Yes. I know this has been discussed, but it's now more evident than ever before that conference championship games are completely worthless! Maybe they worked in small 10 or 12 team conferences. They do not work in these MEGA conferences. They have become a joke. Need evidence? There is plenty of it:

Take a look at the ACC this year. A below average Duke team wins the conference champ game without even playing Miami. Miami beat them by 22 points last matchup and this year would likely be similar. So, Miami didn't even get to play in the worthless conf champ game, but is the only team in the conference worthy of a CFP berth and is now among the final 4 standing. Overwhelming evidence, but just one isn't enough.

2025: Ole Miss didn't make the conference championship game, yet they are the last team standing in the CFP from the SEC. They also had a better overall record than Alabama, but somehow Bama gets in the conference champ game and then gets embarrassed in that game as well as the CFP!

2024: Ohio State team didn't make their Conference championship game, yet they won the whole thing! What more evidence do we need that these conference championship games are a joke?! Worthless.

Why not eliminate these worthless games and expand the playoffs to more teams. This will help eliminate some of the opt outs by players as well as team opt outs like Notre Dame this year.

I think these games have served their purpose and should go away. But this is unlikely since they are money makers (I believe, but stand to be corrected). Plus I would love to see the Aggies not step on their dicks in November and actually make one of these.

Sadly, none of this matters. It's not about what's good for the conference or good for the athletes. It's all about what makes the most money. If the conference title games are making money and adding cash to the already bloated coffers, they'll keep playing them. But if there's an alternative that allows more money to be made, they'll scrap them and do something else. But be assured, whatever decision is made, it will be made 100% based on how much money can be made. Nothing else...end of story...hard stop.

Shorten the regular season to 10 games. 1 warm up non-conference game and 9 conference games.

Have each conference hold a 4 team conference tournament to determine a champion. Winners advance to 4 team playoff.

Those who would argue that Big 12 and ACC don't deserve a representative in the 4 team playoff.. I agree. But a BIG or SEC teams will have had their chance. WIn your own conference title.

This year, it would have been..

SEC
1. Alabama vs 4. A&M
2. Georgia vs 3. Ole Miss

BIG 10
1. Ohio State vs 4 USC
2. Indiana vs 3. Oregon

Big 12
1. Texas Tech vs 4. Houston
2. BYU vs 3. Utah

ACC
1. Virginia vs 4. Duke
2. Miami vs 3. SMU

Which would have been a mess considering 3 of those would have had to rely on bogus tiebreak rules to determine who gets spots 3 and 4. Which is why this structure would have to come with each conference splitting into divisions. And Notre Dame would be forced to join a conference.

You essentially get your 16 team playoff. And conference championships still matter, and matter equally no matter what conference you are in.

The purpose of these games was never to make the playoff picture more clear. They are designed to manufacture a marquee matchup that sells tickets and gets a lot of expensive TV ads. On that front, the CCGs have been very successful.

Loftin said:

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The purpose of these games was never to make the playoff picture more clear. They are designed to manufacture a marquee matchup that sells tickets and gets a lot of expensive TV ads. On that front, the CCGs have been very successful.

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Absolutely. Everything revolves around making money. The format will change when they can figure out how to make even more money AND get enough of the big wig types to sign off on it

conference championship games served a purposes before the playoffs and ultimately expansion. at this point they no longer do. get rid of conf championships and expand playoffs to 16 teams. no byes first two rounds are at higher seed stadiums.

Heineken-Ashi said:

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Shorten the regular season to 10 games. 1 warm up non-conference game and 9 conference games.

Have each conference hold a 4 team conference tournament to determine a champion. Winners advance to 4 team playoff.

Those who would argue that Big 12 and ACC don't deserve a representative in the 4 team playoff.. I agree. But a BIG or SEC teams will have had their chance. WIn your own conference title.

This year, it would have been..

SEC
1. Alabama vs 4. A&M
2. Georgia vs 3. Ole Miss

BIG 10
1. Ohio State vs 4 USC
2. Indiana vs 3. Oregon

Big 12
1. Texas Tech vs 4. Houston
2. BYU vs 3. Utah

ACC
1. Virginia vs 4. Duke
2. Miami vs 3. SMU

Which would have been a mess considering 3 of those would have had to rely on bogus tiebreak rules to determine who gets spots 3 and 4. Which is why this structure would have to come with each conference splitting into divisions. And Notre Dame would be forced to join a conference.

