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His offensive game plan was terrible
My opinion is that they both need to go.
I've been consistent. He is bad
pasquale said:
His offensive game plan was terrible
It was baffling.
I avoid temptation unless I can’t resist it.
Throwing a 40 yard incompletion on 3rd and 2 isn't good enough for you??
Take Note people wanting to just blame Klein:
The Defensive game plan was just as Bad as Klein's offense strategy.
Elko is the guru, So blame Elko just as much. He S___ the bed as well.
Therefore our overall Game Plan - Was weak and based upon fear...
It totally took away everything that we are good at on both sides of the ball.
Last night - We were not the aggressors that we have been all season.
We received all of the punches and never really delivered any blows...
The Defensive game plan was just as Bad as Klein's offense strategy.
Elko is the guru, So blame Elko just as much. He S___ the bed as well.
Therefore our overall Game Plan - Was weak and based upon fear...
It totally took away everything that we are good at on both sides of the ball.
Last night - We were not the aggressors that we have been all season.
We received all of the punches and never really delivered any blows...
Wisconsin_Ag said:
My opinion is that they both need to go.
This. 100-% Neither of these coaches are SEC quality. Horrible play calling, missing field goals, blocked punts. These guys need to go somewhere a little easier and learn before coaching against the big boys.
The sips are in Klein's head and have been for quite some time.
Texas A&M deserves an elite OC. Klein is definitely not elite.
More than anyone else Klein cost us that game last night.
I hate to say it but I think we need to think about getting a new OC. More than anyone else he's to blame for that loss. Look at what he did and didn't do:
Klein:
called scared
avoided deep drops
avoided vertical shots
kept going horizontal
attacked the wrong part of Texas's defense
didn't use play-action to punish a weak secondary
never put Texas corners in conflict
treated the OL like it was a liability
When your OC calls a game like that, it is not surprising you get an L. He can get away with that kind of crap against a team like Miss St but not a team with elite talent like Texas!
More than anyone else Klein cost us that game last night.
I hate to say it but I think we need to think about getting a new OC. More than anyone else he's to blame for that loss. Look at what he did and didn't do:
Klein:
called scared
avoided deep drops
avoided vertical shots
kept going horizontal
attacked the wrong part of Texas's defense
didn't use play-action to punish a weak secondary
never put Texas corners in conflict
treated the OL like it was a liability
When your OC calls a game like that, it is not surprising you get an L. He can get away with that kind of crap against a team like Miss St but not a team with elite talent like Texas!
I'm not going to defend anything A&M did against tu but Klein is an elite OC.
You don't know ball.
You don't know ball.
It's klein's fault we didn't how to tackle a 3rd rate running back or a qb w downs?
DFCURT said:
I'm not going to defend anything A&M did against tu but Klein is an elite OC.
You don't know ball.
That bomb on 3rd and 2 was not elite
My opinion: Klein is a really good OC. Some wtf moments the last few weeks but most of those are players making poor decisions. We have gotten away from 2 huge things that defined our success the first 9 weeks of the season - dominating, physical run game and safe throws to our stud WRs in space to let them get YAC.
Scheme: 6/10
Preparation: 8/10
Playcalling: 8/10
Is Klein in charge of Reed making bad reads, WR's dropping passes, or RB's falling down?
Scheme: 6/10
Preparation: 8/10
Playcalling: 8/10
Is Klein in charge of Reed making bad reads, WR's dropping passes, or RB's falling down?
Yup. Klein sees that logo and pisses down his leg.
The bigger problem is that Elko heard those plays get called and didn't do anything to stop it. Coupled with the fact that Sark appears to be his kryptonite, it ain't good.
The bigger problem is that Elko heard those plays get called and didn't do anything to stop it. Coupled with the fact that Sark appears to be his kryptonite, it ain't good.
DFCURT said:
I'm not going to defend anything A&M did against tu but Klein is an elite OC.
You don't know ball.
By this statement, neither do you.
DFCURT said:
I'm not going to defend anything A&M did against tu but Klein is an elite OC.
You don't know ball.
Give us some stats to prove your proclamation that he's "elite"; or is he "elite" because you say so.
Don't forget to give us your definition of "elite".
The ONLY valid ANNUAL goal for ALL Aggie Sports is a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!
Gig'em !
FTAC '73
UT defense was TWELFTH in the SEC BEFORE their best defensive player was out with an injury the entire game.
then another starter was out the first half for a targeting call.
that was shameful!
then another starter was out the first half for a targeting call.
that was shameful!
pasquale said:
His offensive game plan was terrible
As were defensive and ST plans
5 yards deep handoff when you need one yard. I know a lot of coaches love this style but to me it makes a zero sense to do it every time
Go out and hire Ole Miss' Charlie Weiss Jr.
DFCURT said:
I'm not going to defend anything A&M did against tu but Klein is an elite OC.
