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I live in Austin I've been mountain biking almost weekly since 2020. Lately I've found myself starting to think about the MS150 which means I'd need to get a road bike.

Can anyone tell me about their experience doing the MS150 and also what are some good, adequate road bikes I should look into that aren't terribly expensive. For reference, my trail bike is a Trek Marlin 8 hardtail.

Thanks!
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I've done MS150 a half dozen times now. First, understand it isn't a hard ride in the sense that you aren't competing with anyone and it isn't timed. It's a fundraiser, plain and simple. You can do it on a mountain bike, I see them every year. That would be harder than a road bike for sure but you can.

Second, if you're going to buy a road bike you probably want something in the endurance category. Trek Domane, Giant Defy. Something like that. The prices will vary wildly based on frame materials and gear set. Carbon is more expensive than aluminum with the trade off being weight. Dura Ace is much, much more expensive than Tiagra with the trade off being weight, longevity and the number of gears available to you.

A quick glance at Trek website shows a Domane AL4 Gen 4 with Claris gears and an aluminum frame for $1200. As a first road bike that's not a bad place to start. It's an aluminum frame and the lowest gear set they offer. That's basically what my first road bike was almost 10 years ago. I loved it and moved up into the $4k range in 2021 and love the bike I have now. If I were starting today that's where I'd start. Look for 32mm tires. Lot more comfortable ride than 25mm.

Good luck!
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I'd probably look for something used. The market is still flooded with bikes that people bought during covid. With a little patience, you can probably find a good deal on something that wasn't ridden very much.
ReloadAg
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Thanks y'all
El Presidente
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Buy used.

The new bike market is ridiculous.

You're in Austin, there's used bikes all around you.

I still ride my old roadies and can keep up with the new bikes without a problem. It's not about the bike.

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I'm getting rid of mine. Very low miles. Minor scratches

2019 Cervelo R2, size 58, navy with lime green
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Matching bottle cages

After years and years of primarily riding my tri bike, I had planned to do a lot more road riding and bought this beauty, but then hardly rode it. Ended up buying a mountain bike and the road bike is just sitting there with less a 1000 miles on it.
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ReloadAg said:

I live in Austin I've been mountain biking almost weekly since 2020. Lately I've found myself starting to think about the MS150 which means I'd need to get a road bike.

Can anyone tell me about their experience doing the MS150 and also what are some good, adequate road bikes I should look into that aren't terribly expensive. For reference, my trail bike is a Trek Marlin 8 hardtail.

Thanks!

I have ridden something like 19-20 MS150s. It is personal to me since I have MS (diagnosed in 2006), so thanks for considering riding! Most everybody has covered it pretty well, but the main thing is to start training and riding early and go out and do some group rides/1 day charity rides, etc. as part of your training so that you get used to riding at speed around lots of other people. I agree with the folks suggesting to look at used bikes, but I would try to have a good idea of what size you need before you go looking. Different models will fit differently, even within the same brand, so don't assume if you ride a 56cm Trek MTB, that you will automatically want the same in a Specialized or whatever.

Once you buy one, take it to a good shop to get fit to it. Being properly fit and positioned on your bike is a lot more important on the road than on a MTB because you are not typically getting up and down and changing positions all the time on a road bike. You are going to spend a lot of time in one position and need it to be ergonomically friendly.

Get the shorts. Yes I know, nobody wants to be the dork in lycra, but shorts (or preferably bibs) with a good chamois are your backside's best friend. Cycling gear is built for compression, lightweight fabrics, and good wicking because you will generate a lot of heat and sweat while riding and trying to ride any significant distance with a tshirt flapping in the wind and sweat pooling up in your shorts is just miserable.

Look around where you live for a team to join up with if possible. Most teams will do weekly training rides of some sort leading up to the ride weekend and the better ones will have some sort of support. You should plan to try to build up gradually to rides of 60-70 miles before ride weekend. I don't mean 60-70 miles without stopping, but riding 60 miles in a few hours should not be a huge deal by the time you are ready for ride weekend. There are break points along the route every 10-12 miles, so you should be ready to ride at least that far without needing to stop for a break, and you will do yourself a big favor if you get ready to ride 20 miles at a time since it will allow you to skip every other break point.

During the ride, the break points are a huge time suck. The volunteers at the break point will try to make you park your bike as far as humanly possible away from the water/snacks/portajohns, so it takes time to stop and fill bottles, take a leak, etc. If you can minimize that time, you will be ahead of the game. Also, don't dally at the break points. Once your legs are warmed up, you want to keep them that way. Standing around chatting for 15-20 minutes at the breakpoint will give your legs time to cool off and start to tighten up and it will hurt more to get started back up than if you stayed warm. But make sure you can drink easily while riding. Plan to empty at least 2 water bottles every 60-90 minutes while riding. If you wait and drink at the break points only, you will get very dehydrated in a hurry.

