Can you imagine the meltdown had we hired Cignetti out of JMU a couple of years ago? I mean the almost Stoops hire was 3-mile Island. Makes you go hmmm.
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People who don't watch much college football or follow it closely would have melted down. He's been a winner for a long time and people that follow closely knew it.
jja79 said:
People who don't watch much college football or follow it closely would have melted down. He's been a winner for a long time and people that follow closely knew it.
NOBODY knew this was going to happen. And if you say you did, you're a liar.
jja79 said:
People who don't watch much college football or follow it closely would have melted down. He's been a winner for a long time and people that follow closely knew it.
We would have been firing Jimbo Fisher to hire a guy with no Texas ties 10'years removed from the BAMA OC job and winning records at 3 small schools.
If this was such a no brainer how did INDIANA literally the worst football program winning percentage wise get him and when they did people made fun of that….
This is one of the greatest stories of all time in College Football and it's crazy to Monday morning quarterback this to say he was a great hire at the time and this was inevitable…
Nothing says excellence like a Blue Diamond
All anyone had to do was Google him
nbbob said:
All anyone had to do was Google him
Well done.
He is supposedly a great evaluator of talent. Had he come, wonder what he would have done at QB? Keep Reed or sign Mendoza? With our resources...hate to think about that.
4 said:jja79 said:
People who don't watch much college football or follow it closely would have melted down. He's been a winner for a long time and people that follow closely knew it.
NOBODY knew this was going to happen. And if you say you did, you're a liar.
Well NMKF2007 knew.
I guess that blows your whole "NOBODY knew" theory out of the water.
AGinHI said:4 said:jja79 said:
People who don't watch much college football or follow it closely would have melted down. He's been a winner for a long time and people that follow closely knew it.
NOBODY knew this was going to happen. And if you say you did, you're a liar.
Well NMKF2007 knew.
I guess that blows your whole "NOBODY knew" theory out of the water.
To his point, nobody expected playoffs year 1 and BIG championship + possible natty year 2. At ****ing Indiana.
BUT Cignetti was clearly a very good coach and was going to win. That shouldn't surprise anyone.
4 said:jja79 said:
People who don't watch much college football or follow it closely would have melted down. He's been a winner for a long time and people that follow closely knew it.
NOBODY knew this was going to happen. And if you say you did, you're a liar.
That's why leadership is important. Good leadership identifies opportunity that the masses don't see.
Some ESPN pundits have been saying that Cignetti may end up at Alabama in a year or two.
After the Stoops fiasco, I was happy with just about anybody else.
Ag Tag said:
Some ESPN pundits have been saying that Cignetti may end up at Alabama in a year or two.
Tough to beat BIG10 and Cuben $$$. I'm not sure Alabama can keep up in this market.
Jimbo4win said:4 said:jja79 said:
People who don't watch much college football or follow it closely would have melted down. He's been a winner for a long time and people that follow closely knew it.
NOBODY knew this was going to happen. And if you say you did, you're a liar.
That's why leadership is important. Good leadership identifies opportunity that the masses don't see.
That's true. But even the Indiana brass didn't expect this level of success this quickly.
CapCityAg89 said:Ag Tag said:
Some ESPN pundits have been saying that Cignetti may end up at Alabama in a year or two.
Tough to beat BIG10 and Cuben $$$. I'm not sure Alabama can keep up in this market.
Agreed.
He would've been on the hot seat here already after going 11-2 and getting bounced in the first round by a team playing for the natty.
It's Texas A&M. Let's not act like A&M would be in the national championship.
Heisman...give it to him.
I just hope Cignetti resets these ridiculous long term contracts coaches get. If he can do this at the school that's been the doormat of the Big 10 for
a century in 2 years, there's no reason to give a coach more than 3 years, 4 tops.
a century in 2 years, there's no reason to give a coach more than 3 years, 4 tops.
Is Miami gonna do it
CStewTAMU said:
I just hope Cignetti resets these ridiculous long term contracts coaches get. If he can do this at the school that's been the doormat of the Big 10 for
a century in 2 years, there's no reason to give a coach more than 3 years, 4 tops.
Yeah. No. Cignetti got one of those ridiculous long term contracts before this.
He's 146 and 37. If you just started paying attention that's on you.
TexanJeff said:jja79 said:
People who don't watch much college football or follow it closely would have melted down. He's been a winner for a long time and people that follow closely knew it.
We would have been firing Jimbo Fisher to hire a guy with no Texas ties 10'years removed from the Bama Ok, cool job and winning records at 3 small schools.
If this was such a no brainer how did INDIANA literally the worst football program winning percentage wise get him and when they did people made fun of that….
This is one of the greatest stories of all time in College Football and it's crazy to Monday morning quarterback this to say he was a great hire at the time and this was inevitable…
Because fan bases would have revolted. Had you watched them before the playoffs?
4 said:jja79 said:
People who don't watch much college football or follow it closely would have melted down. He's been a winner for a long time and people that follow closely knew it.
NOBODY knew this was going to happen. And if you say you did, you're a liar.
