When most your team is 3-stars and lower 4-stars (thanks to being Year 2 of a rebuild) who would be passed up on the depth chart already on most playoff-team rosters, that happens. Bigger concern is the QB and OL to me. QB has no excuse for being as awful as he was, and OL….we've been very mediocre at recruiting that position.

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And we played our worst 3 games the last three of the year (exclude Samford).

So what should I be getting excited about next year? I'm getting pretty tired of losing every game where something meaningful could actually happen. What's the hopium of watching next year why it will be different?

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I mean, they completed the games. So...they finished?

You're looking for a drug for the same disease the drug causes: delusion. There is NO such thing as hope when it comes to major college sports. Just like what happens next year has NOTHING to do with what happened the previous 100. Look at Indiana, look at Clemson (pre 2010)… just because something hasn't happened, doesn't mean it can't and just because something has happened doesn't mean it will.

Players got to make plays.
Past October, we didn't.

Curious to see what Elko does in the portal and the qb coach.

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The Marksman said:

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It's very fair to have major concerns about the culture Elko is fostering. Two end of season collapses in back to back years is not normal.

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Collapse.

You people are miserable.

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How I envision all of you that exaggerate people making innocuous comments as being miserable

The answer, for everyone else, is to stop responding to these people. If they want to be miserable, let them.

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Under Elko we played 4 games where we could have made the SECCG… we went 0-4

We played Texas twice… we went 0-2

We played on college game day twice… we went 0-2

We played a playoff game… we went 0-1 and scored 0 touchdowns

We're a complete joke being laughed at anytime there's actually something important and I guess I'm kind of wondering why everyone is so happy and optimistic. What is there about next year why that should all change and we might win one game that's relevant to post season expectations?

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Call 988

The Marksman said:

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fat girlfriend said:

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We've played LSU twice, we're 2-0 and blew them out at their place.

We've played at ND once. We're 1-0.

We played at home in the regular season 8 times. We're 8-0.

We had the first 11 win season in the history of the school.

We had the first playoff appearance in the history of tre school.

If you think this post is silly and unhelpfully just lumps all the good stuff together while ignoring the bad stuff, you're right. So stop doing the same thing in reverse. It's stupid.

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These are literally false statements

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Nah

Yeah the finish of this season is nothing to be happy about. But it's not hard to be optimistic regarding what was accomplished overall. Back to back wins versus Mizzou and LSU for the first time since the 90s. We normally would have dropped one of the two close games against Auburn and Arkansas. Do you think past teams would have overcome a 30 pt deficit? No. Give up a 30 pt lead yes, but certainly not pull of that kind of comeback. The ND win was first road win over a ranked opponent in over a decade. Point is there seems to be a culture change and some monkeys are off our back now. I'm able to recognize all of that AND the 0-2 ending.

A&M has only five 11+ win seasons in 130+ years of playing football. The first was 1939. Is it really that hard to be happy?

tk for tu juan said:

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1-1 against ND under Elko
1992 had 12 regular season wins
Only 7 regular season home games this year

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1-0 with Marcel

0-1 with a Big 12 QB

tk for tu juan said:

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1-1 against ND under Elko
1992 had 12 regular season wins
Only 7 regular season home games this year

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I said AT ND. 1992 was playing Rice, so doesn't count. Game at LSU was basically a home game. So I was right on all counts.

fat girlfriend said:

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tk for tu juan said:

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1-1 against ND under Elko
1992 had 12 regular season wins
Only 7 regular season home games this year

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I said AT ND. 1992 was playing Rice, so doesn't count. Game at LSU was basically a home game. So I was right on all counts.

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1992 Rice > 2025 Samford, try again

We're terrible! 8-4 is our ceiling.

<goes 11-2>

We're terrible! Lost our last two.

fat girlfriend said:

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The Marksman said:

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fat girlfriend said:

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We've played LSU twice, we're 2-0 and blew them out at their place.

We've played at ND once. We're 1-0.

We played at home in the regular season 8 times. We're 8-0.

We had the first 11 win season in the history of the school.

We had the first playoff appearance in the history of tre school.

