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Bone Broth - I'm a convert!

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My son told me that he and his wife had started making bone broth and drinking it every day and had some amazing results. I've read about it and heard people like Tim Ferris recommending it but never tried it - the commercially available stuff is pretty expensive.

I picked up some marrow bones at HEB ($5) and some "meaty bones" (intended for stew) from the place we've been buying our grass fed beef ($7) from and made some this past weekend. Within two days, my aching joints felt 100% better. Usually in the morning when I first get up I kind of limp across the floor for the first 20 feet but on day three I jumped up and power-walked all the way to the kitchen and then suddenly stopped when I realized what I'd done. No pain. My wife decided she would try it, and the very next morning she woke up and the arthritis in her hands was vastly improved.

All we did is roast the bones in the oven on 425 for 20-25 minutes, scrape the marrow out (delicious.,...) and then everything in the Instant Pot for three hours. We added an old onion and some celery we had that needed to be used, and a couple bay leaves and some thyme but we plan on making this often so I don't even know if I'll go to that trouble. It does need salt though. After it cools we pour it in a big bowl and let it cool overnight in the frig, then you remove the layer of fat that has hardened on the top. You can keep some of it if you want but it's a lot of fat. The remaining liquid is still a bit thick because it's full of collagen. I just pour a coffee cup full and nuke it for 60 seconds, add some salt and drink it before lunch.

I was suspicious but my son swore by it, and now I do too. Any other bone broth drinkers on here?
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I use it often for cooking but don't drink glasses of it. I still wind up consuming a decent amount of it. I've also never made it myself, seems like quite a bit of work and it isn't all that expensive or difficult to find in my local grocery store. Probably isn't as nutrient rich as yours is though.

Glad you like it, and obviously I agree it's worth incorporating into a diet, but all joint pain erased in 2 days seems like a bit of stretch.

A good rule of thumb I've heard for anyone else interested in buying some is to look at the protein content or density. The higher the protein the closer it is to actual bone broth vs stock. The kind I buy is 10g of protein/cup.
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Aggie_Boomin 21 said:

I use it often for cooking but don't drink glasses of it. I still wind up consuming a decent amount of it. I've also never made it myself, seems like quite a bit of work and it isn't all that expensive or difficult to find in my local grocery store. Probably isn't as nutrient rich as yours is though.

Glad you like it, and obviously I agree it's worth incorporating into a diet, but all joint pain erased in 2 days seems like a bit of stretch.

A good rule of thumb I've heard for anyone else interested in buying some is to look at the protein content or density. The higher the protein the closer it is to actual bone broth vs stock. The kind I buy is 10g of protein/cup.
I agree, I could hardly believe it myself. The stuff I am making is pretty thick. I'd love to have it sent off and analyzed to see what the actual protein and fat content is. I know the collagen is good too - a guy a follow just wrote a book on Collagen - haven't read it yet (Dr. James DiNicolantonio) but he's all in on it.

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I recently started pressure canning and made a big batch with the carcass from the Thanksgiving turkey. It's been super nice to have on hand for soups, stews, etc. Way better than the store bought stuff.
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Max06 said:

I recently started pressure canning and made a big batch with the carcass from the Thanksgiving turkey. It's been super nice to have on hand for soups, stews, etc. Way better than the store bought stuff.

I agree with this. We do the same with vegetables. Save scraps from onions, celery, etc and when have enough make vegetable stock.

I just find it hard to believe that all of someone's joint point goes away after a glass. That's pretty eye roll, Facebook pyramid scheme worthy….
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OP just laying the groundwork to sell his next book.
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I agree the claim is too good to be true, but bone broth's collagen separates itself a decent amount from vegetable stock.
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Aggie_Boomin 21 said:

I agree the claim is too good to be true, but bone broth's collagen separates itself a decent amount from vegetable stock.

Yeah. Wasn't comparing them in that way. Just adding to max's post that making it at home is better. We do bone, chicken, a lot of turkey around thanksgiving, and vegetable stock all at home.
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I Am A Critic said:

OP just laying the groundwork to sell his next book.


Ha ha nope! I'm one and done on writing books. And I agree it does seem too good to be true. It was three days not just one and like I said my wife, son and DIL are all huge fans too. Not trying to sell y'all on anything I'm just saying give it a try if you have any aches and pains.
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Do mental aches and pains count?
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I made some this weekend because I'd been meaning to for a while, made it out of a marrow bone and two beef knuckles. Blanched the bones for 10 minutes to get rid of the scum, then roasted the bones and veggies for 45 minutes, and then put them in the pressure cooker for 3 hours. I got a little over half a gallon and was able to skim off the fat this morning. It wasnt bad but intensely beefy. I think I need to thin it out with some water next time. Very gelatinous and didn't take long to reheat on the stove, just drank it out of a coffee mug. The fluid is quite filling.
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I cut the broth with water this morning, added some red wine vinegar and a dash of worcestershire sauce and it was more palatable than yesterday. Next time I don't know that I'll use only beef bones, maybe utilize some poultry as well.
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You sure it's not just the celery?
94chem,
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Reviews on the couple of products I found on Amazon don't mention anything about joints. All they mention it as is meal replacement/supplements. I have bad knee joints but will do anything if it helps. I just don't want to chug this if it's not going to help.
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One of the reasons I'm trying this is for that exact reason. At 43 my knees just aren't great. If looking into the store bought ones pay attention to the ingredients. Also if it's real bone broth it should be completely gelatinous once it's cooled. If haven't tried any of the store bought kinds, I'm starting with making my own, it's not that difficult. Its faster if you have a pressure cooker but you can make it on the stove or in a slow cooker as well. I just started this week so I'll try it for a while to see if it helps anything. Next batch I do I'll try to go to the farmers market or an organic grocery store since the quality of the bones matters, I just grabbed stuff from my regular grocery store for this first batch.
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I would think you could more easily get the joint health benefits from collagen peptides, which you can buy in powder form.
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Bone broth is pretty popular with carnivore diet followers. You can find some additional information about it by researching that diet.
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PlanoAg98 said:

Reviews on the couple of products I found on Amazon don't mention anything about joints. All they mention it as is meal replacement/supplements. I have bad knee joints but will do anything if it helps. I just don't want to chug this if it's not going to help.


