Chevrolet - Dealers won't budge from sticker?

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Looking for a 2026 Traverse or Acadia. Dealers I am calling aren't budging off the sticker. I don't think I have run across this in the past. I know December would have probably been better to negotiate, but not understanding this.

Other Texags threads talking about you should be able to get 8-10% off sticker. Are those folks being realistic?
TSW2012
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Check what Laura Chevy GMC has them for to see.
bigtruckguy3500
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Are you just calling or seeing in person? I've never purchased a new car, but I would think you being in front of them and willing to actually walk would make them more likely to budge.

Everything I've been hearing is that people aren't buying new cars and keeping their used cars longer, so unless GM is producing less inventory, I would think they'd still want to move inventory. Then again, a 2026 probably just hit the lot and no urgency to move them compared with a 2025 (if they still have them).
TSW2012
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Also the Buick Enclave got the facelift in 25 you may be able to get a better deal on a leftover 25 Buick than a 26 Chevy/gmc
BlueHeeler
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Thanks for the replies. I'll definitely check into the Enclave.
kyledr04
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For gm, getting 8-10% off sticker usually only happens with rebates or maybe a vehicle that's been on the lot forever. We got almost nothing off our Acadia in 24. I don't think there's much if any rebates for them right now. Lately I've seen dealers offer $1000-1500 off but that's about it.
CanyonAg77
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Cavender GMC in San Antonio came off about 8-10% for a 2025 Sierra 2500. Rule one photos in a few days
aggiecody06
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Contact Gabriel Jordan Chevrolet in Henderson, TX. They've been awesome to work with. Recently got a 26 Traverse from them.
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bigtruckguy3500 said:

Are you just calling or seeing in person? I've never purchased a new car, but I would think you being in front of them and willing to actually walk would make them more likely to budge.



Not anymore. I was literally told at local ford dealerships in boise to take it or leave it. When asking if they'd budge, theyd literally point at the sticker on the window and walk away, no looking back. I was shocked, but apparently thats how it's done now. Dealers know literally nothing about their trucks, and don't have to worry about dealing with buyers trying to negotiate since that is no longer a thing. They've all taken the CarMax model.

First new vehicle ive bought in a decade and it's a completely different world.
BlueHeeler
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Just to add. I watched several videos on YouTube of those guys that negotiate deals for a living. They said don't go in to the dealership because then you are in their territory and they have an advantage. Not sure I believe that, though.
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I sort of did it when I bought my Ram. Negotiated a bit with a dealer in Baton Rouge and used their discount as a price match at the place I eventually got it from in Frisco.

Ended up nearly 20% off MSRP but it sounds like other manufacturers may not play ball like that.
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BlueHeeler said:

Just to add. I watched several videos on YouTube of those guys that negotiate deals for a living. They said don't go in to the dealership because then you are in their territory and they have an advantage. Not sure I believe that, though.


From my experience online was actually worse. They were actually more likely to give me some attention in person, which was surprising, but online they just kept telling me how they don't really need me since the vehicles will sell regardless. In person, after going to every dealership in the area, including talking to 3 different salespeople at the closest location (independently, they didn't know I basically talked to different ones until one actually was willing to discuss a deal instead of telling me to F off), I actually got one to convince their manager to drop $1k. That was only after pointing out multiple times that not a single powerboost had sold in the previous 2 months at their dealership, and only a few in the entire part of the state.

$1k. Woohoo...

I couldn't believe how condescending and arrogant these dealerships have become. I had always done things online with previous purchases, but at least out here they were infinitely worse than within the dealerships themselves. So much arrogance and condescension. They make it clear that we need them more than they need us, and don't even hide their disdain for their customers anymore. One even told me that they sell more trucks than anyone else in the state, so they're doing something right and don't need to budge, literally that they have no reason to talk to me. Arrogant *****s.
Kaiser von Wilhelm
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MRB10 said:

I sort of did it when I bought my Ram. Negotiated a bit with a dealer in Baton Rouge and used their discount as a price match at the place I eventually got it from in Frisco.

