Did ASU leave their defense at home this past weekend?

i actually went to the game and can say that the defense was not the cause of the loss. The offense very rarely put them in good spots. About 3 scores can be placed soley on the defense just screwing up/being bad. When your offense gets a false start on EVERY set of downs in the first half, it adds up.

Also of note one of ASU's rushers had 8 rushes for 86 yards. And his TD came on an 87 yard run. Fun statistic.

I don't think Carr will be here in December.

And FWIW, I hope ACU goes all the way. Their problem seems to be a lack of depth (which is why they were wore down in the playoffs last year.)

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The last ACC football game I attended was in 1947 or 48. Quarterback was Charlie Morris, son of coach A.B.(Bugs) Morris ('23). Tonto Coleman was roaming the sideline.

ACC had a big old fullback named V.T. (Vitamin T) Smith who bulled through the line on one play and left a string of bruised and battered defenders over 70 or so yards of turf ... just ran flat over them like a hookin' bull.

I had to wait 30 years to see a run that could equal that for pure power running .... the "Tyler Rose" Earl Campbell did it at Kyle Field in about 1977.

I have been waiting 30 years since Campbell's run for something similar but nothing close yet, and probably never will be again.

Oh, and V.T. was an equally devastating linebacker for the Wildcats. Ask some of the old timers about V.T.

Out of curiosity, what graduating class were you at A&M, Fossil?

Mid-fifties. An older brother graduated from ACC in 1948.

Almost forgot. Fisher County supplied two legends in ACU football history: Alton Green from the Capitola community and Coach Garvin Beauchamp of Roby ... both in the early 50s era.

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My parents both graduated from McMurry late 40's/early 50's, Dad later coached at McMurry. There was no love lost between them & ACC.

I was at the game as well, and I have to say ASU's offense made Franchione look imaginative. The false starts were bad also. The ASU defense was selling out to stop Bernard Scott, which left wide receivers running free. The strength of a good balanced office--if you can stop one thing, generally opens up something else. Maybe one of these days the Ags will be able to do that.

FisherCoAg ... A Roby product by the name of Dwain Pyburn played football at McMurry 1952-56 to some fame. He later served as Chief of Police at Abilene for several years. A super good guy.

In high school Dwain was a hard-nosed tailback/linebacker. I watched some monumental collisions between Dwain and tough, red-headed kid from Snyder by the name of Grant Teaff, center/linebacker for the Tigers.

Edit: Oh, I almost forgot. Grant Teaff also played during the same period as Dwain and later coached at McMurry.

Good times, good connections.



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I was at the game as well, and I have to say ASU's offense made Franchione look imaginative.

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sadly sadly true. very vanilla by all definitions of the word.

#1 defense in the LSC.....bhwaaaaaaaaa!

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Billy Malone threw for 319 yards and five touchdowns, including four to Johnny Knox, as the No. 3-ranked Abilene Christian University Wildcats cruised past the Angelo State University Rams on Saturday, 51-7.

Knox, who set ACU and Lone Star Conference records with 17 touchdowns last season, tied ACU and LSC single-game records with his four touchdowns. The senior receiver had scoring catches of 59, 60, 47 and 29 yards. Knox also set a school single-game record with 232 receiving yards overall on six receptions during the game at Shotwell Stadium.

ACU running back Bernard Scott ran for 119 yards and a touchdown on 22 carries. The senior has rushed for 100 yards or more in 11 consecutive games, dating back to last season.

Overall, ACU amassed 478 yards against the No. 1 defense in the LSC.

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fossil
Dad was on the staff when Grant played, I think Wilford Moore was the HC then.

Any person who posts in this Forum and has any connection with ACU athletics should become familiar with this photo.



In front row center of this photo of the 1923 A&MC Baseball Team is Team Captain A.B.(Bugs) Morris. In the back row are such notables as E.King Gill and C.E. (Pat) Olsen. Bugs Morris that year was named All-SWC in baseball and football.

Immediately after graduation, Bugs was hired by a fledgling Abilene Christian College as Director of Athletics and of coach of athletic teams. Bugs set up ACC's athletic programs from scratch and served as coach/AD and other capacities for nearly 60 years. A man of decency, honor and integrity, Bugs Morris helped set the moral compass of all young men who were privileged to be selected for the programs he presided over.

