up by districts adding additional High Schools. It happened to Amarillo and every other dynasty of the past (Judson, Plano, etc. - but they are still huge in population comparatively). But, still, the larger schools have a much greater population from which to choose to make up "high powered" teams of today. Amarillo High and Tascosa both have 2,200 students. Schools like Allen and Judson (now) both have more than 4,000 (at one time Judson had over 6,000 students - so did Plano before it was broken up - Allen will be next...). A distinct advantage for athletic competition.

When all of the Amarillo and Lubbock schools (+ Pampa, Borger, Plainview) were district 3-AAAA {with school populations under 1,500} and in the highest group available at the time it was a close knit grouping - kinda like family. Last year, as a result of the District lines being redrawn willy nilly every year or so the "Districts" were much more far flung as earlier described...
This year, the UIL tried to address this distance issue but still fall short in comparative school population sizes per "A" grouping. Even the "privates" want a designation now for their districts...

True, Hereford and Wolfforth Frenship and Dumas, etc., have grown and are now in larger districts than before as well... Wolfforth Frenship is a new kid on the block and tough! The Dumas Demons used to go to state nearly every year for many years in a row - at a lower "A" level...

To follow, as the "giant schools" downstate start driving as many as six "A's" in the upper bracket category for population (and some neighboring states even have 7...) there is additional layering going on to try to meet the needs based on school population.
Last year - before the most recent realignment the only Amarillo school that was in the highest category (but lower bracket) was Amarillo High. Now, after a lot of complaining, at least Both Amarillo High and Tascosa are now in the highest category - 6A, lower bracket. Palo Duro and Caprock are both now in 5-A - regardless, the local rivalries are busted up. Indeed, with all the upper and lower bracket posturing, I don't know why we don't have at least 10 levels of "A" just to truly even things up...
Maybe it's a "travel distance" nightmare for everyone then??

In fact, Texas even breaks up the 2-A through 6-A high and low (I and II - high and low brackets)... so there are really levels within a level. I'm not sure why, but I believe it's driven by population/size if not also geographic for greater playoff opportunities... Kinda the "Super Districts/Conferences" of Texas High School Football...

To follow, Yes, Amarillo - and Lubbock - are a long way from the main population centers but, when I was in HS here, Amarillo was the 10th largest city in the state... and all the high schools in Amarillo played all the high schools in Lubbock. Times have changed in that regard as well.

Now, why do I bring it up? Well, this is a "High Plains" board - including Amarillo - which is my "home of record"..., Lubbock and Wichita Falls (which also was a HUGE power at one time).

Because AISD has limited the size ANY Amarillo HS boundary is in, they will never be in the highest upper bracket division because each of the Amarillo HS's are hemmed in by other, newer school districts and will not ever meet the higher enrollment figures to be in the highest bracket...

Now,why does that matter? It really doesn't except that we know that when it comes time to recruit to the D-1 colleges, the larger schools - Plano, Allen, Southlake, Euless Trinity, Judson, etc., always seem to have the better players simply because they have more athletes from which to choose to make "select" teams - regardless of district.

There was a time when the Amarillo Golden Sandstorm (and Wichita Coyotes and Abilene Eagles and Odessa Permian, etc.), would make the other teams around the state shudder when they had to play them in football... Same for Palo Duro (and Pampa) in basketball.

Now, they are in a lower/smaller bracket level competition, and the grandeur involved in being the best as well as the biggest cannot happen again...

Thanks AISD.

Using the same logic - Let's assume for a minute that A&M was still 15-20,000 students and the SuperConferences of College Football were being formed (as they inevitably will...). I don't know if A&M would make the cut if they were on the bubble at 15-20K - or even have been invited to the SEC... But, the fact is they have 50,000+ kids and are in the SEC and have become a real player in the process. It's nice to be a playa.

Amarillo schools do not - and will not - ever have the grandeur and be trend setters of past generations now because they cannot grow larger as many of the downstate schools IMO...

Again, thanks AISD.

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