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Goat Man
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Anyone know what our strength of schedule is from the Committee's perspective?
Watching the breakdown on ESPN they skipped analyzing the 7 spot for A&M.
TheDecadeSapling
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Bold of you to assume they actually analyzed us.

What they did was give us a bogey on the scorecard because we've always had bogeys. The fact we finally got a birdie is irrelevant to them.

IMO
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AggieDub04
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What a joke. So beating UNT would be more valuable than beating Missouri.
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Yeah it is dumb. He says it is close to what the CFP Committee uses, do not know their exact formula for SoS
Mr.Milkshake
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No way they're using that formula for SOS. Actually, it would make sense. Ha
Ugly
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If they are using a formula like that, somebody should be sued for malpractice. There is not enough P4 OOC scheduling for that to be even remotely close to being a useful metric. If somebody did try to use that formula, they would have to massively penalize any teams without a P4 OOC opponent to even come close to a reasonable outcome.
BMX Bandit
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There is no "if" about it. They've been using it for a decade. It's probably close to the worst possible way to judge schedule strength
FriendlyAg
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The whole thing is a total joke.
pilgrimshadow
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We have this system because the CFP is run by representatives of each FBS conference and Notre Dame, 11 votes of which the SEC is just one.

Yes, that means Notre Dame has an equal vote to the SEC as a whole, and also each one of the G5. They give the committee its marching orders.

Politically, they'll never agree to give the SEC schedules their due weight in SOS. The SEC needs a commissioner with balls of steel to negotiate that room, and it ain't Sankey.

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sports/2019/4/3/governance.aspx
beerad12man
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Mr.Milkshake said:

No way they're using that formula for SOS. Actually, it would make sense. Ha


Yes they are. It's to keep the sec from dominating the strength of schedule because we all know damn well the sec has about 15 of the top 25 hardest schedules in reality.

It only gets worse in 9 game schedules.
beerad12man
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Massey, Sagarin, fei, all have us closer to 16-20 for example. An "easy" sec schedule is still a hard schedule overall and most refuse to admit that

Actual analytical rankings that go beyond just a derp, they are 9-3, they are good opponent! Derp.
HoustonAg2106
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beerad12man said:

Mr.Milkshake said:

No way they're using that formula for SOS. Actually, it would make sense. Ha


Yes they are. It's to keep the sec from dominating the strength of schedule because we all know damn well the sec has about 15 of the top 25 hardest schedules in reality.

It only gets worse in 9 game schedules.


This absolutely has to be the reason. Just look at what the middle/bottom of the SEC does to the middle/bottom of other conferences.

Florida over Florida State
South Carolina over Virginia Tech
Mississippi State over Arizona State
LSU over Clemson
Auburn over Baylor
Missouri over Kansas


These are all teams that we are being penalized for playing because they struggled in the SEC yet won their matchups against other conferences. One can assume that they would have better records in the ACC and Big 12 and then our strength of schedule would magically be much higher
AcctAg11
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This is an insane way to measure SOS, and essentially assumes complete parity among the FBS, which is about as wrong as wrong can be.
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oysterbayAG
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The proof of how good we actually are will be how we perform in the playoffs !
bslater07
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HoustonAg2106 said:

beerad12man said:

Mr.Milkshake said:

No way they're using that formula for SOS. Actually, it would make sense. Ha


Yes they are. It's to keep the sec from dominating the strength of schedule because we all know damn well the sec has about 15 of the top 25 hardest schedules in reality.

It only gets worse in 9 game schedules.


This absolutely has to be the reason. Just look at what the middle/bottom of the SEC does to the middle/bottom of other conferences.

Florida over Florida State
South Carolina over Virginia Tech
Mississippi State over Arizona State
LSU over Clemson
Auburn over Baylor
Missouri over Kansas


These are all teams that we are being penalized for playing because they struggled in the SEC yet won their matchups against other conferences. One can assume that they would have better records in the ACC and Big 12 and then our strength of schedule would magically be much higher


This right here. They couldn't have come up with a dumber way of "calculating" SOS.
bslater07
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pilgrimshadow said:

We have this system because the CFP is run by representatives of each FBS conference and Notre Dame, 11 votes of which the SEC is just one.

Yes, that means Notre Dame has an equal vote to the SEC as a whole, and also each one of the G5. They give the committee its marching orders.

Politically, they'll never agree to give the SEC schedules their due weight in SOS. The SEC needs a commissioner with balls of steel to negotiate that room, and it ain't Sankey.

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sports/2019/4/3/governance.aspx

ND having a vote all to themselves should be grounds for dismantling the whole f-ing thing.
allenb
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The analytics they use are completely biased towards playing weaker competition and running up the score.

The SOS is dependent on the opponent wins and losses without any metric to evaluate or include the talent on the opposing team. Thus, Indiana is given more credit for beating 8-4 Iowa 710 talent composite, 8-4 Illinois 662 talent composite. Than we are for beating 5-8 Auburn 891 talent composite and 4-8 Florida 898 talent composite.

GC is skewed by running up the score. Tech is getting a large boost by putting winning by 20+ points per game when their opponents are weaker talent wise than our schedule.

So the moral of the story is put up 100 when you play Samford, don't pull the starters for GC, don't play difficult out of conference games but try to schedule bad teams that will do well in their home conference games to boost your SOS.
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