Most of all, have fun! Make some friends while training, learn to ride together and take turns with the stronger riders at the front giving you a chance to draft. It is so much easier and more fun to ride with a few people you know than riding alone. It is really a cool experience and a lot of fun, so try to not get so caught up in the technical details that you forget to smile and enjoy it a bit.
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How do they handle the course along the way? Is it just riding the shoulder of the road or do they close off roads? I think for me coming from trail riding, my biggest fear about road riding is being in close proximity to idiots in cars.
ReloadAg
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Got any pics? What were you thinking of asking for it?
txags92
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ReloadAg said:

How do they handle the course along the way? Is it just riding the shoulder of the road or do they close off roads? I think for me coming from trail riding, my biggest fear about road riding is being in close proximity to idiots in cars.

In the early parts when there are a lot of riders bunched up, they will close lanes or shut down sections of roads for a short time to let riders get down the road and spread out. Most of the rest of the course is just riding on road shoulders or two lane roads mostly single file. They publicize the route and put up signs on the road a week or so in advance and most vehicles just avoid the route on ride day. They have a lot of SAG vans and other emergency vehicles travelling the course with the riders and they kind of act to slow down anybody who might get in too big of a hurry and do something stupid. The possibility is still there, but I would say of the vehicle bike incidents I have seen, they are usually the cyclist being an idiot, not the driver. They do have cops controlling traffic at all the intersections and route turns so there is very little danger there.
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Lots of great advice, recommendations, and experiences are posted above. No need to repeat everything previously posted but I'll start here.

I rode my first two MS150's on a Raleigh M60 MTB hybrid and just switched out the knobby trail tires for "skinny" road tires and also replaced my pedals with clipless pedals. Huge game changer! I did OK on the MS150 routes compared to my other teammates on their road bikes, and actually outdid them in the hills. I trailed them on the long straightaways but as a previous poster said, it's not a race but a charity ride.

I later purchased a used Trek 1500 road bike after I went through a bike fit which is a MUST! You can always modify parts/components later but definitely get a bike fit and choose a good, reputable brand of road bike. If you find out that you really like road riding, you can always upgrade to a higher-end road bike in the future.

Good luck on your road bike search, and your dedication to helping folks with MS!!!

See ya next April 25 & 26 on the road!

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Canyon Aeroad, duh
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ReloadAg said:

How do they handle the course along the way? Is it just riding the shoulder of the road or do they close off roads? I think for me coming from trail riding, my biggest fear about road riding is being in close proximity to idiots in cars.

Honestly your biggest fear should be other riders - there are a lot of riders who are in it for the cause and therefore haven't properly trained and have no idea how to ride in a crowd. I've done 8 MS150s and the worst problem I had was at the beginning right after a mass start. I ended up over the handlebars and on the ground due to an inexperienced rider + no room to maneuver away from her. Had to sag to the first rest stop, buy a new helmet and get my bike checked before completing both days. I am much more skittish now when riding in a group.

So be wary especially of the first 10 miles or so and give yourself extra room (in addition to joining a team and riding weekly with a lot of other people around). Also be extra alert around the rest stops due to the mass grouping, starting, stopping, etc.
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88planoAg said:

ReloadAg said:

How do they handle the course along the way? Is it just riding the shoulder of the road or do they close off roads? I think for me coming from trail riding, my biggest fear about road riding is being in close proximity to idiots in cars.

Honestly your biggest fear should be other riders - there are a lot of riders who are in it for the cause and therefore haven't properly trained and have no idea how to ride in a crowd.

this. 100% this.

My wife and I did 5 MS150s before we had kids (her mom has MS), and the other riders were always the biggest fear. Keep your head on a swivel.

That said, its a lot of fun. go fast, go slow. blow through rest stops, hang around for 20 minutes and eat a snow cone. Its all up to you. Our kids are getting old enough now that we've been talking about starting to do the MS150 again. Its a lot of fun and its for a great cause.
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I like the idea of throwing some road tires on my Marlin and rocking that instead of buying another bike that I don't have room to store. Honestly beyond a big event like the MS150, I don't know if I see myself road riding much. It's always seemed boring to me when I've done it a small bit here and there. With riding trails, your mind is more engaged and 10 miles on the trails seems way shorter than 10 miles on road or gravel.
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