Ended up nearly 20% off MSRP but it sounds like other manufacturers may not play ball like that.


What's frustrating about out here is that all the dealerships within a couple hundred miles have price fixing. They all have exactly the same discounts to make sure that no one will use one against the other. They don't even deny that when I pointed it out to their face. This was at all Chevy/GMC and ford dealerships in the region.
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Yeah, I completely agree on the arrogance. The worst encounter I had was with a dealership that listed a woman as the GM. Her sales lady sent an email to me that was outright rude and definitely not professional. It followed the "I'm a woman and you MAN aren't going to get to me". If I find a dealership that has a car I want and see a woman GM listed, I just skip over it. (not trying to be ugly here, just truthful).
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In DFW, check out Jerry's. They show online discounts that are little more competitive. And Stonebriar Chevy seems to always show fairly heavy discounts online. I have no idea how legitimate either dealer is. You very well may get the same BS games. I avoid James Wood and Sewell for those reasons...they have played those games you've described, and I'll never shop there again, and encourage others to avoid them as well. You'll just be wasting your time.

Also, Costco currently has a Chevy Traverse promo. I think you already need to be a Costco member. Even if you're not, they do these promos all the time. Not every dealer will participate, though.

Good luck...
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You're doing it wrong.
1. Figure out which vehicle(s) you want.
2. Figure out which dealerships have those vehicles.
3. Find the lowest price advertised anywhere in the country
a. build the vehicle on chevy's website
b. when you're done and they show you the vehicles that are available that match what you built, find the lowest price (about $5k off msrp on 2026 traverses right now).
4.. Call the closest dealer with the one you want: "Hi, this is BlueHeeler. I'm buying a <color> 2026 Traverse <trim level> this week with __ options for $--- from ___ dealer. You have one on your lot with the same options. If you can beat their price by $500, I'll be in this afternoon to complete the purchase."
5. If they offer to match the price without any dealer add-ons, take the deal (lowest priced dealer likely has bs dealer add-ons to get to their price.)

Dealers can get 100 calls and emails a day. Maybe 5% result in a sale. If you can get them to understand that you are one of the 5% and are buying a car today, you will have more success.

Many will tell you to never make the first offer. That only applies if you don't have the internet and don't know what things cost. Do your research, make an offer that's just a little lower than what you think anyone will actually do, and now you have a salesman that knows there could be a sale and it's time to negotiate and invest the time in pursuing it.
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Good stuff there. Thanks!
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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

bigtruckguy3500 said:

Are you just calling or seeing in person? I've never purchased a new car, but I would think you being in front of them and willing to actually walk would make them more likely to budge.



Not anymore. I was literally told at local ford dealerships in boise to take it or leave it. When asking if they'd budge, theyd literally point at the sticker on the window and walk away, no looking back. I was shocked, but apparently thats how it's done now. Dealers know literally nothing about their trucks, and don't have to worry about dealing with buyers trying to negotiate since that is no longer a thing. They've all taken the CarMax model.

First new vehicle ive bought in a decade and it's a completely different world.

Not all dealerships.
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agnerd said:

You're doing it wrong.
1. Figure out which vehicle(s) you want.
2. Figure out which dealerships have those vehicles.
3. Find the lowest price advertised anywhere in the country
a. build the vehicle on chevy's website
b. when you're done and they show you the vehicles that are available that match what you built, find the lowest price (about $5k off msrp on 2026 traverses right now).
4.. Call the closest dealer with the one you want: "Hi, this is BlueHeeler. I'm buying a <color> 2026 Traverse <trim level> this week with __ options for $--- from ___ dealer. You have one on your lot with the same options. If you can beat their price by $500, I'll be in this afternoon to complete the purchase."
5. If they offer to match the price without any dealer add-ons, take the deal (lowest priced dealer likely has bs dealer add-ons to get to their price.)

Dealers can get 100 calls and emails a day. Maybe 5% result in a sale. If you can get them to understand that you are one of the 5% and are buying a car today, you will have more success.

