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Moose, how do we get more effort?

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I am a Moose fan or certainly want to be. Thing is, his entire career seems so up and down. He completely disappears for multiple games and then shows up.

What I have observed is a player who takes plays off. Seems if he isnt getting the ball that his effort level is a bit compromised. Giving up on plays that could help his QB or fellow ball runners.

Seems as a veteran this should have been coached out of him. Maybe a behind the scenes reason why he and Jimbo didnt have the best relationship.

Moose is a vital offensive weapon. If Elko and staff can only get through to him. He needs to give every play 110% until the whistle blows. Quit anticipating when he thinks a play is over. Quite frustrating to see on occasion.

Moose, just dont quit on a play!!! Season still early. Lets clean some of this up and play with intensity every play, all the time. That's part of a championship level team. Just some positive critical love. GigEm!
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Have to refigure his NIL deals to be paid out by effort play obviously.

Honestly, at this point, its down to work ethic and if he doesn't change it, his college years will be the last years of football he plays
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It's almost like there was a reason he hasn't gotten a lot of playing time despite his potential.
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People are who they are. Talented guy, but something is obviously not working out.
AgOutsideAustin
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If coaches are talking about players doing the right things in practice and fans are asking for more effort it's obviously all on Moose, sleeves or not.

Two staffs now and years later and he can't be on the field much at all.

So much talent too, it's on him though.
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He still doesn't get it and he's been out of HS for some time now. Someone like Von Miller needs to have a 1 on 1 with him. He needs a mentor
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If you are having to "refigure" an NIL deal to motivate a player(which I think is a silly take), that player is cooked as the young kids say.
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Seems to be Speedy 2.0
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IDK if you're referring to the near interception where Moose doesn't move on his route but that seemed like a scheme play where he was setting a "pick". It would appear that his job was to pick the underneath corner so the drag could get open
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

He still doesn't get it and he's been out of HS for some time now. Someone like Von Miller needs to have a 1 on 1 with him. He needs a mentor
You mean like an NFL dad?
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saw em off said:

Seems to be Speedy 2.0
Wow Speedy Noil had tremendous talent
Aggie Dad 26
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Craigy said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

He still doesn't get it and he's been out of HS for some time now. Someone like Von Miller needs to have a 1 on 1 with him. He needs a mentor
You mean like an NFL dad?


He needs someone other than his own father or our coaches. He's 20 years old? Nothing so far has gotten through
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

He still doesn't get it and he's been out of HS for some time now. Someone like Von Miller needs to have a 1 on 1 with him. He needs a mentor


if only he had like a father or something who played in the NFL
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He had an absolutely huge catch last week. Just enjoy while he's still here.
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Craigy said:

saw em off said:

Seems to be Speedy 2.0
Wow Speedy Noil had tremendous talent
But Speedy preferred the wacky tobacky over football
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He doesn't put much effort into blocking either.

Another receiver (#3 I think- Thomas) just jogged through some long timing routes last game. I think he was so used to Connor not throwing those that he was surprised (twice) to be targeted and was jogging along then saw the ball in the air but it was too late to catch up.
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An example of how upside down idiotic this country/world has become:

We're living in some kind of alternative universe where.......
If you really want to know about all things football, you should ask an Aggie football fan - they have won so many championships in the past 80 years they are in the know, they really know football. They are who you should ask.

ok, if the laughter fades off and you realize how ridiculous it is to make statements about Aggie players who haven't set the world on fire with receiving yards.......maybe start with "Does He Have to Throw Himself the Passes?"
If he does, then you can criticize him. Otherwise, I'd agree for the first time in my memory with rootube.
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AgLA06 said:

It's almost like there was a reason he hasn't gotten a lot of playing time despite his potential.


I just don't understand why that is though. He has so much potential. He could be a legitimate NFL WR. He takes over games whenever he is giving effort. I can't comprehend why he wouldn't want to give 110% every play, considering this is his last season. It's almost as if he's just going through the motions sometimes.
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KidDoc said:

He doesn't put much effort into blocking either.

