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I see many absolute statements taking place on here about what they will do. Or what metric they have been using and assume it will be continued to be used.

That's just not the case. There's a reason they never publish specifics on criteria and metrics. It is so at the end of the day they can do whatever they like. Or more importantly what they are told to do by the power brokers in the game.

I do believe they will cluster the five one loss teams together, 3-7. Georgia will stay 3 but what they do 4-7 could be anything and they can state anything afterwards to try and justify it. And my guess the biggest driver will be what potential match ups the networks want for the quarter finals.

The only wildcard in the above scenario is Ole Miss losing their coaches. So this might be used to help a 2 loss team. We shall see what they do.
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There will be no logical explanation for putting Oregon ahead of A&M, and OP is right - they won't provide any explanation. I think we'll end up at 6, possibly 7 if they don't ding Ole Miss.
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There will be no logical explanation for putting Oregon ahead of A&M

Oregon is ahead of us in 5 of the 6 computers the BCS use to use.

In the ESPN SOS and SOR, we are 1 spot ahead of Oregon.

Why is it illogical for one to conclude they should be ranked ahead of us?




Now Texas Tech on the other hand, I'd love to hear the metrics used there! LOL

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Im Gipper said:


Oregon is ahead of us in 5 of the 6 computers the BCS use to use.



Just because it comes from a computer doesn't mean it's unbiased. GIGO
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LB12Diamond said:

I see many absolute statements taking place on here about what they will do. Or what metric they have been using and assume it will be continued to be used.

That's just not the case. There's a reason they never publish specifics on criteria and metrics. It is so at the end of the day they can do whatever they like. Or more importantly what they are told to do by the power brokers in the game.

I do believe they will cluster the five one loss teams together, 3-7. Georgia will stay 3 but what they do 4-7 could be anything and they can state anything afterwards to try and justify it. And my guess the biggest driver will be what potential match ups the networks want for the quarter finals.

The only wildcard in the above scenario is Ole Miss losing their coaches. So this might be used to help a 2 loss team. We shall see what they do.

Yes, they can and yes, they do.

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GrapevineAg said:

Im Gipper said:


Oregon is ahead of us in 5 of the 6 computers the BCS use to use.



Just because it comes from a computer doesn't mean it's unbiased. GIGO

100% agree!

The question stands. There is a legitimate basis to have Oregon above us, whether we agree or not.

So I am wondering why one would think it would be so illogical.

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Im Gipper said:

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There will be no logical explanation for putting Oregon ahead of A&M

Oregon is ahead of us in 5 of the 6 computers the BCS use to use.

In the ESPN SOS and SOR, we are 1 spot ahead of Oregon.

Why is it illogical for one to conclude they should be ranked ahead of us?




Now Texas Tech on the other hand, I'd love to hear the metrics used there! LOL

Both 1-loss teams. Their loss was at home, ours on the road at a ranked rival. USC at home is their best win. Our best win is on the road at ND.
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Thats a great reason to rank us ahead of them. I would.

But I am talking about your comment that there is no logical reason to have them ahead of us. I just don't think that is true at all!

There are good arguments either way!

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Im Gipper said:

Thats a great reason to rank us ahead of them. I would.

But I am talking about your comment that there is no logical reason to have them ahead of us. I just don't think that is true at all!

There are good arguments either way!

The committee so far (and most pundits have said) have gone on the "eye test" and not computer rankings to rank the teams. If they stick with that, I just don't see a reason to put Oregon over us. But, as OP stated, the committee can do whatever they want and then provide no explanation. If they value road wins, then A&M should be 5. We have one of the most impressive road records in CFB. We'll see I guess.
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Here's debates for all.

Not including Georgia bc if they win the SEC, they are going to be number 2 anyway.

Oregon,

Positives, wins over several ranked Big 10 teams. Loss to number 2.

Negatives, did not beat one team making the playoffs and lost at home.

Tech

Positives, won the Big 12. Killed most teams.

Negatives, bad loss Vs unranked team. Crap non conference schedule.

Ole Miss

Positives, Beat playoff team on road. Only liss is to number 3.

Negatives, crap non conference schedule.

A&M

Positives, beat playoff team on road. 3 ranked road wins. Team getting best offensive player back for playoffs.

