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W said:

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so the school makes more money

the players make more money

and the private equity investors make more money?

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and that money comes from???

yes, something seems amiss

Tramp96 said:

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I don't think this is where everyone is headed.

I think you have enough institutions who are smart enough to realize this is a deal with the devil and will not go down this route.

This will not end well for Utah, in my opinion. It's a payday loan, but the loan shark will get to move in with you and tell you how to live your life in order to make your interest payments to him.

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The second they start pursuing profit over winning, the fans are going to really hate this deal.

Tramp96 said:

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I think you have enough institutions who are smart enough to realize this is a deal with the devil and will not go down this route.

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In todays world of no patience or foresight, I'd be shocked if most don't adopt this. Fans will cry for doing what wins ballgames instead of doing what's right.for the University long term. But hey, we'll have a 128 team playoff so no one gets left out.

I don't know the % equity given up for each deal, but the Big Ten is considering $2.4B for the entire conference vs Utah raising $500M just for themselves. The Big Ten would be crazy to give up any amount of control for that number. Now if they were offering $1B per school to the Big Ten that would be something they'd have to consider.

curious what the PE firm thinks of Title IX

they will spend zilch on nonrevenue sports and maybe even cut some

W said:

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curious what the PE firm thinks of Title IX

they will spend zilch on nonrevenue sports and maybe even cut some

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The way I am reading that, the PE firm won't have to think about Title IX much, if at all as the university will remain on that hook. In the same manner that universities had to keep and eye and police their boosters. (Think SMU. Nothing happened to the actual boosters illegally paying out the money but the university was hammered.)

But I don't like this arrangement at all. I guess technically it is completely legal but is still very risky for the university athletics department and the university itself.

Texas 8&4 said:

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Look at the bright side...we will be owned by an Attorny and a Beaver

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LOL.

At some point major college sports (FB and bigger basketball programs) must be severed from academics. Athletes are students in name only. Does anyone in our 2-deep actually attend in-person classes anymore?

Programs obviously can/will use on campus facilities, and the Aggie FB team can still be affiliated with TAMU, but let's finally stop pretending that there's any connection between sports and education.

aggiehawg said:

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W said:

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curious what the PE firm thinks of Title IX

they will spend zilch on nonrevenue sports and maybe even cut some

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The way I am reading that, the PE firm won't have to think about Title IX much, if at all as the university will remain on that hook. In the same manner that universities had to keep and eye and police their boosters. (Think SMU. Nothing happened to the actual boosters illegally paying out the money but the university was hammered.)

But I don't like this arrangement at all. I guess technically it is completely legal but is still very risky for the university athletics department and the university itself.

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I imagine they'd take the AD and separate it from the university and do away with scholarships. Instead of schollies you'd have NIL paychecks and the athletes would have to pay for school out of that. I think that would render Title IX moot.

W said:

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curious what the PE firm thinks of Title IX

they will spend zilch on nonrevenue sports and maybe even cut some

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I wasn't a fan of this until just now.

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I imagine they'd take the AD and separate it from the university and do away with scholarships. Instead of schollies you'd have NIL paychecks and the athletes would have to pay for school out of that. I think that would render Title IX moot.

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Hmm. Might have to ponder that one for awhile.

Texas 8&4 said:

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Look at the bright side...we will be owned by an Attorny and a Beaver

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And with our military tie ins, at least our attorney has an actual tank.

The Sun said:

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aggiehawg said:

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W said:

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curious what the PE firm thinks of Title IX

they will spend zilch on nonrevenue sports and maybe even cut some

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The way I am reading that, the PE firm won't have to think about Title IX much, if at all as the university will remain on that hook. In the same manner that universities had to keep and eye and police their boosters. (Think SMU. Nothing happened to the actual boosters illegally paying out the money but the university was hammered.)

But I don't like this arrangement at all. I guess technically it is completely legal but is still very risky for the university athletics department and the university itself.

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I imagine they'd take the AD and separate it from the university and do away with scholarships. Instead of schollies you'd have NIL paychecks and the athletes would have to pay for school out of that. I think that would render Title IX moot.

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and the amazing thing that happens next is that eligibility limits goes poof

imagine how long johnny could have played at aTm, he would most likely still be playing LOL

and if you squint hard enough what you see is a viable, tangible and real existential threat to the NFL

W said:

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so the school makes more money

the players make more money

and the private equity investors make more money?

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In the long run it's probably just the third group on your list who actually makes more money

Bag said:

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its old white men

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Whatchu got against old white men?

Bag said:

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The Sun said:

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aggiehawg said:

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W said:

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curious what the PE firm thinks of Title IX

they will spend zilch on nonrevenue sports and maybe even cut some

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The way I am reading that, the PE firm won't have to think about Title IX much, if at all as the university will remain on that hook. In the same manner that universities had to keep and eye and police their boosters. (Think SMU. Nothing happened to the actual boosters illegally paying out the money but the university was hammered.)

But I don't like this arrangement at all. I guess technically it is completely legal but is still very risky for the university athletics department and the university itself.

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I imagine they'd take the AD and separate it from the university and do away with scholarships. Instead of schollies you'd have NIL paychecks and the athletes would have to pay for school out of that. I think that would render Title IX moot.

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and the amazing thing that happens next is that eligibility limits goes poof

imagine how long johnny could have played at aTm, he would most likely still be playing LOL

and if you squint hard enough what you see is a viable, tangible and real existential threat to the NFL

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No scholarships mean no scholarship limits? That won't work. We'll be back in the wild wild west days of the 60s and early 70s. Meat on the Hoof style.

In the end, the universities and certain PE groups/BMDs will own college athletics and will look exactly like the pro leagues. You'll be able to trade players, you'll be able to keep players for as long as you want, and you'll probably have salary caps in place along with long term contracts.

You will see the future versions of JFF and Vince Young types be college level players for a looooonnnnnggggg time when the above gets setup.

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Bag said:

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its old white men

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Whatchu got against old white men?

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nothing, but the comparison is vegas during the mafia era vs vegas during the corporate america era

Phatbob said:

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Bag said:

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its old white men

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Whatchu got against old white men?

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You ever stop and look around? Plenty to hold against old white men.

And I am one!

This makes me wonder if BYU and Ensign Peak advisors find a way to work together directly or through NIL opportunities. Talk about a war chest.

Buzzkill said:

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Phatbob said:

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Bag said:

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its old white men

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Whatchu got against old white men?

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You ever stop and look around? Plenty to hold against old white men.

And I am one!

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Tex117 said:

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Pandora's box has been opened.

Nike will soon own the Oregon Ducks.

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Soon? They have owned them for decades

Heisenberg01 said:

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I don't know the % equity given up for each deal, but the Big Ten is considering $2.4B for the entire conference vs Utah raising $500M just for themselves. The Big Ten would be crazy to give up any amount of control for that number. Now if they were offering $1B per school to the Big Ten that would be something they'd have to consider.

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Last I heard when the big ten broached this idea they were well down the path towards an agreement before 2 schools held everything up. They didn't like the idea of P/E being involved and know its a slippery slope.

Now that said, everyone, including universities have their price. Can P/E reach it?