KG throws his elbow into a hard screen against Miller.

Rondo standing on the outside of Miami's huddle trying to peek/listen in.

Such bush league stuff.

Hate these idiots.

did you see them show the replay of rondo guarding Lebron?

That's ridiculous that they allow him to do that.

Just saw it. Announcers were acting like it was just good defense.

KG is the one I can't stand the most. Must have started way back when he couldn't beat the Spurs' twin towers and resorted to cheap stuff and trash talking that he couldn't back up.

Hitting Frye in the nuts a week or two ago was just another example.

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It's a shame that playing hard nosed basketball is frowned upon nowadays

there's nothing hard-nosed about being a d-bag like garnett is

Oh, I see. Punching someone in the nuts on a 3-point attempt is just fair, hard-nosed bball. Gotcha.

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Kevin Garnett plays the same way Bruce Bowen did, fans tend to ignore d-baggery when it's on their team.

lol oh spurs fans. isn't bruce bowen touted as a hard nosed player on this homer board?

and he knees people in the groin more on purpose than garnett hit frye, and bowen kicks people in the face and purposefully undercuts them to roll ankles.

Throwing aside KG being a d-bag, he is still one of the more dominant post players in the game today.

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You must have missed it earlier this season when he slid his foot under a guy's landing. At least Bowen is "hard nosed" when he's defending, not for the sole purpose of hurting the other player. KG's a punk and a thug.

thank you for proving my point that Bowen and KG are both d-bags. Bowen just doesn't run his mouth as much as KG. as far as dirty actions, they're similiar

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Agreed. But this makes the giant chasm between a Bowen and a KG.

KG has been talking crap for years, long before he was ever on a good team. He is blatantly thug in his antics and he thinks he's a gangster thug on the court, even though he's playing NBA ticky tack ball.

At least Bowen kept his mouth shut. His defense was the only thing obnoxious about him.

a big **** you to all the KG haters

the man is a badass

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great, royal rooter is back

It used to be pretty funny when garnett would try the tough guy role with the timberwolves. I remember him trying to shove duncan around and give him the super duper intimdating stare at the foul line. Then duncan would absolutely own him and knock his ****ty team out of the playoffs. Good times.

I used to love KG, but have found him to be kinda dirty....but did you watch the video? That was not a punch in the nuts (ala Jason Terry, and I'm a Mavs fan).

To me, it looked accidental. KG turned his head towards the basket when the alleged hand to sack contact occurred. Either way, that was the weakest sack tap I've ever seen. Frye sold it like a WWE wrestler.

the irony is thick in this one spurs fans

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did you see them show the replay of rondo guarding Lebron?

That's ridiculous that they allow him to do that.

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I thought that was pretty crazy that they allowed that. If you think it was just hard-nosed defense, think about what it would have looked like if the roles were reversed and Lebron was guarding Rondo that way, no doubt it would be a foul.

swap duncan and KG on their respective teams and the spurs still win those titles (probly at least 1 more)

the only difference would have been in the TV ratings, as more than just the san antonio market would have actually tuned in to watch.

That guy is an absolute idiot.

Terrible attempt at a troll.

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swap duncan and KG on their respective teams and the spurs still win those titles (probly at least 1 more)

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Couldn't agree less. Athletic talent alone /= championships. KG definitely has/had more athletic talent than Tim Duncan. HOWEVER....
what Duncan has/had is a keen awareness of the team concept, as well as a basketball IQ that is unrivaled among other NBA PF/C. Duncan's humility and locker-room presence have as much to do with SA's championships as his ability to rebound and block shots. There's a reason you'll never hear a Spur piss and moan about PT. They come prepared to do whatever it takes, and that all starts with Timmy.

Kevin Garnett is a punk and didn't even begin to fathom the team concept until he got put on one where he wasn't the best player anymore. Good for him that he finally won a title but don't think for a second it wasn't because he was on a team with 3 other future HOF players.

This quote seems appropriate to use again:


"I remember one time Kevin Garnett was mushing him, and shoving him in the face; and Tim Duncan didn't do anything, he didn't react. He just kicked Kevin Garnett's ass, and won the damn championship. You know what I'm sayin'? That's gangsta. Everybody can show emotion, dunk on somebody, scream and be real cocky; but Tim Duncan is a ... he's a pimp."

-Ron Artest

Lots of spurs fans holding a grudge here from what year did they play Garnett in the playoffs? 2002? A decade ago?

Don't pretend that Garnett only won a title because he played with 3 hall of famers. Allen and Pierce were not HOF caliber until they were paired with Garnett. KG put up virtually the same numbers as Al Jefferson, but the team had the most drastic 1 year improvement of all time. But it must have all been ray Allen and Tom Thibideau.

