Reed's best is pretty dang good, but his worst is "lose to anybody" level of bad.

Unfortunately, he sits squarely in that horrible middle ground where he's unlikely to fix his problems, but he's also unlikely to have anyone come in to replace or even challenge him.

Your best bet would be somebody like Hart coming back and just looking amazing next year vs us land any meaningful transfer.

What is causing me ulcers from frustration:

1. Our WRs didn't look elite at all.
2. Our D looked average especially in the 2nd half.


I thought because of these two very aspects we would win, and they ended up being a liability.

Every team has a weakness. Even the best ones this year.

Reed, RB talent, DT power, and LB and safety speed are the biggest weaknesses.

Reed and the linebackers have a lot in common... You never know which one will show up.

Reed and the defense are very streaky. When they are on their game we can beat anyone but when off we can lose to anyone with a pulse.

The Run D is a HUGE problem. And if there is no Moss then EJ should be starting.

They're trying to make Reed a pocket passer, which is not when he is at his best.

He is at his best when he is on the edge, throwing and scrambling; it keeps the defense, not knowing what to expect.

With the field conditions the way they were, they should've started EJ Smith, who's more of a downhill runner. Owens was on ice skates the entire night.

Klein seems to lack the understanding of straightforward play calls sometimes. When it's third and two, you run your big running back, not throw a 40 yard pass. He gets too cute.

Artorias said:

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Run D has been prone to big plays all year

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And that's against everyone. Teams with bad run games gash us (see tu).

zooguy96 said:

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With the field conditions the way they were, they should've started EJ Smith, who's more of a downhill runner. Owens was on ice skates the entire night.

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If EJ got more carries and we ran more might have been a different outcome. Owens slipping and falling was not the answer.

Dumb ass false start penalties and an OC with zero game awareness.

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Reed, RB talent, DT power, and LB and safety speed are the biggest weaknesses.

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I agree, but damn, that's 80% of the team.

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Lack of difference makers at the LB position.

Horrible kicking game. Kickers can't consistently make FGs and the punter can't flip the field when needed.

I agree about marcel. I really like him but if he doesn't show Improvement or have a decent playoff run I think you have to have open competition and maybe bring in somebody to challenge him

Defense just doesn't create any turnovers. 3 interceptions and 6 fumbles recovered in 12 games.

I'm sure I'll get roasted for this one but I would love for us to bring in someone to challenge Reed for the QB position. When Elko anointed him the starter in the offseason and didn't look to upgrade in the portal I don't think it lit the fire under Reed to work on his accuracy.

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zooguy96 said:

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They're trying to make Reed a pocket passer, which is not when he is at his best.

He is at his best when he is on the edge, throwing and scrambling; it keeps the defense, not knowing what to expect.

With the field conditions the way they were, they should've started EJ Smith, who's more of a downhill runner. Owens was on ice skates the entire night.

Klein seems to lack the understanding of straightforward play calls sometimes. When it's third and two, you run your big running back, not throw a 40 yard pass. He gets too cute.

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I don't think Reed is best on the move. When he throws while on the move his throws lack velocity and accuracy. His physical attributes require a calm solid base using his bottom half for velocity. When he can't do that his throws fall short or off target. He should be a one or two read pocket passer and when neither reads are there he takes off running. That would be the best of both worlds. Keeps the defense honest, takes what there to take while also limits the off schedule poor decisions that lead to INTs

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npc said:

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Reed, RB talent, DT power, and LB and safety speed are the biggest weaknesses.

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I agree, but damn, that's 80% of the team.

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Yes and

Those groups all have strengths, but they NEED proper scheme. Last night was what happens when a coaching staff that has been excellent all year has an off night. The DTs are quick. The LBs and safeties are aggressive and fearless. The coaches have largely leveraged those strengths this year but last night Sark killed Elko. Id argue the RB room doesn't do anything particularly well, when Moss is injured.

Reed is a mediocre QB who has improved. This whole Heisman stuff was premature on several levels, but partially to blame as they are trying to hard (and he is trying to hard) to be more than he is at this stage of development.

LBs have been a weakness all yr that have been covered up or hidden as a weakness in most games.

For a dual threat QB he was at KState, I was not impressed with how Klein has developed Reed as a dual threat or the running game. For all of Elko's defensive experience/ prowess, the mobile QB gives problems to our defense and our LBs are meh. Let's see how we do in CFP play and post season recruiting.

The worst part is that I love the matchup with Bama. We would have beaten them. Georgia would have run the ball down our throat and outcoached us. Just can't imagine how Sark outcoached Elko. Baffling.

For those wanting Reed to run more - not sure he is sturdy enough for that unless he slides judiciously or puts on 20lbs of muscle mass.

So we have a Heisman Trophy candidate at QB and some of yall think he is the issue or a weakness on our team?



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This team has a lot of weaknesses:

QB is inaccurate compared to other high-level/modern QB's. He can make big plays running, but he's 180 lbs and is a non-factor in short yardage situations.

RB's sans Moss are very pedestrian. Owens goes down when a light breeze hits him and Smith probably runs a 4.8.

