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Happened yesterday afternoon. Tow truck guy said it's likely totaled.

2019 GMC Sierra SLT 4x4, 61K miles


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$19,483
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In Oregon, that is totaled.

In South Texas, that is back on the road next week after replacing the quarter panel (with a mismatched color) and cutting off the edge of the bumper close to the tire.
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I'm back in TX now, just haven't gotten it registered here yet.
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$16,800
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DId it bend any of the frame? If not, I can see replacing the bumper and quarter panel and calling it good.

$12k, Bob!

~egon
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Totaled? What's the Blue Book on that truck before the wreck? Seems like under $20k in damage vs. a truck I would guess worth over $30k. Is the frame or radiator damaged?
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Hood
Headlight (expensive if LED)
Bumper
Front quarter panel
Likely other bits in the front end
Is there any damage to the door?

You're going to be close to totaled.
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Yeah, that interior frame piece above the wheel is all out of wack, the radiator is pushed back from the bottom (didn't rupture), and when the fender peeled back it dented the door and scratched the hell out of it when I opened it to get out.

I spoke with the other drivers insurance this morning and based on the pics they said they will likely just total it. Still waiting on confirmation of that and a rental.
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EMY92 said:

Hood
Headlight (expensive if LED)
Bumper
Front quarter panel
Likely other bits in the front end
Is there any damage to the door?

You're going to be close to totaled.

Yep, LEDs all around. I was surprised how the whole thing just shattered
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Finally got a rental yesterday (and I hate it, Nissan Frontier)

Progressive said they are going to total it which I find interesting since they are only basing this off of pics and a walkaround video that I submitted with the claim. I searched KBB for value and they came up with $43K (Private Party). I haven't gotten a settlement proposal from Progressive yet.

I need to start searching for comps online in preparation of the inevitable value argument.
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$43k seems like a really great offer. I just paid $53k for a 2023 AT4 with a 3.0 diesel and 36k miles from a dealer back in September.
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How many times did you have to take the pictures and do the walk around video? We had to do it 3 or 4 times when my wife was in a wreck on Black Friday.
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I just took a few at the accident scene and submitted those, they didn't ask for anymore.
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PMD03 said:

In South Texas, that is back on the road next week after replacing the quarter panel (with a mismatched color) and cutting off the edge of the bumper close to the tire.

Don't forget the colored tape for lenses on the broken lights.
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Man, our claim experience with Progressive was a major disappointment. On top of having to repeat the photo/video process multiple times, the claims rep was not responsive to messages, and pretty much refused to talk on the phone.
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Wow, it's only been a couple of days and I have only had to call the claims representative twice but she has responded within about 20 minutes each time

We shall see what happens when we start talking about the settlement though.
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I'm still trying to figure out where the front quarter panel is?
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Do you see the thing hanging off of the driver's door?
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They are not going to give you blue book, they're going to give you what it cost to buy another one of that year make and model and the miles you have on it. They take your vehicle and what you had as far as base model, any extras don't count, and they're going to comb dealer lots in the market as it is today and give you that.

Being that your truck is seven years old…

I don't see you getting close to 43K. No way. Maybe 30k on market value and argue up a little.


And in Texas, if the Frame is even remotely bent, It's totaled. It's basically the law. They will take your truck and auction it off for pennies and somebody else will get it and fix it on a salvage title, And it will be considered unsafe for the rest of its life because of the frame is bent.

If the frame is not bent, and it's cheaper to fix it than it is to give you what they feel, the value is as I explained above, then they will fix it. That is generally up to the Collision specialist that will look at it first and report back to the insurance company on an exact amount, and if the frame is bent.

It also depends on whose fault it was… And what I mean is whose insurance company will be making this decision…. If it was not your fault, you will be at the mercy of their insurance company not yours…. The only thing your insurance company will do is help make sure you get taken care of by their insurance company, that's about it..

If it ends up at a collision specialist and they decide to total it, you need to get your ass over there and get that bed cover off for starters. Because you Aren't going to be compensated for that. Until you sign your truck away to the collision specialist once they decide to total it, the truck is still yours and you have the right to get that off and keep it. It will not diminish the value and bargaining you get from the insurance company over the amount you will receive on the vehicle being totaled because you will be compensated for a base truck without extras such as specialty rims or truck covers or aftermarket items. If you bought those items within 12 months, you have a small chance of being compensated for them, but I highly doubt that it's the case… And yes, they will want receipts and proof.

