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Lifting over 40 (closer to 50)

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aggiesed8r
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Been a long time lifter. Not new to the game. Recovery is a whole new game at my age. Anyone else have experience at lifting/strength training at wiser ages?
Dumbbells are my friends and the barbell is less friendly. Things hurt more often. Learning not to push through pain like i could 10-20 years ago. Anyone else with any thoughts? Things you do different?
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Mine has been the expensive option but absolutely the best money I have ever spent on fitness: get a Tonal.

I'm 51 and have had one for 3 years. The ability to craft my workouts, adjust the weight in such slight increments that you can consistently progress, and most importantly, do them safely because you can get in position before activating the weight as well as deactivating it.
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aggiesed8r said:

Been a long time lifter. Not new to the game. Recovery is a whole new game at my age. Anyone else have experience at lifting/strength training at wiser ages?
Dumbbells are my friends and the barbell is less friendly. Things hurt more often. Learning not to push through pain like i could 10-20 years ago. Anyone else with any thoughts? Things you do different?


We have a weightlifting thread.

I would suggest learning to squat, bench, and deadlift. You don't have to go balls crazy, but strengthening those movement patterns will do good things for you.

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Hoosegow
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Body tempering - look up on youtube body tempering Donnie Thompson.

Push a sled, not heavy.

Go for a walk. You'd be surprised how much this helps.

Depending on how you hurt, glucosamine + chondroitin. Didn't work for me. Helped my sister out a lot. Have had several people report back that it worked for them.

Creatine seemed to help for me.

Vitamin T if all else fails.
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I've only been 40 for a month, but recently finally started doing mobility work each day and having it inform more of my workouts instead of just trying to grind through heavy lifting. I was tired of feeling wrecked after squats or deadlifts and have already noticed some positive signs in how I move and feel.
Matsui
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same!
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I'll be 49 in a little over a week. First started lifting weights consistently when I was 13. Did some competitive powerlifting when I was young as well. There have been times in my life when I haven't lifted consistently, and from my late 30's up until a few years ago I was more focused on things like yoga (still lifted sporadically). Then 3 years ago this spring, my son who is now 16, got me to start taking him to the gym. He's now a competitive powerlifter. We do the same workouts that I put together for us. That includes low rep, heavy weights fairly regularly.

I'll just say this (stating the obvious), everyone is different and you have to listen to your body and work within the confines of what it will let you do. I definitely spend a lot more time before and after workouts to alleviate soreness / tightness and also incorporate more specific movements to help with lower back and shoulders to keep them healthy, among other things.

I'll keep doing it as long as my body keeps cooperating
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Tonal has been life changing for me in my 50s. Creatine and T gel help as well. I'm stronger now than I was in my 20s playing college lacrosse.

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DannyDuberstein
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Yeah, we all know progression is key to gaining strength, and as far as I've seen, Tonal is unmatched in how effectively it does progression - so gradually and automatically. It keeps pushing you a hair more and a hair more. And the "personal best" alerts that go with that are motivating. With many others, it always feels like I get to a spot where I just plateau or I risk injury to make that next leap because I'm having to jump 5-10 pounds at once
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I've noticed a big difference after about 35 in my recovery time, ability to gain muscle or strength, and general energy levels. And over the past few months I've started doing some light weights, as well more core/mobility work, using some cables and machines with shorter ranges of motion that don't put my joints in potentially weak positions under load. Seems to be helping.

Also, I've been seeing ads for Speediance. Supposed to be a subscription free alternative to Tonal. Seems to have some cool features. Also doesn't require wall mounting.
aggiesed8r
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I appreciate the weight lifting thread, but i hate sifting through all that for age related lifting.
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I'm (almost) 55 and have been a personal trainer for 30 years. I've seen it in the older guys I've trained and now in myself. Here's my advice:

  • prioritize mobility (some days that's all I do)
  • increase movement variety (change planes of motion, incorporate gymnastics, kettlebells, etc.)
  • vary rep ranges/loads/speeds
  • prioritize mobility (yes, it's that important)
  • use barbells sparingly
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45 here. Just my personal experience:

Ive exercised in one form or another since high school.

The last 5-6 years i have shifted to a much more balanced regime.

I still lift most of the same compound movements that I have for years. I still try and get stronger every day.


Instead of lifting 5-6 days a week I've found I need more recovery so now I lift 3-4 days a week. On the days I don't lift I'm doing other types or workouts like mobility or running.

I walk way more now than before. I average 12-13000 steps for the last several years.

