Any new SUVs without the start stop?

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Yukon Cornelius
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Trying to find an suv and it seems they all have that feature.
aggiedata
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Don't believe the new GX does. I'll confirm when it comes in.
BlueHeeler
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I'm with you. Annoying stupidity. Everything we looked at had it.
Redstone
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5th Generation 4Runner will continue to have the best reputation, and this is yet another reason
GAC06
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EV's
aggie_wes
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I have a very simple defeater for GM vehicles that I would sell you for reasonably cheap. You take one nut off the battery and one plug, and that's it. Used on my 24 Sierra and worked like a champ.

It's This One
JSKolache
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They have that feature to meet stupid federal regulations. The only way to make suvs get 25 mpg per EPA regs is to shut the motor off at stoplights.
austinag1997
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JSKolache said:

They have that feature to meet stupid federal regulations. The only way to make suvs get 25 mpg per EPA regs is to shut the motor off at stoplights.


2 of our3 vehicles have a button to turn it off. Pretty easy. One you have to go through the monitor to turn off. Really pain in the rear. Need to find a better fix on that one. And on that one the front end automatically lowers at the stop phase. Really dumb.
FTAco07
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GX 550 is what you seek
lazuras_dc
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Fk having to push the button everytime you get in. I got a plug n play device for my explorer that works like a charm! Recently got FORscan to turn it off on the f150 as well. Best upgrades ive ever done to any vehicle!
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I'd research your options to defeat it for whatever suvs you are interested in buying. I know the new jeeps have after market modules that can deactivate it and for my Honda I was able to buy a decice that is wired between the button and the ecu that just sends the single like it was pushed each time I start the car so it defaults to off.
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I had a Mazda CX-50 as a rental this week and it did not appear to have it. If it did, at least it didn't kick in and piss me off. Seemed like a pretty solid no frills vehicle that didn't totally suck all around.
FIDO*98*
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Defeaters are around $200. I have one on my Acura and wife has one on her Yukon. Get the SUV you want. Cheap and easy fix
Sully
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Which one did you get? We have an MDX and I'd like to get this installed to have to stop pressing that button!
FIDO*98*
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https://www.drivechipauto.com/

It also lets me start in sport mode which is my preference for non-highway driving
gggmann
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I think the Porsche Macan and Cayenne are a one time push of a button to disable, at least that's how it works in their sports cars. Also, if you put it in sport or sport+ (need to have sport chrono package) it doesn't use auto start/stop.
aggiesundevil4
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I confirm my GX 550 I bought last year does not have the annoying auto off. It's glorious.
BlueSmoke
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Wife's Pallisade has it, but has a button to turn it off each time you start it up. Dumb feature, but at least you can temporarily disable.
Nobody cares. Work Harder
GentrysMillTX10
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My wife's 2023 expedition does not have it. It was a $50 option to delete start/stop on the build sheet
aggiedata
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Mas89
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GentrysMillTX10 said:

My wife's 2023 expedition does not have it. It was a $50 option to delete start/stop on the build sheet

Same on my 23 f150. Iirc, that's the last year the delete was available from the Ford factory due to the chip shortage then. I'll buy a new one when Ford offers the delete again.
Wife's 25 Escalade has the stupid button and we Hate the feature but with the extended warranty and reported 6.2 engine problems, I'm reluctant to bypass it.
213 Grove
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Test drove the Subaru Ascent today and it doesn't have that feature
agracer
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Honda's have the button, but on my wife's CRV, the stop/start only activates if you fully depress the brake pedal.

You come to a stop at a light or stop sign but don't have the brake peddle fully depressed, a little notice will appear on the dash "to engage auto-stop, fully depress brake pedal". Which more manu. would do it this way.

Basically you have to jam the peddle down to get it to activate.
GentrysMillTX10
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The pop up notice would drive me nuts
Max Power
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Evidently some of the 6th generation 4Runners have it, and some do not. I had a SR5 as a rental last year and it did not have stop/start on it. Toyota could confirm which ones do and do not have it if it's not on every one of them.
Tango.Mike
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Mas89 said:

GentrysMillTX10 said:

My wife's 2023 expedition does not have it. It was a $50 option to delete start/stop on the build sheet

Same on my 23 f150. Iirc, that's the last year the delete was available from the Ford factory due to the chip shortage then. I'll buy a new one when Ford offers the delete again.
Wife's 25 Escalade has the stupid button and we Hate the feature but with the extended warranty and reported 6.2 engine problems, I'm reluctant to bypass it.


https://www.autostopeliminator.com/products/2019-silverado-autostop-eliminator

Plug in. Don't even need to cut/splice the wires. 5 minutes to install, 2 minutes to uninstall.

Autostop is hell on VVT engines. If anything, keeping the autostop will kill your engine faster
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gggmann said:

I think the Porsche Macan and Cayenne are a one time push of a button to disable, at least that's how it works in their sports cars. Also, if you put it in sport or sport+ (need to have sport chrono package) it doesn't use auto start/stop.


True in my Cayenne. Button push every time it starts.
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aggiesundevil4 said:

I confirm my GX 550 I bought last year does not have the annoying auto off. It's glorious.

Toyota's mantra of "Yesterday's technology...today!" pays off here.
AgsMnn
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Anything to stop this and the engine going to 4 cylinder?

Got a 23' Yukon that I want to get this stopped on.
Tango.Mike
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AgsMnn said:

Anything to stop this and the engine going to 4 cylinder?

Got a 23' Yukon that I want to get this stopped on.


AFM delete (that doesn't require Forscan):
https://www.rangetechnology.com/products/afm-dfm_disabler/parts/RA003B

Autostop delete linked above. There are other brands out there, I just linked the brand I've been using in the wife's car and in the daughter's car
AgsMnn
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Thank you.
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