you can go DIAF you dip sh*t... I hope Mark Cuban puts one up your ass so hard you don't even no what happened

Done.

I honestly thought the guy was a really good coach . . . until this series. Take the worst playoff series Erick Dampier has ever had, and it's still better than the turd series Coach just crapped out.

I don't think he's the problem. Who else out there is better? JVG?

are you serious????? I know you're a Spurs fan but you have to keep Roddy B. in there instead of JET.

But the guy played in the second and all of the third. He needed rest. He was a great spark for their push to get back into the game. But his frantic pace might not have been the best thing for a 4th quarter with your season on the line as a rookie. And it showed with his turnover.

Also think of all the occasions where Terry has KILLED the spurs in the past.

I can't hold that last TO against him. Hard to keep your dribble when someone grabs one arm.

OMG, he didnt get into the 4th quarter until the last 3 minutes. 9 minutes of rest? you're argument makes no sense.

I'm a Spurs fan and I (honestly) thought Carlisle did a good job this series. That rookie kid was a hell of a spark in the 2nd and 3rd but when he finally did get in in the 4th he absolutely did not want the ball. Your problems are more with chemistry than coaching IMHO. Lots of guys that can flat out ball but when it comes down to the wire they crumble and they're content standing around watching Dirk shoot.

now, that Cuban doesn't have to pay Avery next year ... he'll can bring him back and put Carlisle on the coaching bench.

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when he finally did get in in the 4th he absolutely did not want the ball.

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hmm, no, Roddy handled the ball alot when Rick finally put him back in ...

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Lots of guys that can flat out ball but when it comes down to the wire they crumble and they're content standing around watching Dirk shoot.

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that's called COACHING.

I doubt Carlisle gets fired although I am unhappy w/ the Mavs playoff performance

To 1,000,000 touchdowns...and beyond

The TO was a result of Parker grabbing his arm- should have been a foul.

Carlisle was looking for that 3rd scoring option to take them home- Terry was just a dissapointment. Had he gotten off, then RC brought back Roddy to join a hot Terry and Dirk, he'd probably look like a genius.

He had a small window for Terry to do something- should have brought him back earlier when nothing materialized.

I agree. I'm ok with Terry getting a little time to begin the 4th. But Roddy should have been back in there with 6 to go...not 2 1/2.

1. Roddy should have been playing the whole series, as most Mavs fans had been saying all along. Not saying we would have won for sure, but at least give it a try instead of putting Barrea and Jet in at the same time for huge stretches of games.

2. What is the Mavs problem alot of times? They don't drive the ball to the basket enough and settle for jump shots. What is Carlisle's answer? To not play Roddy at all and bench Butler for huge stretches (all of second half in game 2). These are the only guys we have who actually attack the rim.

3. Carlisle's comments about playing the small lineup and benching some people: That is just who we are. No it isn't. We were not like that in the regular season after the trade. Maybe that is who we were last season, but with Haywood, Butler, and Marion we do not have to go small with Barrea and Terry in at the same time. They cannot play D worth a damn, even if Barrea scored some that game.

Bottom line is that he's gone.

I think you're wrong

/teebox guy

The inconvenient truth to the Mavs is that they play better without Dirk than they do with him. He's a defensive liability and on offense, those guys feel like everything has to run through him. When he's not there, more guys are involved it makes the Mavs tougher to defend.

That's what's special about the Spurs. The offense never has to run through any one player. And all players on the floor get put in positions where they can contribute (McDyess from the elbow, Bonner for 3, Parker on the P&R, etc.).

The Mavs, just like lots of other teams, are great regular season teams, but the playoffs are really a different game because of the way teams are able to focus on each other. That's when the attention to detail comes out, and Dirk and Dallas have NEVER been particularly good at the little things; whereas the Spurs aren't a really good regular season team, but Pop may be the best playoff coach ever (in terms of raising a team's performance over what they did in the regular season).

Roddy is the most athletic player on the team and Rick didn't use him. Rick needs to go, Dampier and Shawn Marion can follow him to.

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I dont buy that.

When Damp is laying a turd, along with Kidd and Terry for the entire series, someone has to take over. Dirk has put the team on his shoulders the past couple seasons. I can't fault him for the loss. The rest of the team provided little help.

Agree with Aggrad. Guys standing around Dirk is a problem with those players, not Dirk. Dirk isn't a ballhog unwilling to get other guys involved.

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That's what's special about the Spurs. The offense never has to run through any one player.

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Give Dirk Parker and Ginobili and you would say the same thing about the Mavs.