Craver has faded as the season has progressed. He isn't 100%, and isn't running away from DB's right now.

OL has 1 guy that will have a career on Sundays. They are experienced, but they don't have the talent to overwhelm talented defenses.

Kicking game is a big problem.

LB's & Safeties are slow. Edge DL can be exploited by running QB's.

The team is also good for ~5 dumb penalties a game.

All that said, both sides of the ball tend to have 1-2 quarters a game when they get "hot" and that has been good enough to beat most teams.

We overachieved this year based on what/who we got. That is a blessing and a curse.

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zooguy96 said:

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They're trying to make Reed a pocket passer, which is not when he is at his best.

He is at his best when he is on the edge, throwing and scrambling; it keeps the defense, not knowing what to expect.

With the field conditions the way they were, they should've started EJ Smith, who's more of a downhill runner. Owens was on ice skates the entire night.

Klein seems to lack the understanding of straightforward play calls sometimes. When it's third and two, you run your big running back, not throw a 40 yard pass. He gets too cute.

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I don't think Reed is best on the move. When he throws while on the move his throws lack velocity and accuracy. His physical attributes require a calm solid base using his bottom half for velocity. When he can't do that his throws fall short or off target. He should be a one or two read pocket passer and when neither reads are there he takes off running. That would be the best of both worlds. Keeps the defense honest, takes what there to take while also limits the off schedule poor decisions that lead to INTs

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he literally threw screen passes at the target's feet and 5 yards from their outstretched arms.

on a SCREEN PASS that was wide open

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Dumb ass false start penalties and an OC with zero game awareness.

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Agree. How dumb (or blind) do you have to be if you can't look at the ball and not move until you see the ball move? After all, you already know the snap count and the play.

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So we have a Heisman Trophy candidate at QB and some of yall think he is the issue or a weakness on our team?



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"Post less" - Ditto to you!

Especially if you think Reed is, or ever should have been, a Heisman candidate.

One weakness catching up with the team is the DT's. They just aren't very good against the run. Hicks is a junior and has yet to live up to the 5 star rating he had. Regis has disappeared as the season went on and isn't making very many plays. Onyedim has played the best of the bunch, but it hasn't been enough.

We could use some game wreckers at linebacker.

Kickers are sketchy. Not horrible, but we can upgrade.

Punting was great last night. His job was to make sure that Niblett couldn't return one. He did that perfectly.

Biggest weaknesses last night were play calling on both sides of field.

Klein abandoning the run was inexcusable. We played into Longhorn defense strength and did not target their weakness. Texas is missing two linebackers. Run the ball. Throw to tight end. You can always sprinkle in some deep passes to wideouts. But then you're going to strength of Horn defense.

Elko and defense play calling were stubborn and cost us the game. Texas O-line is suspect. We are great at getting pressure on quarterback or blowing up running plays. It means we might give up a big play occasionally but create a bunch of negative plays.

If we started off every drive with run or simple play action to tight end or running back in the flat, we win.

If we aggressively targeted backfield pressure from the start, we win.

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For a dual threat QB he was at KState, I was not impressed with how Klein has developed Reed as a dual threat or the running game. For all of Elko's defensive experience/ prowess, the mobile QB gives problems to our defense and our LBs are meh. Let's see how we do in CFP play and post season recruiting.

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Reed isn't a Klein scheme qb. Klein was a power qb. He ran Will Howard as a power qb. Klein's scheme is attack the edge with screens, reads, and jets then gash the middle with qb counters, powers, and midline reads. His passing game at KSU was predicted on drawing in the defense with said screens and the TEs over the middle. Reed has become noticeably better hitting the intermediate digs but his size and processing greatly impact his ability to quickly find those middle routes. Reed misses a lot of open guys, and not with inaccurate throws, rather, flat out not seeing them. Klein's offense wants a Byrum Brown, Lagaway type.

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Couldn't agree more on all points, even the Reed one. He put on no real weight and didn't improve on his deep ball really at all. He's largely the same player he was last season aside from another year of experience.

That's also on Klein for trying to make him a pocket passer instead of the RPO guy that he is.

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Some of you are just so incredibly over emotional that you make up things that aren't true. Reed has hit a ton of deep balls this year.

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So we have a Heisman Trophy candidate at QB and some of yall think he is the issue or a weakness on our team?



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They have been waiting all year for this. They tried to come out after SC first half and got laughed off the board.

Reed is 38.5% on throws of 20+ yards. Up from 27.8% last year.

For comparison, Julian Sayin is 64.7% on 20+ throws.

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tigerag said:

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Couldn't agree more on all points, even the Reed one. He put on no real weight and didn't improve on his deep ball really at all. He's largely the same player he was last season aside from another year of experience.

That's also on Klein for trying to make him a pocket passer instead of the RPO guy that he is.

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Some of you are just so incredibly over emotional that you make up things that aren't true. Reed has hit a ton of deep balls this year.

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And some of you are just so incredibly over protective of Aggie players because they're Aggies. He's also missed on a ton of deep balls this year. The point is he's inconsistent and it's still one of his biggest weaknesses that can be exploited.