Many will tell you to never make the first offer. That only applies if you don't have the internet and don't know what things cost. Do your research, make an offer that's just a little lower than what you think anyone will actually do, and now you have a salesman that knows there could be a sale and it's time to negotiate and invest the time in pursuing it.



It's been a while but I also told them I had my own financing and requested the purchase order. Maybe I'm foggy but I recall the purchase order being legit and above them being able to add crap on or increase the price when you show up.
maroon barchetta
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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

BlueHeeler said:

Just to add. I watched several videos on YouTube of those guys that negotiate deals for a living. They said don't go in to the dealership because then you are in their territory and they have an advantage. Not sure I believe that, though.



I couldn't believe how condescending and arrogant these dealerships have become.
I had always done things online with previous purchases, but at least out here they were infinitely worse than within the dealerships themselves. So much arrogance and condescension. They make it clear that we need them more than they need us, and don't even hide their disdain for their customers anymore. One even told me that they sell more trucks than anyone else in the state, so they're doing something right and don't need to budge, literally that they have no reason to talk to me. Arrogant *****s.


I am FLATOUT surprised that a dealership employee would behave in this manner.
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agnerd said:

You're doing it wrong.
1. Figure out which vehicle(s) you want.
2. Figure out which dealerships have those vehicles.
3. Find the lowest price advertised anywhere in the country
a. build the vehicle on chevy's website
b. when you're done and they show you the vehicles that are available that match what you built, find the lowest price (about $5k off msrp on 2026 traverses right now).
4.. Call the closest dealer with the one you want: "Hi, this is BlueHeeler. I'm buying a <color> 2026 Traverse <trim level> this week with __ options for $--- from ___ dealer. You have one on your lot with the same options. If you can beat their price by $500, I'll be in this afternoon to complete the purchase."
5. If they offer to match the price without any dealer add-ons, take the deal (lowest priced dealer likely has bs dealer add-ons to get to their price.)

Dealers can get 100 calls and emails a day. Maybe 5% result in a sale. If you can get them to understand that you are one of the 5% and are buying a car today, you will have more success.

Many will tell you to never make the first offer. That only applies if you don't have the internet and don't know what things cost. Do your research, make an offer that's just a little lower than what you think anyone will actually do, and now you have a salesman that knows there could be a sale and it's time to negotiate and invest the time in pursuing it.



All of this. 3 of my last 4 purchases have been out of state. I do a search on Autotrader to find everything within x miles for the lowest price (some manufacturers make national searches on their website really difficult). You'll have to weed out the too good to be true prices (with all the discounts you don't qualify for) but that's usually pretty easy. Local dealerships have never been able to come close to out of state even with the added cost of shipping or flying out but I do give a few a chance just in case.
Trinity Ag
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Talked to a guy in sales the other day. He said that the car pricing models have changed there just isn't the space between invoice and MSRP like there used to be, so dealerships don't have 8-10% margin to deal with, absent factory incentives.

This was a Honda dealership, but I've heard the same about others.

A knock on wade effect is all the dealer add-ons, because the dealers aren't making as much on simple sales as they used to.
BlueHeeler
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Update. I found the exact car I wanted and got it for 11% under the sticker. I had to drive 250 miles to get it, but I saved $4000 under what my local dealer and all the Houston dealers giving me.
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Going to share the dealership with us?
Enviroag02
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FYI Stonebriar does indeed show heavy discounts online. I got a ZR2 from them back in October. It showed a price of $10,000 off MSRP. When I went in to see it, I was told I needed to click the "see price now" button which wasn't intuitive. Turns out that when you click that, you see an extra $3k in dealer adding that are non-negotiable. They were window tint, hood leading edge PPF, and door edge guards. Not even close to 3k even with labor. I walked out and 30 minutes later I was called back and offered $1800 off the addons so total $8,800 off MSRP. That was at least $5k better than all other dealers, even ones that didn't do the tint etc. So a dealer can both be cagey with their pricing and a good deal at the same time.
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