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GenericAggie
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Daughter 26, dentist. Needs healthcare. Texas based.

Anyone on Obamacare recommend a few plans to consider?

I was reviewing some of the BCBS Tx plans tonight. Seem pretty decent but just starting to research.

She's healthy. No physical or mental issues.

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Is she technically self employed? There are likely significantly better options for a 26 year old woman if she's healthy. Obamacare should be a last resort for someone that can get something better. PM me if you want a connection to someone that can talk to her about her options beyond the exchange plans that are somehow terrible and expensive.
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LOYAL AG said:

Is she technically self employed? There are likely significantly better options for a 26 year old woman if she's healthy. Obamacare should be a last resort for someone that can get something better. PM me if you want a connection to someone that can talk to her about her options beyond the exchange plans that are somehow terrible and expensive.


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KSBogey
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Anna Marie is an independent insurance agent who helped me find a plan a few years ago- she's great and helped explain the options thoroughly.

annamarie@ampinsuranceagency.com
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KSBogey said:

Anna Marie is an independent insurance agent who helped me find a plan a few years ago- she's great and helped explain the options thoroughly.

annamarie@ampinsuranceagency.com


Thank you
bigtruckguy3500
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What do you mean by Obamacare should be a last resort? Do you mean using the healthcare exchange site to purchase many of the same insurance available through other private insurers? Or that you can find private insurance plans that cover more than the ACA minimum by going through an agent?
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bigtruckguy3500 said:

What do you mean by Obamacare should be a last resort? Do you mean using the healthcare exchange site to purchase many of the same insurance available through other private insurers? Or that you can find private insurance plans that cover more than the ACA minimum by going through an agent?


First let me say we live in College Station because that might matter. Sometimes health insurance is strange here. I've seen times where there was no network pediatrician in town. I've had to get exceptions for out of network because the in network provider that was going to insert the tubes into our son's ears worked at a facility that was out of network and insurance wanted us to use a facility in Brenham he didn't have a contract with. We actually induced our second child on December 31 (it was her due date) because effective Jan 1 the only pediatrician office in town was leaving my employer insurance. We moved my wife to Bryan ISD but they told her if there were complications during delivery those would be excluded. It can be difficult here sometimes.

I've looked at the exchange a couple of times but not recently. First time was with my then 19 year old son who was on his own and not in college so not eligible to be on my insurance. He didn't make much money then so he qualified for a heavy subsidy which made it appealing financially. In the end he decided to go uninsured because the TWO plans were poor. HMO plans with a whopping two primary doctors in network and those doctors had bad reviews regarding things like speaking English. There was no urgent care in network, the closest one was in Magnolia. Even at the heavy subsidy they were not worth what he was going to pay for them.

Second time was for me and my wife about four years ago. We're self employed and she was leaving CSISD so had to be on the same plan as me which meant I wanted to shop more. Same exact experience as with our son. Poor plans with very small networks of doctors that aren't well reviewed. Remember that whole "gonna save $2500 and you get to keep your doctor" nonsense? Called BS way before it passed.

Obamacare as a law was an unmitigated disaster for self employed people. Easily the worst law in my lifetime from that perspective. My premiums quadrupled while the risk I took on went up 30%, all within the first less than five years. Prior to that law passing I had over 20 plans to choose from with low premiums and reasonable exposure. My last year pre-Obamacare I had a Blue Cross HDHP with a $5000 maximum for $130/month. Less than five years later the maximum was $6500 and the premiums were $526. That was the last year I bought compliant insurance.

What the $0 mandate created was non-compliant plans where the consumer could actually choose what they wanted their plan to feature. High or low deductibles, big or small networks. Up front risk or back end with annual or lifetime limits. Obamacare killed competition until the $0 mandate brought some of it back. Biden killed catastrophic plans but still there is at least some competition remaining.
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Is paying cash not an option?

You said "needs."

She can call around and see how much the cash price will be for annual well woman. Labs can also be paid in cash.
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Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy said:

Is paying cash not an option?

You said "needs."