So get ready for that. Just remember, you have all the rights on your truck until the insurance company and agree to a settlement check and you sign away those rights of power of attorney over the truck and thus sell it to them Via the settlement of totaling it.

When somebody hit my 2021 F150 power boost that was in mint condition. I made it very clear to Geico and the collision company that I was getting my stuff back…. Rims, bed, cover, and tires and wheels… my rims and tires were worth far more than my brand new 2026 truck that I bought to replace it… so I bought the new truck, drove over to the collision company and had them pull off my rims and tires… and took my new truck and those rims and tires to discount tire and had them swap everything out… then I took back my new Ford rims over to the Collision company and had them put that on the totaled truck. Geico agreed to this because all they cared was that comparable stock level rims and tires were on the truck.. they didn't care about the quality of the rims outside of that which was listed as stock nor how tread dead the tires were or were not…. Because it's all about checking off boxes…. And I took my custom license plates too, and put them on the new truck also.

PS-Progressive is one of the worst. Sorry man.

My wrecked 2021 truck (hit from behind) with my brand new 2026 rims…. And old tires….


Reading this forum sometimes is like people that can't speak English well trying to differentiate between a "booty call" and a "butt dial".
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Did the air bags not deploy?
Tree Hugger
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No airbags thankfully
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Curious how this works.

So you lose the truck in a wreck that wasn't your fault, and you will obviously need a new vehicle. Say there is a $20K delta between the value of the totaled truck and cost of a replacement. Are you just screwed into eating the $20K even though there was no fault of your own?

If that is the case, it doesn't seem right. Have you considered lawyering up to get that delta covered? Do you go to a PI attorney or some other kind of attorney? Personal injury route seems shady, but they must be effective to have so many out there. I'd love to hear perspectives.
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tree91 said:

Curious how this works.

So you lose the truck in a wreck that wasn't your fault, and you will obviously need a new vehicle. Say there is a $20K delta between the value of the totaled truck and cost of a replacement. Are you just screwed into eating the $20K even though there was no fault of your own?

If that is the case, it doesn't seem right. Have you considered lawyering up to get that delta covered? Do you go to a PI attorney or some other kind of attorney? Personal injury route seems shady, but they must be effective to have so many out there. I'd love to hear perspectives.

you are made whole by the insurance company. Whole = same truck you lost, not new.

If you can find a truck with similar miles, condition, options with with-in 50-miles for $20,000, then the insurance company (in theory) will offer you a $20,000 + TTL check to 'make you whole". The insurance co. will have their own way of calculating the value, will likely undercut you and you get to argue.

I did this with my van when the ins. co. offered about 70% of the value to replace it and had to go online and find several examples of the exact make/model/miles/condition van to get them to 'make me whole'. Only took a few weeks but I got the value out of them.

If you decide to take that $20,000 + TTL check and buy something for $40,000, then yes, you are responsible for the extra $20,000 to buy a newer vehicle.
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satexas said:

They are not going to give you blue book, they're going to give you what it cost to buy another one of that year make and model and the miles you have on it. They take your vehicle and what you had as far as base model, any extras don't count, and they're going to comb dealer lots in the market as it is today and give you that.

Being that your truck is seven years old…

I don't see you getting anywhere close to 43K. No way. Maybe half that.


And in Texas, if the Frame is even remotely bent, It's totaled. It's basically the law. They will take your truck and auction it off for pennies and somebody else will get it and fix it on a salvage title, And it will be considered unsafe for the rest of its life because of the frame is bent.

If the frame is not bent, and it's cheaper to fix it than it is to give you what they feel, the value is as I explained above, then they will fix it. That is generally up to the Collision specialist that will look at it first and report back to the insurance company on an exact amount, and if the frame is bent.

It also depends on whose fault it was… And what I mean is whose insurance company will be making this decision…. If it was not your fault, you will be at the mercy of their insurance company not yours…. The only thing your insurance company will do is help make sure you get taken care of by their insurance company, that's about it..