Negatives, did not play any of the other 4 SEC playoff teams.
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Wabs said:

There will be no logical explanation for putting Oregon ahead of A&M, and OP is right - they won't provide any explanation. I think we'll end up at 6, possibly 7 if they don't ding Ole Miss.



Forget Oregon: Ole Miss has the worst SOS in the SEC and they will be ranked ahead of us. Watch.
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And they will.

ETA, TT also had a crap conference schedule. The big 12 is crap period.
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And if Bama stomps Georgia? Where do you put those two?
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Injuries were used to deny a 13-0 Florida State squad in 2023 so that the sips could sneak in.

Injuries were ignored to boost the 2020 ND team into the playoffs ahead of us, despite the fact that their marquee win was Clemson with Trevor Lawrence hurt. When they rematched in the ACC title game with Lawrence ND got demolished, but that result was disregarded.

Bottom line: it's not mathematical or scientific. The committee will do whatever they want to do. We'll be in the 5-7 range.
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Mostly agree.
1./2. = tOSU v Indiana Winner/Loser
3. = Georgia
4. = Tech - No way they give B1G 3 byes. Tech would be a lousy host.

5. A&M - A home game for A&M would be huge for txt sales and eyeballs
6. Oregon - Gotta host a game out West
7. Ole Miss - Give them the benefit of home field due to coaching losses
8. Notre Dame - Huge media coverage

9. Alabama visit to ND
10. BYU - Gives Ole Miss favorable
11. OU - Faces Oregon
12. Miami - They'll come to A&M. If they want to prove they deserve to be in, they'll get no favors.
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DallasAg 94 said:


Mostly agree.
1./2. = tOSU v Indiana Winner/Loser
3. = Georgia
4. = Tech - No way they give B1G 3 byes. Tech would be a lousy host.

5. A&M - A home game for A&M would be huge for txt sales and eyeballs
6. Oregon - Gotta host a game out West
7. Ole Miss - Give them the benefit of home field due to coaching losses
8. Notre Dame - Huge media coverage

9. Alabama visit to ND
10. BYU - Gives Ole Miss favorable
11. OU - Faces Oregon
12. Miami - They'll come to A&M. If they want to prove they deserve to be in, they'll get no favors.

You forget the auto-bids. Virginia gets the 11-seed if they win the ACC, and the Tulane/UNT winner would get the 12-seed unless James Madison is ranked higher. If Duke wins the ACC, then it's Tulane/UNT and JMU.

Things get more complicated if BYU wins the rematch. Teams aren't supposed to be punished for playing in their conference championship games. OU is likely the odd man out, unless Bama is blown out. Or, the committee could punish Ole Miss by dropping them to 11 and blaming the auto-bids for their being left out.

That five seed is a sweet spot for the first round, make no mistake. The six-seed is almost as good if Duke wins, and still not horrible if it's Virginia out of the ACC.
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Plug and Play. Swip Swap.
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UGA, UVA, Tard, OSU win:

1. OSU
2. UGA
3. Indiana
4. Tard
5. Oregon
6. A&M
7. Ole Miss
8. OU
9. ND
10. Bama
11. UVA
12. Tulane/NT/JMU
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They should ding ole miss but it would be such a bad look corporately.

They'll wait until after seccg to move them down.
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Wabs said:

UGA, UVA, Tard, OSU win:

1. OSU
2. UGA
3. Indiana
4. Tard
5. Oregon
6. A&M
7. Ole Miss
8. OU
9. ND
10. Bama
11. UVA
12. Tulane/NT/JMU


This would be awesome.

Oregon/Tceh would be an awesome matchup to watch.

Gives potential for A&M/IU matchup. What better way to settle the 5 week long " who deserves to be #2" question.
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Matchup wise that is a great path. Only negative is quarterfinal game might be in Miami.

Just to add to my other two posts on this thread. The 4-7 seeds could be anything and at the end of the day not really wrong no matter what they do. I could argue they got it right no matter the order of those 4 teams.
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Anything to avoid Alabama and ND in the first round. I think they both have a team capable of making a run and winning it all. Would suck to catch one of them in the first round. I'll take G5, Virginia, BYU, or OU please.
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If we get 7 seed, we might play one of them. It would a be a great game and at home we could beat either one of them,
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