I prioritize sleep now more than ever.

My diet hasn't changed much. Still mainly protein, fruits and vegetables as much as I can.

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I'm 44. Still do the big compound lifts and try to push my rep counts and load. I've limited lifting to 3 days a week and that alone has aided immensely in recovery and performance in the gym. Also… warming up is your friend in this space. I do warm ups in to bigger sets for practically everything. Sure… it means more time in the gym, but it ensures you keep good form and limit injuries too.
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Isometrics and eccentrics!

Bump the weights down and go smooth, slow, and controlled.

Own your positions - keep your technique clean.
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I am 49. Been doing CrossFit or similar type training for about 15 years. I went from obese and badly out of shape at 35 to healthy and fit over about 7 years and maintained it.

I peaked strength development wise at about 45. I was going hard with CrossFit related training up to that point and doing fine but my recovery time was slowly getting longer. I got to a point where it was keeping gains and working on targeted aspects of fitness than getting stronger.

I have slowly shifted to CrossFit related fitness competition race training. DEKA and Hyrox mostly. Lots of the same elements but more cardio and sustained effort focused and less emphasis on Olympic lifting. It's more about being able to do "work" for 1-2 hours at a steady sustainable pace. It has helped my overall fitness. 5'9" and been at a pretty built and trim 160 for several years.

All this time I have been able to work out 1-1.5 hours a day 6 days a week, sometimes 5. It was a slow steady buildup to that but with good training programming, you can stay healthy and get sufficient recovery with no major injury. You have to learn proper and safe lifting techniques and loading and good coaching can really help. Diet and sleep also matter. And with age, you will need to make sure you warm up, stretch, and focus on your mobility work. Your body can still do it. You will just be a bit more limited than you were in your youth.
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Use your common sense and know when you are close to your limits. It never hurts to use wrist wraps, a lifting belt, neoprene knee supports, or whatever to aid in your stability when going heavy on lifts. And if it hurts, don't do it and find out why.
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Have you thought about getting some kettle bells and a weight vest? You can get a great workout with kettle bells and a weight vest in a very short amount of time. Lots of workouts and ideas all over YouTube and Instagram.
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I just turned 46. I still lift as intensely as ever, but I can't do the weight that I used to do. Just accepting that has been hard but key. I'm still pretty much all compound barbell movements. I definitely deal with constant injuries, but my recovery is about the same. My conditioning is still great to be honest. I look at least as good as I ever have, but without heavy muscle. I really had to start being more conservative with the weight starting at around age 40.
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AggieLAX said:

I'm (almost) 55 and have been a personal trainer for 30 years. I've seen it in the older guys I've trained and now in myself. Here's my advice:

  • prioritize mobility (some days that's all I do)
  • increase movement variety (change planes of motion, incorporate gymnastics, kettlebells, etc.)
  • vary rep ranges/loads/speeds
  • prioritize mobility (yes, it's that important)
  • use barbells sparingly


Mobility? Is that just movement (walking and basic activity)? Or is it more specific like yoga, stretching, Pilates? Not sure how wide of a topic that is.
Pahdz
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Third recommendation here for a Tonal.

I'm 46 and have had mine almost two years. Sold all my free weights and rack we had in the basement that we'd owned forever.

It challenges me with movements I never bothered with. I'm a busy guy and it takes the programming and guess work off my plate so I just pick programs and go.
aznaggiegirl07
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How good is your sleep?
AggieLAX
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1988PA-Aggie said:

AggieLAX said:

I'm (almost) 55 and have been a personal trainer for 30 years. I've seen it in the older guys I've trained and now in myself. Here's my advice:

  • prioritize mobility (some days that's all I do)
  • increase movement variety (change planes of motion, incorporate gymnastics, kettlebells, etc.)
  • vary rep ranges/loads/speeds
  • prioritize mobility (yes, it's that important)
  • use barbells sparingly


Mobility? Is that just movement (walking and basic activity)? Or is it more specific like yoga, stretching, Pilates? Not sure how wide of a topic that is.

Great question and this is where a lot of confusion lies.

When I say mobility, I'm talking about the ability of INDIVIDUAL joints to move freely, fully, and under control through their entire range of motion.

Yoga, stretching, Pilates, etc., involve multiple joints simultaneously which makes them great for general movement but terrible for diagnosing or fixing the weak, stiff, or dysfunctional joint that's actually causing your problems. This goes for movement screens as well.