She can call around and see how much the cash price will be for annual well woman. Labs can also be paid in cash.


People use healthcare and health insurance interchangeably. OP is looking for advice on health insurance.
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I deleted what would have clarified what I was talking about. Sorry.

With the penalty being gone for not having insurance, is it necessary for someone her age and "healthy?"

I'm not anti-insurance by any means. I just know the cash price can be very affordable. With what was described about her all I see is an annual well woman exam and labs.

I have no idea about dental or vision.
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Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy said:

I deleted what would have clarified what I was talking about. Sorry.

With the penalty being gone for not having insurance, is it necessary for someone her age and "healthy?"

I'm not anti-insurance by any means. I just know the cash price can be very affordable. With what was described about her all I see is an annual well woman exam and labs.

I have no idea about dental or vision.


Yeah that's a good question. Not sure I would be willing to pay these prices for a qualified plan at 26. Like I said, worst bill in my lifetime.
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https://www.medishare.com/

My family of 4 (1 elementary and 1 middle school aged at the time) used Medi-share for a few years when I was self employed. Not much to add since we didn't have any major medical needs during our time with Medi-share, but it could be a viable option.

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OlRock said:

https://www.medishare.com/

My family of 4 (1 elementary and 1 middle school aged at the time) used Medi-share for a few years when I was self employed. Not much to add since we didn't have any major medical needs during our time with Medi-share, but it could be a viable option.




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Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy said:

I deleted what would have clarified what I was talking about. Sorry.

With the penalty being gone for not having insurance, is it necessary for someone her age and "healthy?"

I'm not anti-insurance by any means. I just know the cash price can be very affordable. With what was described about her all I see is an annual well woman exam and labs.

I have no idea about dental or vision.

I agree. Health insurance is a scam and does nothing but drive up healthcare costs. You can usually get a better deal paying cash.

But, one car accident, or even a bad trip and fall, can make a 5000 premium with 5000 deductible seem like chump change.

The military covers all my healthcare needs. But if I was self employed, I would look for plans that only covered catastrophic things (trauma, heart attack, cancer, etc). Would pay cash for anything that was routine.
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Based of age and good health it might be a good decision. But like you said one major accident and you have to have insurance.

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I'm going through this process right now as an early retiree and my wife being self-employed (LLC party of 1). You can absolutely get primary care handled via concierge or cash cheaper than Obamacare because we are doing that now. We are paying out of pocket between $8-11K per year (depending on add-on services you want to do that year) for this vs $14-15K we would pay just in premiums on Obamacare with much worse access and you won't get most of below as part of Obamacare either.

For us, that $8-10k covers the following which is all in one service done on one day. It's pretty great.
- Bloodwork (anything you would get during your normal annual)
- Full head to toe derm evaluation
- Cardo stress testing
- Diet consultation / body fat analysis
- Eye check
- Ear check
- Mammograms
- Heart/cancer CT scan
- Prescriptions (obviously)


However, what we need for a supplement is a catastrophic plan which Obamacare killed. You have to <30 to get that. The Medishare idea above is intriguing, but I would effectively be paying $300-500 per month to get access to ER, hospitalizations, and surgeries. Does anyone else have any feedback or background on that plan?
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ACA subsidies are expiring at the end of the year unless congress extends it. You may end up with a substantial hike in price if that happens. I'd start shopping asap.
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GenericAggie said:

OlRock said:

https://www.medishare.com/

My family of 4 (1 elementary and 1 middle school aged at the time) used Medi-share for a few years when I was self employed. Not much to add since we didn't have any major medical needs during our time with Medi-share, but it could be a viable option.




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I just signed up for this. $347 per month for wife and me with $12k "deductible". Obamacare was going to be $1,300-1,500 per month with same or worse deductible. I'm not expecting the providers on Medishare to be as good as I could get through my old insurance so keeping our concierge Primary care that is cash out of pocket.

I got this for dental and hospitalization / catastrophic. Best way I could find (for now) to cobble together health insurance without paying an arm and a leg through Obamacare. If I find something better, I just cancel this and switch but wanted to plug the hole we had for now.
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