Nobody knew he was going to win a NC in 2 years but he was in no way shape or form Mark Stoops. His D2 and FCS records were impressive. He had 7 seasons (out of 13) with 9 or more wins and went to 3 straight FCS semis (one final) in the first three years at JMU before they went FBS. Stoops' propensity for doing something stupid, like getting an UNS flag when they had a chance to pick up a first down on the next play, is legendary.
Jim Tressel had a somewhat similar record at Youngstown State before taking over at Ohio State.
Meltdown? Maybe. Was Elko the better fit here at the time? Probably. Really it just depends on what he does with his next set of QBs that come along and how the program does in the next half decade, but I'm sure you have a lot of schools that made late 2023/early 2024 hires that now wish they'd considered him.
Elko is a better coach. We just need a billionaire to step up like Cuban.
jja79 said:
He's 146 and 37. If you just started paying attention that's on you.
So many should have listened to him and in fact Googled him.
Elko is more elite. Just need the right players.
Don Powell said:
Elko is more elite. Just need the right players.
Sure thing Mrs. Elko.
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He would've been on the hot seat here already after going 11-2 and getting bounced in the first round by a team playing for the natty.
Someone should after what Cig was able to do at IU.
Don Powell said:
Elko is more elite. Just need the right players.
How can you say that? What evidence do you have to back that statement up?
TexasAggie_97 said:Don Powell said:
Elko is more elite. Just need the right players.
How can you say that? What evidence do you have to back that statement up?
He's with the good guys
Cignetti entered completely different circumstances at Indiana than Elko entered at A&M.
Indiana expected basically nothing out of him for several years b/c the program was a dumpster fire. He had a completely different set of players, who'd seen almost zero success prior to his arrival. The Indiana players probably were excited as hell to have a coach who preached winning and excellence. If you've ever had a boss, supervisor, coach, whatever who just wasn't successful, then suddenly things change and the new guy starts talking excellence and winning, the winners (and lets face it, despite their abysmal results, D1 Indiana players are in fact good athletes) in the program are going to be motivated as hell to start winning.
Now compare that to A&M being full of 4-5 star entitled, locker room pot smokers who's former coach was frequently AWOL and spent more time yelling at his players for small mistakes instead of actually coaching them. While the fan expectations at A&M were much higher, it was obvious the coach didn't expect much and the continued 8-5 record reflected that.
Indiana fans probably though Cignetti, who looked good on paper, might get them to a few bowl games, but not much else.
Indiana expected basically nothing out of him for several years b/c the program was a dumpster fire. He had a completely different set of players, who'd seen almost zero success prior to his arrival. The Indiana players probably were excited as hell to have a coach who preached winning and excellence. If you've ever had a boss, supervisor, coach, whatever who just wasn't successful, then suddenly things change and the new guy starts talking excellence and winning, the winners (and lets face it, despite their abysmal results, D1 Indiana players are in fact good athletes) in the program are going to be motivated as hell to start winning.
Now compare that to A&M being full of 4-5 star entitled, locker room pot smokers who's former coach was frequently AWOL and spent more time yelling at his players for small mistakes instead of actually coaching them. While the fan expectations at A&M were much higher, it was obvious the coach didn't expect much and the continued 8-5 record reflected that.
Indiana fans probably though Cignetti, who looked good on paper, might get them to a few bowl games, but not much else.
people are so damn full of themselves.
I don't understand why so many of you seem to think a coach that was missed by literally all but one school in college football was simply an A&M miss.
The hindsighting on this board is unreal.
To my knowledge, there was like 1 poster on here that mentioned him BEFORE he went to IU.
Everyone else is just quick to talk about how obvious it was that he was greatness, while never saying a word before.
If you want to impress people, don't say that it was obvious how great Cignetti was going to be years ago, but tell me who the big name will be in 2, 3, 4 years. That would be impressive.
The hindsighting on this board is unreal.
To my knowledge, there was like 1 poster on here that mentioned him BEFORE he went to IU.
Everyone else is just quick to talk about how obvious it was that he was greatness, while never saying a word before.
If you want to impress people, don't say that it was obvious how great Cignetti was going to be years ago, but tell me who the big name will be in 2, 3, 4 years. That would be impressive.
agracer said:
Cignetti entered completely different circumstances at Indiana than Elko entered at A&M.
Indiana expected basically nothing out of him for several years b/c the program was a dumpster fire. He had a completely different set of players, who'd seen almost zero success prior to his arrival. The Indiana players probably were excited as hell to have a coach who preached winning and excellence. If you've ever had a boss, supervisor, coach, whatever who just wasn't successful, then suddenly things change and the new guy starts talking excellence and winning, the winners (and lets face it, despite their abysmal results, D1 Indiana players are in fact good athletes) in the program are going to be motivated as hell to start winning.
Now compare that to A&M being full of 4-5 star entitled, locker room pot smokers who's former coach was frequently AWOL and spent more time yelling at his players for small mistakes instead of actually coaching them. While the fan expectations at A&M were much higher, it was obvious the coach didn't expect much and the continued 8-5 record reflected that.
Indiana fans probably though Cignetti, who looked good on paper, might get them to a few bowl games, but not much else.
This makes zero sense and is almost completely wrong. He ran off almost the entire team and brought in his guys who were used to winning. Then hit the portal hard with big dollars. Pulled a winner with Mendoza and ta-da.
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