Dear English Soccer Fans

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Aston94
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First off, I love the product. Absolutely love it. I will always be a supporter of the EPL. So with that as my personal backdrop, let's discuss ways you can improve your game so that you don't have protests over foreign investors and raid fields to stop games:

1. Maybe think about holding onto your own clubs. I don't know that you should be so much upset at investors like the Glazers who saw an opportunity to invest and make money as you should be at the people who sold your teams to foreign investors. Expecting outsiders to value your teams in the same way you value them is ridiculous and won't ever happen.

2. If you really want all the teams to have open opportunity, then develop a financial fair play system (or cap on salaries) and enforce it. Talking about a dream of West Ham going to play Barcelona in the UCL is nice, but as long as you allow clubs to spend what they want on transfers with no consequences then it will largely remain a pipe dream. You are the big product, it is okay to bully UEFA a bit on a cap.

3. Insist the EPL and FA have a system of approving owners that mandates how proceeds can be spent.

4. I didn't like the idea of the Super League, but realize that the Super League was wanted by the big clubs because of the issues with UEFA.

5. If you want your clubs to remain in your hands then cap the expenditure side of soccer, so clubs don't have to pay astronomical fees for bringing in players. The NFL system allows for all 32 clubs to have a chance because their market is largely irrelevant to their success. The Cowboys are worth almost three times as much as the Buccaneers, but the system allows them to compete evenly. Your system does not.

I know there are differences in the US System and UK-Europe, but it is time the EPL use its power to make substantive changes so that your league can be held by local ownership and all teams have an equal opportunity at competition.
deadbq03
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On a semi-related note, I absolutely loathe the "Swiss System" that UEFA will be implementing for the group stage of Champions League. It will result in far more meaningless games, it will result in fewer "Gladbach" upsets making it to the round of 16, but it will generate a lot of money for UEFA and the big clubs.
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hilarious like they have any say in it..This should be directed at the FA..
Aston94
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Onceaggie2.0 said:

hilarious like they have any say in it..This should be directed at the FA..
I think the fans have shown their power over the last few weeks. If they want substantive change they should direct their attention to FA and EPL Board.
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Sure wish the fans would put the same energy in protesting racism in English soccer that they put into protesting the club owners trying to make money....... The idea of the Super League ended in 2 days. Imagine if enough people got pissed about players getting racially abused on the field and in social media.
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What can they do about it? As an average fan of Club X Y, or Z what can you do about other fans who are racist morons? Tell them to stop? Threaten them?
LouisHerbertWong
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They're likely one and the same.
Agsncws
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Teacher_Ag said:

What can they do about it? As an average fan of Club X Y, or Z what can you do about other fans who are racist morons? Tell them to stop? Threaten them?
Same thing you do with inappropriate conduct in stadiums in the US - report them. The clubs and stadiums need to be sure they are staffed in a way to handle issues as they arise. Its not uncommon to be able to report someone via text or ap.
jessexy
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Everyone in UEFA seemed to stand up against the Super League as soon as it was announced and changes happened within days. EPL teams withdrew. UEFA was threatening banishment. German teams didn't even get going. Coaches, players, and executives spoke out. The whole Euro soccer community was against the Super League.

These ManU fan protests are a derivative of that. And imagine if all of that action happened at the next incident of racism. If you can't see it then maybe you're obtuse
Teacher_Ag
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jessexy said:

If you can't see it then maybe you're obtuse


agdoc2001
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jessexy said:

These ManU fan protests are a derivative of that. And imagine if all of that action happened at the next incident of racism. If you can't see it then maybe you're obtuse
Yeah, if only we could see a coordinated effort like that to stamp out racism.

Maybe the players could wear something on their kits or we could put huge banners up in the stadium about racism or even have a moment of silence before the game or something like that. The FA could spend millions of dollars on school programs, encouraging diversity, setup multiple social media channels which allowed fans to report racism in person or online, attempt to pressure Facebook and Twitter to force users to use their real identities, or maybe the clubs could even boycott social media for a set period of time. Perhaps we could force lower level clubs to hire black or asian candidates. We could ban players who use racist language for more than a third of the season. Wait, I've got it: we could have police arrest children if they send racist tweets to footballers.

Nah, that just sounds excessive.
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Aston94
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Teacher_Ag said:

jessexy said:

If you can't see it then maybe you're obtuse





I think of the same thing every time I hear the word obtuse.

I feel obtuse is a very underutilized word in our everyday vernacular. Gonna try and work on that.
lurker76
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Aston94 said:

Teacher_Ag said:

jessexy said:

If you can't see it then maybe you're obtuse





I think of the same thing every time I hear the word obtuse.

I feel obtuse is a very underutilized word in our everyday vernacular. Gonna try and work on that.
That is an acute observation.
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