Thunder/Grizz Triple OT after an OT in game 3

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jwd2963
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Are these OT games going to have a negative effect on these two teams for the WC finals or is this just wishful thinking? Both teams are pretty young but at some point, the grind has to get to them.

If the series goes 7 games and is as hard fought as games 3 and 4, this could bode well for the well-rested Mavs.
MSCAg
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Just as easy to say these teams are being strengthened through fire and the Mavs are about to face a team that is very used to taking punches and playing with momentum.
jwd2963
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Very true. Playoff experience.
LandThieves
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I think if anything, it makes them stronger. Whoever comes out of this series is going to be strengthened by it overall. However, I think the Mavs will prevail over either team.

It's too bad my two favorite NBA teams may be meeting up in the playoffs; the Mavs and the Thunder.

I really like the Thunder because I'm from Oklahoma, but I've always been a Mavs fan from since I've lived in this area. Pisses me off that it has to be one or the other, if any at all, that makes it to the big dance.

I guess I have to look at the positive side. With the two of them doing well, it gives me at least more of a chance at having one of my two favorite teams in the championship game.

[This message has been edited by LandThieves (edited 5/10/2011 4:46p).]
PatAg
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I still think we should have the advantage in either series, simply because neither OKC or Memphis has been there before.
BillOnCapitolHill
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I think it deflated Mem losing at home and it will cost them game 5 for sure. Put to the brink we will have to see how they respond. I think the Mavs want to draw OKC.
jwd2963
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I am pretty confident in our matchups with either team. Our bench is deep and good. The only thing that bothers me is the youth/athleticism of the guards.
BillOnCapitolHill
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If its a half-court game Dallas wins in 5. If they dont protect the ball and mem/okc defense is good it will go to 7.
Pahdz
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Kidd doesn't stand a chance vs. Westbrook.

Likewise, no one on the Thunder stands a chance vs. Dirk
BillOnCapitolHill
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What is the best way to defend dallas? Go man, and just let dirk get his 30?

The problem is OKC is a bit smaller than DAL.
Pahdz
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at the 4 and 5, isn't every other position pretty even size wise? having 2 legit 7 footers is a pretty big advantage for DAL
BillOnCapitolHill
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http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/okc/oklahoma-city-thunder

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/dal/dallas-mavericks

Hayward/Chandler/Dirk can all play in the paint.
Pahdz
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meant 3 7 footers

i'm not arguing with you, by the way, you can put your links and stats away
BillOnCapitolHill
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Holy crap. Peja is getting paid what? The league minimum? He really wants a ring.


No argument here. Just acknowledging the depth at the 5. And providing you some stats for "every other position"

[This message has been edited by BillOnCapitolHill (edited 5/11/2011 11:44p).]
Pahdz
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but outside the 4/5, the length is pretty even i'd say.
jwd2963
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Who guards Durant? Marion?
MW03
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I think Marion is the only one with a prayer of keeping Durant under 30, and it's a pretty lofty prayer at that. I'm more worried about Westbrook, to be honest.
Pahdz
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I don't see anyone on that dallas roster who could hang with westbrook, could be like him vs fisher last year.
Guitarsoup
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I don't see anyone on that dallas roster who could hang with westbrook, could be like him vs fisher last year.


That's the big problem here.

Ibaka is about as good a matchup as you could hope to get on Dirk.


But Marion is a bit slow for Durant. And are you really going to throw Kidd/Barea/Terry on Westbrook?

Westbrook is the x-factor. If he stops ball hogging and starts creating, Thunder roll. If he tries to prove he is the Alpha and Durant is there to help him out, Dirk will be able to take advantage of it.
MW03
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My prediction is that you are going to see a lot of 2-3 zone to try and limit Westbrook's chances in the paint. As with the Portland series, the trick is going to be the weak side help to Chandler from either Marion or Nowitzki when Durant crashes behind Westbrook.

It'll be interesting to see if Ibaka keeps throwing balls into the expensive seats. Thinking about Ibaka swatting at Barrea makes me laught a little.
MW03
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I don't see anyone on that dallas roster who could hang with westbrook, could be like him vs fisher last year.



To be honest, I didn't think I could find anyone who could hang with The Marcus or Kobe either, but I was surprised.
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FWIW, the Mavs held Westbrook well under his season average during the regular season, but Durant was a couple points higher against the Mavs than his average.

I know there have been a lot of changes for both teams and regular season does not equal playoffs, but it is a little comforting as a Mavs fan to see he didn't abuse us in the regular season.
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That's the big problem here.

Ibaka is about as good a matchup as you could hope to get on Dirk.


But Marion is a bit slow for Durant. And are you really going to throw Kidd/Barea/Terry on Westbrook?

Westbrook is the x-factor. If he stops ball hogging and starts creating, Thunder roll. If he tries to prove he is the Alpha and Durant is there to help him out, Dirk will be able to take advantage of it.

I'm not worried about Ibaka on Dirk. While Ibaka is much more athletic than Gasol, and will put in more energy defensively than Camby/The Marcus did, I think Dirk will be able to back down Ibaka much easier. Not to mention he's a pretty young guy and loves to swat people's shots, I can see Dirk doing his usual set of moves and getting Ibaka off his feet, drawing the foul, with a chance for and-1.

With Durant, I think the key is to be physical. He's going to get his points, no matter what. He's too great of a player. But watching how Artest got into his body and just out muscled him last year in the playoffs, I'd have Marion glued to him as soon as he touches the ball. And again, do your work defensively off the ball. Deny, deny, deny, and play the passing lanes. Durant is a great catch-and-shooter.

The more I think about Westbrook, the less I'm concerned. His explosion to the basket is Rose-esque, but Chandler is a great help defender and Perk/Ibaka don't pose much of an offense threat. I almost want him to drive the basket and put up those crazy layups with Chandler in his face than allow Durant to get going.

Harden is actually the guy that scares from a match-up standpoint. If he gets going, he's a scary dude. He flies under the radar with Durant and Westbrook on the floor.

[This message has been edited by Judge (edited 5/12/2011 5:16p).]
Pahdz
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That's the beauty of the harden/westbrook/durant lineup
PatAg
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also, "single guarding dirk and letting him get his 30" is fallacious. If you single guard dirk to let him get his, he will throw 40+ on you.
Iowaggie
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I am worried that the Grizz will go down like the Hawks did tonight.

Or they could force a game 7, and pull it out. I'm pretty *****zo on the prediction.
jwd2963
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Patag. Nice call.
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