You don't know ball.
LOL. Do you honestly think an elite OC calls that RB pass against SC, which damn near cost us that game? That was literally the dumbest play call I've ever seen.
Reality check.
It's a team game. Can't just put blame on Klein.
Jimmy Jones said there are three phases. off. Def. And ST.
Have to win 2/3 to win a game. We lost all three phases.
The kicking game is absolutely atrocious. Can't make kicks. Can't flip the field.
Defense was gashed over and over by one of the worst running games in the sec.
Offense was loaded with mental mistakes and poor turnovers.
What exactly is the positive?
The record is great but it's against the bottom half of the sec. We've been winning most of those games every year.
We still can't beat the top half.
How do you think that's going to translate in the playoffs? It is unlikely we get past the second round. Possible. But odds are poor.
It's a team game. Can't just put blame on Klein.
Jimmy Jones said there are three phases. off. Def. And ST.
Have to win 2/3 to win a game. We lost all three phases.
The kicking game is absolutely atrocious. Can't make kicks. Can't flip the field.
Defense was gashed over and over by one of the worst running games in the sec.
Offense was loaded with mental mistakes and poor turnovers.
What exactly is the positive?
The record is great but it's against the bottom half of the sec. We've been winning most of those games every year.
We still can't beat the top half.
How do you think that's going to translate in the playoffs? It is unlikely we get past the second round. Possible. But odds are poor.
AngryAG said:
0-9 against the program in Austin.
Actually he's 3-9 all time against tu.
Ftu, FJS, & FGS.
I am all for having the best OC money can buy, so far all of you offensive savants please list all of the OC's out there who do better than 30+ in 10 games with:
A 62% passing QB
A pedestrian RB group without Moss
An OL with 1 NFL player
Kicking game is ****, so more pressure on offense
Who are the OC's that would guarantee better results?
BTW - the offense hasn't been the same since Craver got injured. He isn't running away from DB's and KC gets more attention. Then the lack of talent elsewhere becomes more apparent against talented teams.
A 62% passing QB
A pedestrian RB group without Moss
An OL with 1 NFL player
Kicking game is ****, so more pressure on offense
Who are the OC's that would guarantee better results?
BTW - the offense hasn't been the same since Craver got injured. He isn't running away from DB's and KC gets more attention. Then the lack of talent elsewhere becomes more apparent against talented teams.
King of the Dairy Queen said:
I'm not the biggest Klein fan, but the texags seesaw of Klein is either gods gift to football or the worst coach in history depending on that week's outcome is tiresome.
I really want to know how our special teams coach continues to draw a check because I've never seen it in such a dire situation
Klein would look OK if we had a decent offensive line and consistent performance on special teams.
But that's not the case.
We easily know two coach's heads that need to roll when it's time for heads to roll.
LMCane said:
UT defense was TWELFTH in the SEC BEFORE their best defensive player was out with an injury the entire game.
then another starter was out the first half for a targeting call.
that was shameful!
We should have used TEs and RBs out of the backfield nonstop that first half.
2thFixinAg said:
Reality check.
It's a team game. Can't just put blame on Klein.
Jimmy Jones said there are three phases. off. Def. And ST.
Have to win 2/3 to win a game. We lost all three phases.
The kicking game is absolutely atrocious. Can't make kicks. Can't flip the field.
Defense was gashed over and over by one of the worst running games in the sec.
Offense was loaded with mental mistakes and poor turnovers.
What exactly is the positive?
The record is great but it's against the bottom half of the sec. We've been winning most of those games every year.
We still can't beat the top half.
How do you think that's going to translate in the playoffs? It is unlikely we get past the second round. Possible. But odds are poor.
We have some great players, but our roster isn't deep. We're a different team with Moss and Craver healthy. We need improvements at LB and secondary. I hope our wins help our recruiting.
Before the season, fans were saying we were going to waste a favorable schedule and go 8-4. We've actually fared well, all in all. Let's regroup and see if we can rebound from this. I think we can.
I was only able to listen on the radio but I was really wondering about the base defense. It seemed we moved from a 4-2-5 to maybe a 3-3-5 or a 4-3-4? We should have the athletes to match up with almost anyone. Seemed to rarely get pressure and lost containment. Whatever it was meant to strengthen seems to create other problems unless it was more due to the calls being mis-timed. It's a chess match, sometimes one gets lucky, sometimes not so much. I get the value of springing something new on an opponent, however, maybe against arch-rival at night on the road might not have been the right choice. Muscle memory would be important in those circumstances I would think. Your observations and thoughts?
"Decent" may have been an uncharitable word choice, but no, I don't think they're great.
Too many penalties.
Too many penalties.
This is the first year in ages that the offense has had a pulse. Klein isn't the issue.
We tried to play like Mayweather when we should have channeled Tyson
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