If you think this post is silly and unhelpfully just lumps all the good stuff together while ignoring the bad stuff, you're right. So stop doing the same thing in reverse. It's stupid.

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These are literally false statements

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Nah

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Yes, they are very inaccurate. I don't even have to search to know that we went 11-2 in Manziel's first year to prove you're wrong here.

We have played at ND twice and split. Simple search can find this.

DTX_12 said:

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We're a complete joke being laughed at anytime there's actually something important and I guess I'm kind of wondering why everyone is so happy and optimistic. What is there about next year why that should all change and we might win one game that's relevant to post season expectations?

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If you truly feel this way, then I feel sorry for you and you should probably pick another sport or team to follow.

Some of you guys are so thin skinned that your buddies from other schools saying mean things just turn you into miserable SOBs.

If you don't want to be optimistic, don't be.

here's what I'll say.

There are people on this board that are optimistic.
There are people on this board that are pessimistic.

The optimists go into each game hopeful and excited, albeit anxious.
The pessimists go into each game full of woe and dread and talking about how terribly it is going to go (usually with some sort of "I'm above it all but this is just how it is")

After wins, the optimists generally are more excited and have a better outlook.
The pessimists tend to live in "if we did this against a better team, they'd have killed us". After games like ND, it's all about how ND sucks and BETTER teams will kill us. No enjoyment, even after huge wins. These games suddenly become games that "didn't matter".

After losses, the optimists generally still see reasons to support the program and be hopeful.
The pessimists spiral and post threads like this one 10 days after the game, basically daring anyone to tell them not to be miserable.

So my question isn't "why be hopeful". It's why the hell would somebody choose to approach this sport in a way that makes you miserable during the good times, more miserable during the bad times and just generally whiny/sad all the time. What is the value?

I could understand if those that went into games with pessimism were largely even keeled afterwards, but they're they worst. Far worse than those who go in hopeful, despite not getting the outcome they wanted/predicted.

So yeah - be miserable if you want. Nobody is going to convince you why you should believe in big things moving forward. My guess is you just want to take shots at any optimism those folks have vs actually looking for reasons to be happy.

In my experience, folks that want to be happy, hopeful or optimistic, generally are. Folks that don't want it, aren't. Very rarely does either side pivot because of some message board point somebody makes.

2004FIGHTINTXAG said:

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fat girlfriend said:

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The Marksman said:

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fat girlfriend said:

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We've played LSU twice, we're 2-0 and blew them out at their place.

We've played at ND once. We're 1-0.

We played at home in the regular season 8 times. We're 8-0.

We had the first 11 win season in the history of the school.

We had the first playoff appearance in the history of tre school.

If you think this post is silly and unhelpfully just lumps all the good stuff together while ignoring the bad stuff, you're right. So stop doing the same thing in reverse. It's stupid.

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These are literally false statements

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Nah

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Yes, they are very inaccurate. I don't even have to search to know that we went 11-2 in Manziel's first year to prove you're wrong here.

We have played at ND twice and split. Simple search can find this.

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Pretty easy to tell this poster was talking about Elko's tenure (so not counting a game from 25 years ago at ND). I think they probably also know we've played LSU more than 2 times in program history, so I think it is clear what they're saying.

Also pretty clear they're talking about 11 wins in the regular season. Manziel was 10-2, then won a bowl.

tk for tu juan said:

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fat girlfriend said:

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tk for tu juan said:

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1-1 against ND under Elko
1992 had 12 regular season wins
Only 7 regular season home games this year

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I said AT ND. 1992 was playing Rice, so doesn't count. Game at LSU was basically a home game. So I was right on all counts.

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1992 Rice > 2025 Samford, try again

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we also went 11-2 our first year in SEC (10-2 regular season)

12mn95 said:

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tk for tu juan said:

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fat girlfriend said:

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tk for tu juan said:

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1-1 against ND under Elko
1992 had 12 regular season wins
Only 7 regular season home games this year

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I said AT ND. 1992 was playing Rice, so doesn't count. Game at LSU was basically a home game. So I was right on all counts.