Garnett is a dirty player and trash talker, but he backs it up and inspires his team to win.

I'm sorry that's just garbage. Ray Allen just broke the record for made 3-pointers in the history of the NBA. Prior to joining the Celtics, he had 10 seasons in a row scoring 20+ points, including his last year in Seattle where he scored 26 per game. Most people agree he is the best all-around shooter in the history of the game.

And he wasn't a HOFer before he got on a team with KG? Are you freaking kidding me?

You lose credibility with that one. You almost have an argument with Pierce, and his career had a while to play out before he could be considerend HOF caliber. But a career of 23/6/4 is also pretty damn good for a non-hall-of-famer. And he only played 1/2 a season in 06-07. You'll have to explain to me how his chances of making the HOF went UP with the addition of Garnett, despite the fact that most of his statistics went DOWN.

Oh, and don't worry about mentioning the emergence of Rondo as an all-star PG or the rental of James Posey and the drafting of Glen Davis. None of those things improved the Celtics that year, just like having Pierce play an entire season didn't make a difference. It was all Garnett.

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garnett proved his worth the season after they won the title, when the C's (with essentially the same team minus posey) couldn't get past the magic in the 2nd round because he was injured.

he comes back last year and what do they do (even though he was never fully healthy at anypoint in the season)? That's right they go back to the finals where they held a 3-2 lead without HCA and then lost because perk tore his ACL in game 6

he is a difference maker, and the consumate teammate. all he cares about is winning the game, not if he gets his numbers.

he's always been a better passer and defender than duncan, he just played most of his career on bad teams. duncan walked into a good situation. when KG finally got the chance to play with good players he did just what duncan did

the spurs and celtics share a lot of similarities in their style of play, most notably that it's all about the team. The only difference is the C's are actually fun to watch while doing it.

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I'm not saying Garnett isn't a great player. In fact I already said he was more athletically talented than Duncan. But "they couldn't win without him" doesn't mean he's the best player on the team. The Spurs are a lot worse when they don't have Tony Parker...does that mean Parker is better than Ginobili?

Garnett is a talented player. He's also trash. His favorite targets are (often rookie or foreign) point guards- guys who tend to be a foot shorter than him (Calderon one year, and a rookie). If anyone stands up to him, he backs off (like when he threw the ball at McDyess and then backed off when Dice came after him).

The punch in the groin was not an accident (though it wasn't a full-force roundhouse punch it was clearly an independent motion, an intentional hit to the groin, and it doesn't take much for that to bother you).

He has mental issues; you cannot automatically assume he would have won with the Spurs. He once punched his own team mate in practice because the team mate was actually trying and ended up embarrassing him.

There's a difference between 'tough, hard-nosed basketball' and trash-talking bullies who like to pick on smaller guys or guys they think won't retaliate (and then run when they do retaliate). Garnett is the latter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FASClJTnJ4I

Garnett runs away from Dice after instigating it at around 3:50 into the video. A few other examples of his 'fake tough guy' act in there as well.


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if this is true...then garnett wouldnt have won in '08 had bynum and ariza been playing for the lakers.

quit being an idiot. garnett is one of the biggest trash talkers in NBA history. and pulls some bush league moves DAILY.

i cannot think of a person who sets more illegal screens than KG. he should foul out by the first quarter every game.

I thought rondo trying to listen in in the heat huddle was funny, but I didn't see him guarding lebron, is there video somewhere?

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Not that I think his d-baggery needs to be debated, but check out the "punches" Garnett throws Dice's way as he's backpedaling. Funny stuff.

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swap duncan and KG on their respective teams and the spurs still win those titles (probly at least 1 more)

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What a terrible troll. Come on man, you have to come across as somewhat believable. Make up some sheet about how Garnet is a better offensive rebounder or has a better 10 foot game or outperforms Duncan in some other obscure statistic.

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Not only did Duncan anchor the best NBA defense for a decade, but he also has logged 500 more blocks than KG, playing two seasons less. Don't see how you can really come to that conclusion.

Duncan is also arguably the best "help" defender of all time. As pointed out, the Spurs defense for as long as Duncan has been around has been to channel shooters directly into the help down low, which, pretty much since Robinson left has been Duncan alone.

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Duncan's easily top 3, but a better 'help' defender than Bill Russell?? Get out of here.

Yeah, I know. No wonder he's trying to get out of there. If the fight were continued with Garnett throwing those 'slap fight' punches vs. Dice, I think they could cancel the ambulance for Garnett and just call a hearse.

Did you catch the 'Pooh Bear, Winnie the Pooooh Bear' theme song on the video as he threw the 'punches' in slow motion?