If it ends up at a collision specialist and they decide to total it, you need to get your ass over there and get that bed cover off for starters. Because you Aren't going to be compensated for that. Until you sign your truck away to the collision specialist once they decide to total it, the truck is still yours and you have the right to get that off and keep it. It will not diminish the value and bargaining you get from the insurance company over the amount you will receive on the vehicle being totaled because you will be compensated for a base truck without extras such as specialty rims or truck covers or aftermarket items. If you bought those items within 12 months, you have a small chance of being compensated for them, but I highly doubt that it's the case… And yes, they will want receipts and proof.

So get ready for that. Just remember, you have all the rights on your truck until the insurance company and agree to a settlement check and you sign away those rights of power of attorney over the truck and thus sell it to them Via the settlement of totaling it.

When somebody hit my 2021 F150 power boost that was in mint condition. I made it very clear to Geico and the collision company that I was getting my stuff back…. Rims, bed, cover, and tires and wheels… my rims and tires were worth far more than my brand new 2026 truck that I bought to replace it… so I bought the new truck, drove over to the collision company and had them pull off my rims and tires… and took my new truck and those rims and tires to discount tire and had them swap everything out… then I took back my new Ford rims over to the Collision company and had them put that on the totaled truck. Geico agreed to this because all they cared was that comparable stock level rims and tires were on the truck.. they didn't care about the quality of the rims outside of that which was listed as stock nor how tread dead the tires were or were not…. Because it's all about checking off boxes…. And I took my custom license plates too, and put them on the new truck also.

PS-Progressive is one of the worst. Sorry man.

My wrecked 2021 truck (hit from behind) with my brand new 2026 rims…. And old tires….




The bolded lines were not my experience. I had put a lot of upgrades into my 4Runner, and when mine was totaled they gave me the replacement value of everything I asked for - running boards, head unit, upgraded headlights, wheels - I think I did provide emailed receipts and correspondence, but none of it was bought within the last 12 months.
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satexas said:

They are not going to give you blue book, they're going to give you what it cost to buy another one of that year make and model and the miles you have on it. They take your vehicle and what you had as far as base model, any extras don't count, and they're going to comb dealer lots in the market as it is today and give you that.

Being that your truck is seven years old…

I don't see you getting anywhere close to 43K. No way. Maybe half that.


And in Texas, if the Frame is even remotely bent, It's totaled. It's basically the law. They will take your truck and auction it off for pennies and somebody else will get it and fix it on a salvage title, And it will be considered unsafe for the rest of its life because of the frame is bent.

If the frame is not bent, and it's cheaper to fix it than it is to give you what they feel, the value is as I explained above, then they will fix it. That is generally up to the Collision specialist that will look at it first and report back to the insurance company on an exact amount, and if the frame is bent.

It also depends on whose fault it was… And what I mean is whose insurance company will be making this decision…. If it was not your fault, you will be at the mercy of their insurance company not yours…. The only thing your insurance company will do is help make sure you get taken care of by their insurance company, that's about it..

If it ends up at a collision specialist and they decide to total it, you need to get your ass over there and get that bed cover off for starters. Because you Aren't going to be compensated for that. Until you sign your truck away to the collision specialist once they decide to total it, the truck is still yours and you have the right to get that off and keep it. It will not diminish the value and bargaining you get from the insurance company over the amount you will receive on the vehicle being totaled because you will be compensated for a base truck without extras such as specialty rims or truck covers or aftermarket items. If you bought those items within 12 months, you have a small chance of being compensated for them, but I highly doubt that it's the case… And yes, they will want receipts and proof.

So get ready for that. Just remember, you have all the rights on your truck until the insurance company and agree to a settlement check and you sign away those rights of power of attorney over the truck and thus sell it to them Via the settlement of totaling it.

When somebody hit my 2021 F150 power boost that was in mint condition. I made it very clear to Geico and the collision company that I was getting my stuff back…. Rims, bed, cover, and tires and wheels… my rims and tires were worth far more than my brand new 2026 truck that I bought to replace it… so I bought the new truck, drove over to the collision company and had them pull off my rims and tires… and took my new truck and those rims and tires to discount tire and had them swap everything out… then I took back my new Ford rims over to the Collision company and had them put that on the totaled truck. Geico agreed to this because all they cared was that comparable stock level rims and tires were on the truck.. they didn't care about the quality of the rims outside of that which was listed as stock nor how tread dead the tires were or were not…. Because it's all about checking off boxes…. And I took my custom license plates too, and put them on the new truck also.

PS-Progressive is one of the worst. Sorry man.