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1992 Rice > 2025 Samford, try again

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we also went 11-2 our first year in SEC (10-2 regular season)

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Yes, I just knew he/she would have a qualifier in there for regular wins like ESPN SportsCenter intern crafted stats

We tied for first in the SEC at 7-1. We ended up 11-1. Nobody had a better win total in the SEC. Only Georgia and Ole Miss matched our season. The other 13 teams were worse. These are all true.

Our fanbase won't know what to complain about when we win the national title. Tu has won 1 national title in the last 55 years. They have been worse than us most seasons since they stopped playing us. They aren't a blue blood program like they think they are.

We are "frauds" for going 11-2. Tu must be really bad then. and all the others.

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DTX_12 said:

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We're a complete joke being laughed at anytime there's actually something important and I guess I'm kind of wondering why everyone is so happy and optimistic. What is there about next year why that should all change and we might win one game that's relevant to post season expectations?

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If you truly feel this way, then I feel sorry for you and you should probably pick another sport or team to follow.

Some of you guys are so thin skinned that your buddies from other schools saying mean things just turn you into miserable SOBs.

If you don't want to be optimistic, don't be.

here's what I'll say.

There are people on this board that are optimistic.
There are people on this board that are pessimistic.

The optimists go into each game hopeful and excited, albeit anxious.
The pessimists go into each game full of woe and dread and talking about how terribly it is going to go (usually with some sort of "I'm above it all but this is just how it is")

After wins, the optimists generally are more excited and have a better outlook.
The pessimists tend to live in "if we did this against a better team, they'd have killed us". After games like ND, it's all about how ND sucks and BETTER teams will kill us. No enjoyment, even after huge wins. These games suddenly become games that "didn't matter".

After losses, the optimists generally still see reasons to support the program and be hopeful.
The pessimists spiral and post threads like this one 10 days after the game, basically daring anyone to tell them not to be miserable.

So my question isn't "why be hopeful". It's why the hell would somebody choose to approach this sport in a way that makes you miserable during the good times, more miserable during the bad times and just generally whiny/sad all the time. What is the value?

I could understand if those that went into games with pessimism were largely even keeled afterwards, but they're they worst. Far worse than those who go in hopeful, despite not getting the outcome they wanted/predicted.

So yeah - be miserable if you want. Nobody is going to convince you why you should believe in big things moving forward. My guess is you just want to take shots at any optimism those folks have vs actually looking for reasons to be happy.

In my experience, folks that want to be happy, hopeful or optimistic, generally are. Folks that don't want it, aren't. Very rarely does either side pivot because of some message board point somebody makes.

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More zen like self help book philosophy on the appropriate emotional response to Aggie football. Thank you Confucius for your words of wisdom.

However, oh wise one, mistaking pessimism for misery is most unwise. Has Elko changed things…. time will tell. In other words we have to use an Aggies favorite two words…. "next year".

You can be happy about winning 10+ games while also not being an insufferable Pollyanna and realizing that to accomplish the goals we have:

Go to the SEC title game
Win the SEC title Game
Go to the playoff
Win the playoff

Then a 10+ win season is just the price of admission

It doesn't mean you will accomplish those goals

So it's okay to say that this year was a mixed bag. We won enough to get a ticket but we didn't win the critical games that would have let us capitalize on those 11 wins so it ended being a waste of a good season.

But if your goal is just to win regular season games and nothing else then sure, this year was amazing and we probably won't have a season like it again anytime soon.

OP's point is valid... ignore the crying pumpers


What's even more interesting is towards the end of the season when Elko was asked about finishing & how he preached it all year he backed away from the mantra...

I forget how he phrased it exactly but from his point of view they had already finished & now they were moving into the championship arena to compete for a title...

My assumption is he didn't want the kids to be overwhelmed by the enormity of what was at stake, but from a layman point of view it didn't make much sense to completely abandon the approach that you got you there

Pichael Thompson said:

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OP's point is valid... ignore the crying pumpers


What's even more interesting is towards the end of the season when Elko was asked about finishing & how he preached it all year he backed away from the mantra...

I forget how he phrased it exactly but from his point of view they had already finished & now they were moving into the championship arena to compete for a title...

My assumption is he didn't want the kids to be overwhelmed by the enormity of what was at stake, but from a layman point of view it didn't make much sense to completely abandon the approach that you got you there

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LMAO