Another receiver (#3 I think- Thomas) just jogged through some long timing routes last game. I think he was so used to Connor not throwing those that he was surprised (twice) to be targeted and was jogging along then saw the ball in the air but it was too late to catch up.
Just sounds like another reason why CW would be struggling.
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wangus12 said:

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Honestly, at this point, its down to work ethic and if he doesn't change it, his college years will be the last years of football he plays
I think he will make it to th NFL. And he knows it, because of legacy. How long will he be there, impossible to say. Could he have gone pro last year? But just as easily, his college years could be his last football years.
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Hello Speedy Noil
greg.w.h
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Went sideways with a head coach and fans enabled him. You get what you caused…
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KidDoc said:

He doesn't put much effort into blocking either.

Another receiver (#3 I think- Thomas) just jogged through some long timing routes last game. I think he was so used to Connor not throwing those that he was surprised (twice) to be targeted and was jogging along then saw the ball in the air but it was too late to catch up.
This! I couldn't understand why Thomas just seemed to quit on the route a few times.
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Cyrus Allen is pulling his weight and we are waiting for more to step up. Our transfers are starting to get more touches in games and I suspect we will continue to see this. Jimbo's WRs did not show much discipline and it shows.

One of the biggest things that has stood out about the transfers is their downfield blocking. Its a huge difference compared to Jimbo recruited guys that aren't even running their routes with effort.
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I don't know why Moose always seems to have a short leash. But he is the best receiver we have in terms of getting separation, catching the ball and getting yardage after the catch. He's been playing more and I'm all for it. In terms of the one play where he appeared to be screening a defender and the ball got thrown his way…that happens. I didn't see it as a lack of effort.
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If you're wondering how to get more effort out of a senior in his 5th year, it's probably not going to happen.
P.U.T.U
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Watch more film, he takes plays off and not just running plays. He jogs or stops routes early
TyperWoods
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Put his sleeves in the end zone. Maybe have a Yell Leader hold them out so he can see they are there.

Drawback is he possibly might not look back for the ball.
Meanmachine
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Great teams don't coach effort. You replace them with someone who gives it.
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P.U.T.U said:

Cyrus Allen is pulling his weight and we are waiting for more to step up. Our transfers are starting to get more touches in games and I suspect we will continue to see this. Jimbo's WRs did not show much discipline and it shows.

One of the biggest things that has stood out about the transfers is their downfield blocking. Its a huge difference compared to Jimbo recruited guys that aren't even running their routes with effort.
I'm excited by Cyrus. He does appear to work hard every play and inspired ball. He'll need to clean up some of the mistakes but think he will ultimately be a big part of the team's success. Looking forward to see what he can do.
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His dad is one of the best WR's in his franchises history. If he can't mentor him, who can?
90ags
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VM didn't get it until Sherman pushed him, waited for him outside of classes, made sure he went to class and practice, etc. etc.

VM didn't have a mentor he sought out, but Sherman forced himself into VM's routine that changed him. Sherman knew he was important and invested a lot of time in him (Von will tell you that).

Only wish someone did that with JFF too as would have pushed him the right way (maybe -- there were some attempts). Same with Speedy, but both under Sumlin years (lots of great kids who moved on, but some just didn't want direction).

No comment on current players as unknown what is happening on those fronts, but HC / Staff are here to change culture and do have a get out of jail free card this year to make that happen regardless of W/L (for the BMA/powers that be -- if they can win a lot a games along the way, it's bonus and proves they are ahead of schedule).
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Any one have the play / plays we're talking about here on video? Was at the game and didn't see it.

I think he's one of the best when catching the ball - the worst for blocking or just effort all around. Who knows, maybe he's just uber talented, but really doesn't' care. Not everyone is motivated to be the best football player you can be.
DelValAg
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Rule #1
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SBDavis87 said:

An example of how upside down idiotic this country/world has become:

We're living in some kind of alternative universe where.......
If you really want to know about all things football, you should ask an Aggie football fan - they have won so many championships in the past 80 years they are in the know, they really know football. They are who you should ask.

ok, if the laughter fades off and you realize how ridiculous it is to make statements about Aggie players who haven't set the world on fire with receiving yards.......maybe start with "Does He Have to Throw Himself the Passes?"
If he does, then you can criticize him. Otherwise, I'd agree for the first time in my memory with rootube.


What an off the wall, rambling, ranting mess of a post. Because the team we cheer for doesn't win as much as other programs, you are stating with such extreme confidence that our fans can't possibly know football and diagnose the issues with our eyeballs? I don't know what team you cheer for, but please tell me the last time you influenced the on-field product one way or the other.
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