BlueHeeler said:
Just to add. I watched several videos on YouTube of those guys that negotiate deals for a living. They said don't go in to the dealership because then you are in their territory and they have an advantage. Not sure I believe that, though.
From my experience online was actually worse. They were actually more likely to give me some attention in person, which was surprising, but online they just kept telling me how they don't really need me since the vehicles will sell regardless. In person, after going to every dealership in the area, including talking to 3 different salespeople at the closest location (independently, they didn't know I basically talked to different ones until one actually was willing to discuss a deal instead of telling me to F off), I actually got one to convince their manager to drop $1k. That was only after pointing out multiple times that not a single powerboost had sold in the previous 2 months at their dealership, and only a few in the entire part of the state.
$1k. Woohoo...
I couldn't believe how condescending and arrogant these dealerships have become. I had always done things online with previous purchases, but at least out here they were infinitely worse than within the dealerships themselves. So much arrogance and condescension. They make it clear that we need them more than they need us, and don't even hide their disdain for their customers anymore. One even told me that they sell more trucks than anyone else in the state, so they're doing something right and don't need to budge, literally that they have no reason to talk to me. Arrogant *****s.