My wrecked 2021 truck (hit from behind) with my brand new 2026 rims…. And old tires….




Rims and tires worth more than a new truck? Do you produce rap videos or something?
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Milwaukees Best Light said:

satexas said:


My wrecked 2021 truck (hit from behind) with my brand new 2026 rims…. And old tires….




Rims and tires worth more than a new truck? Do you produce rap videos or something?


I believe we have a misunderstanding.

My rims and tires were worth more on my wrecked truck, than the rims & tires on my new truck. Also, my rims are 'discontinued', and very unique and can longer be found or obtained - even deep in someone's warehouse on surplus.

So... I told Geico (the insurance carrier of the guy who hit me) that I refused any settlement where I couldn't swap out my new tires/rims with my old tires/rims. Geico flat out told me they didn't care as long as the rims on the truck were equal to, or better than, what came with it... and the tread and condition of the tires themselves didn't matter to them at all.
Reading this forum sometimes is like people that can't speak English well trying to differentiate between a "booty call" and a "butt dial".
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Prince_Ahmed said:

The bolded lines were not my experience. I had put a lot of upgrades into my 4Runner, and when mine was totaled they gave me the replacement value of everything I asked for - running boards, head unit, upgraded headlights, wheels - I think I did provide emailed receipts and correspondence, but none of it was bought within the last 12 months.


Typically they don't honor any of these things at all, with few exceptions. What they do however, is have a small flexible window to argue within - so they let you try to justify things, and then they use this window to credit you a little more. So the victim thinks they're getting credit for their accessories, but truth is, it's just part of the argument on the final number and the carrier is using that flexible range to offer you a little more.

(TLDR, they have $5k to work with, you ask for accessory compensation, and they offer you $4k more on the original offer and say 'for the accessories' and you agree. It really wasn't for the accessories per-se')

The really only exceptions are if you just did tangible, removable things and have receipts - but they have to be super recent (depends on the item, how far back they'll honor).... and that varies a little by carrier, but they all work the same way.
Reading this forum sometimes is like people that can't speak English well trying to differentiate between a "booty call" and a "butt dial".
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Tree Hugger said:

Wow, it's only been a couple of days and I have only had to call the claims representative twice but she has responded within about 20 minutes each time

We shall see what happens when we start talking about the settlement though.


Is it Tanzia with Progressive?
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And the next step in my saga is that the at fault driver was only carrying state minimums on their policy. I'm getting my insurance involved, and yes I do have un/under insured coverage
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$21766

I'm glad you are okay.
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Start pulling your own comps for a comparable model truck, not similar and have them at the ready. I had to do this with my insurance when an uninsured driver totaled a mint king ranch f-150 with very low miles.

For example they would send comps with prices of same year model with an ecoboost, I had the V8 and was adamant those are not comparable etc. I produced my own comps that were actually right, told them I had time on my side and would continue to produce comps that had the best value associate with them and would continue to do so until the value was fair.
They expect you to settle...keep fighting. I ended up getting close to $10k more from their original offer.
Good Luck!
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satexas said:

Prince_Ahmed said:

The bolded lines were not my experience. I had put a lot of upgrades into my 4Runner, and when mine was totaled they gave me the replacement value of everything I asked for - running boards, head unit, upgraded headlights, wheels - I think I did provide emailed receipts and correspondence, but none of it was bought within the last 12 months.


Typically they don't honor any of these things at all, with few exceptions. What they do however, is have a small flexible window to argue within - so they let you try to justify things, and then they use this window to credit you a little more. So the victim thinks they're getting credit for their accessories, but truth is, it's just part of the argument on the final number and the carrier is using that flexible range to offer you a little more.

(TLDR, they have $5k to work with, you ask for accessory compensation, and they offer you $4k more on the original offer and say 'for the accessories' and you agree. It really wasn't for the accessories per-se')

The really only exceptions are if you just did tangible, removable things and have receipts - but they have to be super recent (depends on the item, how far back they'll honor).... and that varies a little by carrier, but they all work the same way.


My truck got totaled. Lifted truck with 35" tires. They wouldn't cover any of the lifted components. Told me I needed a separate insurance policy for those components.
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Hopefully I hear something back today, I talked with the estimator from my insurance yesterday and he said he would look at my truck this morning. I'm just ready for some answers.
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Damage estimate = $27,865.25

Waiting to hear on settlement
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