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Beck is just not very good

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Proof you don't need a great QB to be a great team. Just need someone serviceable.
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If he's not very good then what does that make Reed?

I agree that you don't need a top QB but you do need a good one.
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Beck is the definition of anti clutch.
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NoahAg said:

If he's not very good then what does that make Reed?

I agree that you don't need a top QB but you do need a good one.


Not comparing the two?
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Very smart timeout that Indiana took to slow things down. Then really dumb of Beck to essentially go for the homerun. Should have went for more of the 8-10 yard passes that were working.
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Poor take. Miami wouldn't have been in the championship game without Beck.
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5 4 said:

Poor take. Miami wouldn't have been in the championship game without Beck.


How so? He's an average QB. Many others would have led them there. The guy is a turnover machine. Miami's strength was their defense. He reminds me a lot of Marcel without the mobility.
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Beck is a well above average college QB. When pressed, he makes mistakes. Their defense got them that far.
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IDaggie06 said:

Very smart timeout that Indiana took to slow things down. Then really dumb of Beck to essentially go for the homerun. Should have went for more of the 8-10 yard passes that were working.


Totally agree and more teams should do that to reset on defense
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He is a very good college QB 24-3 in the sec and 12-3 with Miami
People like to hate on him
He will get his chance to make an NFL roster
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Aggie_buster said:

Beck is the definition of anti clutch.


Ole Miss and Ohio State disagree
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1939 said:

5 4 said:

Poor take. Miami wouldn't have been in the championship game without Beck.


How so? He's an average QB. Many others would have led them there. The guy is a turnover machine. Miami's strength was their defense. He reminds me a lot of Marcel without the mobility.


He engineered 2 go-ahead TD drives in the 4th qtr of the semi-final game. He scored the winning TD on the 2nd drive. He went toe to toe with the Heismann winning QB and came up short.

His combined stat line in the semi-final and championship game.

42/69 500 yds 4TD 2 Int Miami doesn't make it to the final drive of the championship with a chance to win it all without Carson Beck.
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NoahAg said:

If he's not very good then what does that make Reed?

I agree that you don't need a top QB but you do need a good one.

I'm afraid Mr. Reed is good as he's going to get.
He's good, but he's not going to get us to the NC game.
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TAMU74 said:

NoahAg said:

If he's not very good then what does that make Reed?

I agree that you don't need a top QB but you do need a good one.

I'm afraid Mr. Reed is good as he's going to get.
He's good, but he's not going to get us to the NC game.


This was Carson Beck's 6th year in college I believe….Mendoza was going nuts celebrating a win over Stanford to go 6-6 last year. Experience matters even to the "as good as he's going to get" crowd.
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they win it with Chambliss
AggieNattie
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Beck wasn't a game changer nor a great QB, but he was a game manager type that wins you games a lot of the time.

ND had Riley Leonard last year who was a game manager type as well. You just need a QB that takes what is there
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EliteZags said:

they win it with Chambliss


I don't think so, go back and watch the Miami game he was lucky he didn't have 4 interceptions in that game. He made many bad throws Miami just dropped several easy int's.
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Higher completion percentage, more yards, few sacks than the Heisman winner. Yes his intereceptions were high but not as high as Reed. Too many INTs to end games but at least he was in them. I'd take him.
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Not very good? What's the definition of "very good"? Win the NC? He did get to the NC game and was 10th in QBR for the season. He's pretty good. He wasn't Mendoza "out of this world" but what other QBs were. The measuring stick seems to be "win it all or you suck".
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13th overall QB rating. 72% completion percentage. 30 TDs this year, top 5. To say he is not very good is not true.
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NoahAg said:

If he's not very good then what does that make Reed?

I agree that you don't need a top QB but you do need a good one.

Worse!
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TAMU74 said:

NoahAg said:

If he's not very good then what does that make Reed?

I agree that you don't need a top QB but you do need a good one.

I'm afraid Mr. Reed is good as he's going to get.
He's good, but he's not going to get us to the NC game.

YES!! He ain't gonna get us there!!!
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IDaggie06 said:

Very smart timeout that Indiana took to slow things down. Then really dumb of Beck to essentially go for the homerun. Should have went for more of the 8-10 yard passes that were working.

Or, just throw the ball far enough. The receiver was breaking behind the coverage. Put the ball in front of him and it is a touchdown.
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He's very good. Made a big mistake and fell just short. Special teams cost Miami a lot more.
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IDaggie06 said:

Very smart timeout that Indiana took to slow things down. Then really dumb of Beck to essentially go for the homerun. Should have went for more of the 8-10 yard passes that were working.


And yet the play was there. Receiver was open, he just under threw it. Had he made the throw, and it wasn't that difficult of one, they likely win by 1 and he is one of the greatest. Amazing what 1 play can mean.
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GAC06 said:

Beck is a well above average college QB. When pressed, he makes mistakes. Their defense got them that far.

Accurate. Only 1 team wins the National Championship.
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Logos Stick said:

13th overall QB rating. 72% completion percentage. 30 TDs this year, top 5. To say he is not very good is not true.


Absolutely, maybe not very good but pretty dang good and well above avg. just some late boneheaded decisions and mistakes, that final throw was awful. The WR was not even expecting the ball as he had double coverage with the safety rolled over, there was not even a TE on that side of the formation. The WR is not even looking for the ball as it was coming down for the INT.

Plenty of time and Miami was moving the ball, to go for it all there with one WR to the boundary and double coverage was really stupid and a huge mistake. But he is a very good college QB.

Miami offered Ty Simpson $5 mill. + to enter the transfer portal AFTER he declared for the NFL draft. Dude, $5 mill. For essentially 10 months of "work"?!?! I'd take that in a heartbeat, NFL will still be there.

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Wrong. Throw the ball further and the safety was going to intercept.
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Maybe . If it was perfectly placed it could have been a TD for Miami imo.

Agree with those that say miami got impatient .to me if you get to the 10-15 yard line it opens up more possibilities for a game winning finish.

I think Beck ends up a clipboard holder in the NFL which is damned good work if you can get it.
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Aggie_buster said:

Beck is the definition of anti clutch.

He anti clutched them all the way to the National Championship game
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He is a sore loser for sure. That's another topic but being a poor sport still matters.
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Lol He has been a top 10 QB for 3 years in a row at two different schools.
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I think Carson Beck is a good quarterback, but not a great quarterback.
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