Have you tried chondroitin/glucosamine?
94chem,
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Quote:

Have you tried chondroitin/glucosamine?

Yes. Been taking that pill for years.
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PlanoAg98 said:

Quote:

Have you tried chondroitin/glucosamine?

Yes. Been taking that pill for years.
Friend of mine told me years ago that it's a game changer for about 1/3 of people, has some benefits for about 1/3, and does nothing for about 1/3. Sounds like you're in one of the latter two groups.
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Max Power
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Still doing bone broth almost every morning. My knees are doing better but I don't know if it's from the broth or the fact I gave my knees a break from lifting for a while, perhaps some of both. Slowly going back to squat and deadlift but I'm going super light and lifting very slow. I do think it's good to have first thing in the morning because I stay full until mid morning. I found a good source for grass fed beef bones at the farmers market for a reasonable price. I did find out this batch you need to have a knuckle in there for a high yield of collagen/gelatin. I did a batch of just marrow bones this time as a test and it's far less gelatinous.
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Is your joint pain related to osteoarthritis or something else?
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This is probably a stupid question, but does anyone have a link to a good recipe for bone broth? I've been wanting to make some and just really don't have the first clue how as a bone broth beginner. I'm sure there are many online, but would like to try to make one that someone has tried and liked and/or benefited from.
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Here's basically what I've been doing.

2 lbs beef bones including a knuckle
1 onion
1 carrot
1 bay leaf
2 t salt
1 T vinegar (don't think it matters, I've used different ones and haven't noticed a difference.)

-Put the bones in a stock pot and cover with cold water, boil for 10 minutes.
-Continuously remove the scum from the surface of the water.
-Roast (400 degrees) the bones and the onion (quartered) for 45 minutes, flipping halfway.
-Put everything listed above into a pressure cooker and fill to the max fill line.
-Cook on high pressure for 3 hours, letting the pressure escape naturally after it's done
-Remove all the larger items with tongs and filter the liquid through a fine-mesh strainer.
-Add water to the liquid until you have a gallon of broth.
-I split mine between 2 half gallon mason jars.

Once the fat solidifies you can separate it out and save that tallow for cooking, or drink some as a part of the broth. You'll still need to season that broth once it's warm to your taste..
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Wow - thank you so much for sharing this. I'll definitely try it and see how it turns out. It sounds excellent. One last question - about how long does this process take? I have to be sure I can finish it if I try to start it one evening and not be up until 3:00 am (LOL).

I appreciate it!
Max Power
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It's not bad if you have a pressure cooker. I'll start a new batch either on Saturday or Sunday this weekend and the active time is not bad. I drink a half gallon each week, I have a cup first thing in the morning.

-Boiling the bones is easy, 15 minutes total including the boiling time of 10 minutes.
-Roasting the bones/onion is easy, 45 minutes.
-The majority of the time it's just in the pressure cooker so you can do other stuff, I let it cook for 3 hours and it takes about an hour for the pressure to release naturally.
-Then it's just filtering the liquid and putting into jars.

Total time is about 5.5 hours including prep and cleanup but the actual work is minimal, just do it in the morning.

If you don't have a pressure cooker then it's a lot longer time. The recipes I saw online if you don't have a pressure cooker call for simmering the broth for 12-24 hours.

Side note: if you can cook it outside then do so. My wife doesn't care for how beefy it makes the house smell so I just put the pressure cooker in the garage while it goes.
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I have an Instant Pot pressure cooker that I have not used very much and need to use more. I'm glad to her this is something that I can use it on. I think I'll do as you suggest and try to work the first batch up over the weekend. It sounds like it's a lot of set it and forget it (or just start a kitchen timer and check it later) and that'll be perfect for getting other things done around the house.

I truly didn't have the first clue about trying to make some, so huge thanks for the recipe and additional details. I'm definitely going to give it a try and follow exactly what you've sent.

I guess the only remaining big question I have is, do grocery stores sell bones? (I usually shop at HEB.) Maybe this is something I need to talk to the meat market employees or butchers about? Or do you maybe just save beef bones as you buy and grill, bake, or cook bone-in meats?

Thanks for the outdoor cooking tip. I have an outdoor grill and small kitchen area and I'll definitely cook it there. My wife will also not want to smell 5.5 hours of bone broth while I try to concoct it (LOL).

Thanks again!
Max Power
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You can buy marrow bones and knuckles at most grocery stores or butcher shops. Farmers markets are a good place to track down organic grass fed beef bones. Where I live in MO the bones at the grocery store are about $4/lb and the organic ones at the farmers market are about $5/lb.
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Great! Thanks a ton for all your help. I am going to go bone/marrow/knuckle shopping this weekend and see what the local stores have. It'll probably be a week or so before I give making my first batch of bone broth a shot.

I appreciate all your help and advice.
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You're welcome.
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My grocery store had smoked turkey wings available so I grabbed some of those. When I made some more broth this weekend I substituted some of the beef bones with half a smoked turkey wing and the result was a lot more gelatinous than when I only use beef bones. It also adds a ton of flavor so I'll likely continue to use a combination of beef bones and turkey wings. If you can find those I recommend using some.
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