Just editing to fix the photo. -staff

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There's a dorm on the ACU campus named for Morris. My son lived there for a couple of semesters. Morris was quite a guy.

Fossil, with your knowledge of the history of the area, did you ever have any contact with a former SWC official, Moose Stovall? Quite a character.

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Richard "Moose" Stovall

Stovall was born in Albany and starred on the Abilene High School football team in the 1930s, and Abilene Christian College football team in the early 1940s. Although he played several positions, he lined up most often as a linebacker.

He played with the Detroit Lions in 1947-48, and was the starting center in front of quarterback Sammy Baugh with the Washington Redskins in 1949 before returning to Abilene.

However, Stovall is remembered best for his work as a football official.

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If I recall correctly, after returning to Abilene in 1949 Moose signed on with the ACC athletic department as a football coach with Tonto Coleman. My high school football coaches '48-'52 were ACC grads and Moose would visit with them when he officiated our games occasionally. I never knew him personally ... but I can report that he was an imposing fellow to a bunch of 130 pound high schoolers. I was aware that he progressed rapidly in officiating business.

If you have lurked around this board for a while you know that I have a leaning toward Strange West Texas Connections. Yes, I have another that is typical of the kind of nice stories one can locate with a bit of personal observation over the years.

I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread that Garvin V. Beauchamp was a Roby High product who later played football and coached at ACC. Garvin's life deserves a longer look.

He graduated from Roby schools in 1937. He entered ACC that fall and graduated in 1941. While at ACC, besides excelling in all sports, he also was a campus leader in every other student activity. The college even invented a special honor to award Garvin upon graduation as Outstanding Graduate of the College, the first time it was ever awarded.

Garvin then served in the Navy during WWII and returned to ACC as assistant football coach in 1946, progressing to head coach in 1950. His first team was unbeaten and untied, the first in ACC history and the only team in the nation to set such a mark in 1950. His five seasons of coaching were all winning seasons for ACC.

He was then promoted to Dean of Students and in 1965 promoted to VP of the University. He retired in 1987. His was an enviable record for a kid coming out of a Class A high school.

Good story, but where is the Strange Connection? Get ready ....

Garvin was the 11th or 12th child born to Mr and Mrs Jasper Beauchamp. Garvin was born in 1920 at Post, Texas. If you have read page 15 of the Strange West Texas Connections you know the significance of that.

Jasper Beauchamp possessed skill in the most important technology of the period 1906-1920 ... he was a blacksmith. When Charley Post was making plans for the development of his new town of Post, the first specialists recruited were men who had the talent to keep his herd of Missouri Mules and the heavy supplies wagon moving. Jasper Beauchamp was involved in the early development of the Post experiment and did his job well.

Shortly after Garvin was born in 1920, Mr Beauchamp moved his family from Post to Roby where he set up a new blacksmith shop. Mr Beauchamp's shop was one block south of the red light on Hwy 70 in Roby and his friend, Gus Beddo, had a shop two blocks north of the red light on Hwy 70. Both shops had all the work they could handle and all they needed to raise good, honest, industrious families in a small town.

It was no surprise to long time residents of Roby that Garvin Beauchamp would do well at Abilene Christian College and perform as admirably as a community leader in Abilene.

Charley Post, of the Post Cereal fame, did well when he recruited Jasper Beauchamp to join him in West Texas.

Edit: Oh I almost forgot ... there was the inconvenience of the Great Depression that Garvin had to deal with in his growing up and college years.

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I did my undergrad at ACU (ACC then, of course)& masters at A&M. Beauchamp was dean of students while I was there. I had an interesting meeting with him my senior year. I managed to get a local Abilene business temporarily closed down by the fire department (don't ask) and for some strange reason Dean Beauchamp didn't think that reflected well on ACC. Can't imagine why. Let's just say it was one of the more uncomfortable few minutes of my life. Fortunately the "misunderstanding" was cleared up quickly, order was restored and I didn't have to make any more appearances in front of him. He was a good man, but not someone you particularly wanted to mess with.

Speaking of leaving defenses at home--pretty wild game at Shotwell Saturday.

bump.

shouldnt you be on rivalries whining about how bad your life sucks?

nah. my life is infinitely better these days.


tough loss.

I think ACU could have gone all the way, but NWMS just has that playoff experience.