Let's say you score poorly on an Overhead Deep Squat or can't get into a Yoga position, or the Bench Press kills your shoulder - that doesn't tell you WHY. It only tells you the global pattern fails - not which joint(s) is/are to blame. And without knowing that, you can't fix anything.

Most people do more of the failing pattern which only reinforces the dysfunction and increases injury risk.

When you assess individual joints, you can pinpoint the issue instantly:
  • Is it ankle mobility that keeps ruining the squat?
  • Is it hip rotation that's killing your low back?
  • Is it the shoulder capsule that keeps sabotaging your pressing?
Once you know the exact joint that's the bottleneck, fix it and everything else improves.

Everything else is accommodation.
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52 next week. I moved over to mostly body weight stuff with some dumbbell stuff mixed in several years ago.

Barbells are a no go for me as well as certain movements - eg deadlift.

I want a Tonal though. I bought a piece of equipment a few years ago that I now regret. Tonal is what I really want but wasn't aware of it at the time. Going to sell what I have and get one of those.
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YouBet said:

52 next week. I moved over to mostly body weight stuff with some dumbbell stuff mixed in several years ago.

Barbells are a no go for me as well as certain movements - eg deadlift.

I want a Tonal though. I bought a piece of equipment a few years ago that I now regret. Tonal is what I really want but wasn't aware of it at the time. Going to sell what I have and get one of those.

Can I send you a referral code?
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Pahdz said:

YouBet said:

52 next week. I moved over to mostly body weight stuff with some dumbbell stuff mixed in several years ago.

Barbells are a no go for me as well as certain movements - eg deadlift.

I want a Tonal though. I bought a piece of equipment a few years ago that I now regret. Tonal is what I really want but wasn't aware of it at the time. Going to sell what I have and get one of those.

Can I send you a referral code?


Sure!
DannyDuberstein
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YouBet said:

52 next week. I moved over to mostly body weight stuff with some dumbbell stuff mixed in several years ago.

Barbells are a no go for me as well as certain movements - eg deadlift.

I want a Tonal though. I bought a piece of equipment a few years ago that I now regret. Tonal is what I really want but wasn't aware of it at the time. Going to sell what I have and get one of those.


Tonal is buy once, cry once, but once you have it, there will be no regrets. I had a bench, bar, dumbbells, lots of weight plates - took me about 1 week to decide to sell all of it after the Tonal showed up 3 years ago. Not one minute of regret
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bigtruckguy3500 said:

I've noticed a big difference after about 35 in my recovery time, ability to gain muscle or strength, and general energy levels. And over the past few months I've started doing some light weights, as well more core/mobility work, using some cables and machines with shorter ranges of motion that don't put my joints in potentially weak positions under load. Seems to be helping.

Also, I've been seeing ads for Speediance. Supposed to be a subscription free alternative to Tonal. Seems to have some cool features. Also doesn't require wall mounting.

just bought one of these because of the Black Friday promo.

The $60/month fee to keep the Tonal from being a paperweight turned me off. Looks like a really cool machine but couldn't justify the difference.

I'll report back on my Gym Monster. Hoping to get my son into resistance training as well.
Pahdz
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There's a pretty big group of Tonal users that use exclusively custom built workouts and not paying the monthly subscription.

I'd say if you're good enough at building your own programs you could skip the subscription.
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Pahdz said:

There's a pretty big group of Tonal users that use exclusively custom built workouts and not paying the monthly subscription.

I'd say if you're good enough at building your own programs you could skip the subscription.


I have to make a decision tomorrow. Only thing holding me back is how I get my current equipment out of the way before Tonal got here. I might have to find some local "workers" to come get it. lol.
Pahdz
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I cut a sweet deal to one of my customers to buy my rack, bar and free weights for $300

Taking the damn rack apart was a slog. Getting it up the stairs from the basement was worse.
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Pahdz said:

I cut a sweet deal to one of my customers to buy my rack, bar and free weights for $300

Taking the damn rack apart was a slog. Getting it up the stairs from the basement was worse.


Yeah, my issue is that we live in a small town and fairly remote. Don't know anyone local so I'm going to have to get creative.
Pahdz
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Local school or athletic program that may be interested?
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Pahdz said:

Local school or athletic program that may be interested?


Good call. Based on what I see on Tonal site I'm going to have 2-3 weeks to figure it out before delivery anyway.
Diggity
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Seems like the machine is pretty limited as far as storing workout history/progress. Wouldn't want to spend that much knowing how handicapped the machine becomes.

You also have to pay for a year up front so no way around that.

Just don't want another monthly aub.
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