You essentially get your 16 team playoff. And conference championships still matter, and matter equally no matter what conference you are in.

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Well done. I see no major flaws with this concept.

JPK89 said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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Shorten the regular season to 10 games. 1 warm up non-conference game and 9 conference games.

Have each conference hold a 4 team conference tournament to determine a champion. Winners advance to 4 team playoff.

Those who would argue that Big 12 and ACC don't deserve a representative in the 4 team playoff.. I agree. But a BIG or SEC teams will have had their chance. WIn your own conference title.

This year, it would have been..

SEC
1. Alabama vs 4. A&M
2. Georgia vs 3. Ole Miss

BIG 10
1. Ohio State vs 4 USC
2. Indiana vs 3. Oregon

Big 12
1. Texas Tech vs 4. Houston
2. BYU vs 3. Utah

ACC
1. Virginia vs 4. Duke
2. Miami vs 3. SMU

Which would have been a mess considering 3 of those would have had to rely on bogus tiebreak rules to determine who gets spots 3 and 4. Which is why this structure would have to come with each conference splitting into divisions. And Notre Dame would be forced to join a conference.

You essentially get your 16 team playoff. And conference championships still matter, and matter equally no matter what conference you are in.

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Well done. I see no major flaws with this concept.

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I do. Do the teams who don't make the top 4 in each conference just stop at 10 games? No one is going to agree to that. And dangling a crappy bowl in Birmingham or Shreveport in front of them for that 11th game isn't going to entice anyone.

Luke The Drifter said:

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JPK89 said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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Shorten the regular season to 10 games. 1 warm up non-conference game and 9 conference games.

Have each conference hold a 4 team conference tournament to determine a champion. Winners advance to 4 team playoff.

Those who would argue that Big 12 and ACC don't deserve a representative in the 4 team playoff.. I agree. But a BIG or SEC teams will have had their chance. WIn your own conference title.

This year, it would have been..

SEC
1. Alabama vs 4. A&M
2. Georgia vs 3. Ole Miss

BIG 10
1. Ohio State vs 4 USC
2. Indiana vs 3. Oregon

Big 12
1. Texas Tech vs 4. Houston
2. BYU vs 3. Utah

ACC
1. Virginia vs 4. Duke
2. Miami vs 3. SMU

Which would have been a mess considering 3 of those would have had to rely on bogus tiebreak rules to determine who gets spots 3 and 4. Which is why this structure would have to come with each conference splitting into divisions. And Notre Dame would be forced to join a conference.

You essentially get your 16 team playoff. And conference championships still matter, and matter equally no matter what conference you are in.

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Well done. I see no major flaws with this concept.

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I do. Do the teams who don't make the top 4 in each conference just stop at 10 games? No one is going to agree to that. And dangling a crappy bowl in Birmingham or Shreveport in front of them for that 11th game isn't going to entice anyone.

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Then keep the 12 game schedule with 10 conference games. Point is, we have the ability to structure this fairly where we can rid ourselves of a biased committee and stupid rankings that rank teams who dont play similar schedules. Let the conferences determine the standings, have conference tournaments, then let the winners play for all the marbles.

Hell, make the conference tournaments 8 teams. Don't care.

Select the playoff teams BEFORE Conference Championship Weekend.

I don't think the CCGs are going to make as much going forward, especially as the points OP makes are brought out into the open. Expanded playoffs can make a ton more money. It just has to be shared.

I firmly believe that the SEC and other conferences actually think that them making, say, $25 million unshared is better than everyone making enough that the SEC's share is more than $25 million. That's idiotic, I agree, but I really think that's how they think.

The ACC just had an absolutely horrible tiebreaker format so they don't count. For the SEC it should improve going to nine conference games. It seems obvious that the B10 conference title game matched their two top teams in the champ game. Also the games are a cash cow for the conference so they aren't going away.

Conference champ games are dumb. Making them mean more is even more dumb. Top 16 are in, and that's it. All we need is a formulaic ranking system, and doesn't heavily weight margin. There are too few games for margin to matter much.

Absolutely not taking equal teams from all conferences that's far worse than status quo