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whereas the Spurs aren't a really good regular season team

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The Spurs were better than the Mavs in the regular season this year by far on the stats, and only 4 games behind them in won/loss

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The inconvenient truth to the Mavs is that they play better without Dirk than they do with him. He's a defensive liability and on offense, those guys feel like everything has to run through him. When he's not there, more guys are involved it makes the Mavs tougher to defend.

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Get out of here. This is some of the most slanted analysis I have ever read on here. So are there a lot of teams that are "better teams" when their future Hall of Famer is on the bench? And instead of just relying on other people's analysis from 8 years ago, try watching the game and thinking for yourself. Dirk's defense, although not spectacular, has come a long way over his career and he is defensive neutral at worst.

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That's what's special about the Spurs. The offense never has to run through any one player. And all players on the floor get put in positions where they can contribute (McDyess from the elbow, Bonner for 3, Parker on the P&R, etc.).

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I apologize for calling the previous statement some of the most slanted I have read because this blows the previous ones away. Your opinion is that what is so "special" about the Spurs is that their team leader/best player is too old to carry the load he did for 4 championship runs? Their offense during all their championships was Tim Duncan. As the t-shirt reads, the rest (of the players) are just details. Even now with Duncan well past his prime, they hang around and as soon as it is crunch time, they go right to Duncan. That sounds more like a liability rather then something "special" and if they lose, this will be why.

See game 2. When the Mavs cut it down to 2 point lead, the Spurs went to Duncan on 5 straight posessions and he scored 8 points and the game was all over at that point.

Manu and Parker are very nice players, but I think that everyone calling them the "Big Three" is so rediculous. None of the Big 3 can carry the team for a series except for Duncan. They can carry a team for a game, but not for an entire series. To even put the other two in the same catagory as Duncan is an insult to Duncan - who is one of the best players of all time. The Big 3 are merely just the three best players of a solid team. By labeling them the "Big Three" every team then has a Big Three. At worse, I would say that Dirk, Butler, and Jet are as good as "The Big Three" and lets not talk aboout a real "Big Three" in Boston. It is not like we are talking about 3 future Hall of Famers lining up together in SA.

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Please. Nice troll.
I don't think Carlisle will be fired nor should he be fired. Roddy could have played more, but he is careless with the ball. Possessions are crucial in the playoffs.

I think McDyess was the big key to the series. It seems like the guy drilled every 17 footer he took. It's ironic that as much fanfare as the RJ pickup got this offseason that a smaller move like getting McDyess was a key to the series. Congrats to the Spurs. I'll be cheering for them to knock off the Lakers.

When Ginobili was in his prime, he could carry a series.

In 2005, he averaged 21/6/4 on 51%/44%/80% shooting for the entire playoffs.

Phil Jackson might be available next year, and Cuban will be happy to pay for him. Who knows how that would impact the free agents willing to come to Dallas?

Why would Phil Jackson be available?

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"I know Phil will be coaching next year, somewhere. Whether it's here or someplace else I don't know," Buss told ESPN.com. "There's going to be a lot of good jobs that come up this summer. ... I know that he can't just retire."

While Jackson said earlier this year that a Lakers championship would almost guarantee his return, there's still an issue of money.

"My dad, [Lakers owner Jerry Buss], has made it very clear he doesn't want to pay [Jackson] what he's been paying him. So that's kind of hard, too," Buss said in reference to Jackson's $12 million contract. "You could kind of say, in some jobs, well, I'm cutting back your hours. But can you see him cutting back his hours? It's not really about the amount of money for [Jackson]. It's about, 'I can't give you less effort.'"

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I forgot the rant about Carisle in my last post....

I realized that guy is not a good coach when he was being interviewed at the end of the first quarter and the interviewer basically lead him on a leash to what was wrong with the team (not being aggressive on offense and settling for jump shots) and his answer was something like:

"We are a jump shooting team. Our offense is fine, we just need some shots to fall and play tighter defense..."

Aside from the fact that they just scored 8 points in a qtr, this series has been the most obvious series I have ever seen. It was rediculous how easy it was to dissect. Anyone could see that anytime the Mavs put in the hard work on offense and got the ball inside, they went on long runs. When they did not and became a "jump shooting" team, the Spurs went on long runs.

You could have made the best drinking game ever by incorporating Reggie Miller saying "drive to the basket" or "settle for jump shots" with taking shots. But the Mavs head coach thought that all was ok and that we are just a jump shooting team....

Maybe that is why Boubois was not in the game in the 4th. He was driving inside too much when they needed a more pure jump shooter on the court like JET since they are a jump shooting team.

pitiful......

Simple already posted above.

If Buss doesn't want to pay him, the owner of the Mavs will, I think, as would the Nets owner.

[This message has been edited by Iowaggie (edited 4/30/2010 10:33a).]