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Help learning olympic lifts

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mrsbeer05
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I recently started a new strength program that I am enjoying with one issue- Olympic lifts. I have never done these types of lifts and I am struggling to learn them. I also have trouble translating videos into practice. I need someone to see what I am doing and tell me what to fix.

Are y'all aware of any online coaches that could watch videos and give feedback and/or watch me lift in real-time via Zoom (or similar)? I'm not against face-to-face, but I workout at home and don't want to pay for a gym membership when I do not need one.
wcb
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See if there is a Crossfit coach nearby that will do personal training. I would highly recommend getting some help - you can hurt yourself in a hurry with poor technique.
mrsbeer05
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Thanks. This is exactly why want some coaching. I want to avoid bad form that results in injury.
10andBOUNCE
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Not sure cross fit is the place to go for proper technique
bam02
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I know it's a joke, but I've worked out in several CrossFit gyms as a guest (I've never been a member of CrossFit) and coaching is always thorough and top notch. Every coach I've worked with and observed would be very qualified to teach the Olympic lifts.
10andBOUNCE
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I am mostly kidding, but I would be picky about getting proper instruction with any olympic or other compound lift.

I am no expert, but I would say while you're looking for some coaching, it'd be beneficial to work on mobility since that is foundational.
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There is a huge difference between online coaching vs. in person coaching. The real time feedback where you can try things and adjust to the coaching is not matched with video.

The crossfit fad seems to have played its course and you are probably left with coaches and gyms that actually have a clue with what they are doing. If not, they probably would of gone under by now.

If you are anywhere close to New Braunfels, I can suggest a gym
mrsbeer05
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We're in the Woodlands area (Magnolia).
Tex117
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Crossfit should be your absolute last place to get coaching.

You need a proper Olympic weightlifting coach.
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I am not too familiar with the area but came across the Bexar Barbell Club that has an affiliation in Magnolia. Could be worth looking into if you haven't already.

https://bexarbarbell.com/

https://www.risenathleticstx.com/
bam02
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I know you like to come off as an authority on all things fitness and nutrition, but you are wrong on this. I don't do CrossFit and I never have, but I've been in a lot of CrossFit gyms and all the coaching I've seen is extremely competent.
Tex117
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bam02 said:

I know you like to come off as an authority on all things fitness and nutrition, but you are wrong on this. I don't do CrossFit and I never have, but I've been in a lot of CrossFit gyms and all the coaching I've seen is extremely competent.
Alright, I'll bite (and you know from the weightlifting thread that I will absolutely admit when I don't know something). Your obsession with me is noted.

There are COUNTLESS articles out there that speak of the weaknesses of crossfit (and countless people getting hurt). Olympic lifts are highly technical lifts that need more than a 5-10 minute explanation and then do it for time. Could you possible find a crossfit gym where there is good coaching. Yes. Possibly. But their training to coach these things are not very good from an institutional standpoint.

If one is actually serious about doing these types of lifts correctly, then a specific Olympic style coach is the best way to go about it. This is no brainer advice dude.

Sorry you are wrong on this once again.

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I don't do CrossFit and I never have,
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but I've worked out in several CrossFit gyms as a guest (I've never been a member of CrossFit)
LOL, I think this is "doing crossfit."

So, you, having not done crossfit (but done crossfit), are qualified to know what is or isn't property olympic lifting. How can you possibly judge what is or isn't good coaching on lifts you know nothing about?
MouthBQ98
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Been one of those "CrossFit guys" for 12 years. Have 1 injury from lifting in all that time. Pulled a back muscle doing a moderately heavy DL and it took a few weeks to recover. Coaches always preached good form and technique in my personal experience.

Most of the places in operation now have experienced coaches that don't only do CF, have worked in several different types of coaching, and have developed their knowledge outside of CF, and usually train outside of CF. There are good and bad coaches in every system. Most of the relatively reckless or poor form stuff CF used to do has been abandoned, especially in day to day fitness coaching. No coach wants their clients injured. Bad for business for sure.

I will say that coaches that specialize in olympic lifts will probably give the most detailed instructions on them regarding fine tuning if you want to develop those lifts to the maximum of ability. There's always something to be said for specialized expertise. The gym I go to has a coach that also coaches at an Olympic lifting gym, and some people I work out with go to both gyms. Poor form will get you corrective instruction.

I'll say there is a difference between the strength and technique training doing heavy weights, and the lighter weight for reps to get work capacity training. That's why the two are two separate parts of the training. It is easier for technique to deteriorate when tired, but the coaches are there to call out lapses if they are doing their jobs.

Any competent coaching will be better than self instruction. Eyes on what you are doing to correct mistakes or refine techniques with feedback is very helpful, especially early on. Lacking that, you can video yourself from front and side and compare to good example videos, but that is not that great compared to coaching.

bam02
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I've lifted randomly in several CrossFit gyms with friends but have not "attended" or been a member of one. If that makes me a cross fitter to you then so be it.

As a matter of fact I have trained with a USA weightlifting coach (who was a serious competitor at the time) and worked on Olympic lifting with him.

So you've read some articles on CrossFit so you are an expert on it and I think you said your girlfriend is a nutrition major so you're a nutrition expert. Noted.
Tex117
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bam02 said:

I've lifted randomly in several CrossFit gyms with friends but have not "attended" or been a member of one. If that makes me a cross fitter to you then so be it.

As a matter of fact I have trained with a USA weightlifting coach (who was a serious competitor at the time) and worked on Olympic lifting with him.

So you've read some articles on CrossFit so you are an expert on it and I think you said your girlfriend is a nutrition major so you're a nutrition expert. Noted.
You need to get a dictionary out and read what "attend" means. You have in fact "attended" a crossfit gym. You have not been a member.

Then you would have a basis for an opinion on the instruction on the Olympic lifts and something to consider. (Not being facetious here). I think you would agree its not super hard to actually explain an Olympic lift, but its very difficult to trouble shoot problems with Olympic lifts and really help people perfect form and make real progress. But, then again (and not inconsistent with my pervious post), maybe you just got a good crossfit gym with a good coach. They are out there. But I also think that if the OP did what you did, she would make faster progress with the Olympic lifts than if she just went to crossfit.

Mouth has probably the best view of it all on this thread.

And I'm right about nutrition whether you like it or not.
fido00
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What gym/s would you recommend in NB?
jograki
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I'm assuming you're a woman? I go to a Crossfit gym where I get great coaching on lifts, but on the side I also follow this online coaching for women because one of my goals is to be able to do pullups. I am currently enrolled in their pullup program, and while I haven't actively engaged with them, I know they offer feedback and will let you share videos and whatnot. Looked at their page and they have an oly program if you want to check it out.

https://competitivefemaletraining.fitr.training/p/10weekolyprogram
wcb
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wcb said:

See if there is a Crossfit coach nearby that will do personal training. I would highly recommend getting some help - you can hurt yourself in a hurry with poor technique.
My suggestion was based on the two gyms I've trained with in DFW. 313 in Burleson has some of the most competent coaches around. The owner is a couple - the wife is maybe 130lbs - and can power clean 185 with perfect technique. That doesn't just happen by accident.

Crossfit got a terrible rap 10+ years ago but my recent experiences have been exceptional.
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