Is it just me or was that the longest 3.5 seconds ever? I may be wrong and I couldn't rewind it to see. Can anbody else clarify when the clock started?

I thought this was going to be about the fact that it should have been called a backcourt violation.

Should have been a back court violation. I think sometime in the 3rd quarter the analysts confirmed it.

It's unfortunate, but I really feel like it was actually the Mavericks who got the benefit of the doubt on most calls last night.

I'm also not one of those people who thinks - "Well we lost by 3, that was the game". Taking away 3 points with 3 quarters to play changes the entire scope of the game.

Still, it sucked. This was the second game where Miami just hit their open 3's, while we missed some wide open ones. We were lucky to be that close.

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It's unfortunate, but I really feel like it was actually the Mavericks who got the benefit of the doubt on most calls last night.

I'm also not one of those people who thinks - "Well we lost by 3, that was the game". Taking away 3 points with 3 quarters to play changes the entire scope of the game.

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Agree on both points.

Strange as it is, Mario Chalmers is winning the series for Miami.

As for the 3 pointer, Ref Calls is saying that it was the correct call because the rule book doesn't state that Chalmers had to establish position in the frontcourt before touching the ball at the end of the 1st Q.

I thought it was a long 3.5 also....

I never considered it a back court until they brought it up and still thought it was a good no-call.

If you watch the play real time, it hard to tell if he got the right foot off the line in time. I think the refs missed, but its not re-viewable and it was such a split-second thing I don't blame them for holding off on a whistle.


Besides, the Mavs tied it up late in the game. Miami closed and Dallas didn't.

Any angst I had over that call ended after they let Shawn Marion get away with fouling LeBron beyond the arc late in the 4th.

How can it be a good no-call? This isn't a block/charge situation. Either the guy steps out of bounds or he doesn't. He's either in front court or not. It's never going to be a good no-call.

They blew the same call in Game 3 in 2006. It was much more obvious violation in 2006. Plus then he got a baloney call on winning shot.

It's ridiculous that the refs in the NBA Finals don't know the rules.

From the link above:

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Well, we looked at the rulebook to find out for ourselves since it’s a pretty rare scenario. If you’ve been reading what we’ve been writing on this site over the past few weeks, you probably have picked up on the theme about how the rulebook is detailed in some areas, nebulous in others, and just has huge gaps in other parts.

We believe this scenario involving Chalmers falls into the last category — in a gap. It’s not clearly explained what should be ruled, but if you go through the process of elimination, we have come to the conclusion that it was NOT a backcourt violation. Here’s why:

Chalmers’ foot wasn’t on the halfcourt line when he caught the pass. He actually jumped into the air to catch the ball, then came down in the frontcourt. This is a fatal flaw that ABC and others have been assuming for some reason, when the video clearly shows he wasn’t.

So you have to look in the rulebook for the scenario where a player catches the ball in mid-air when he hasn’t been in the frontcourt yet. Unfortunately, that specific scenario is not specifically spelled out. But there is this provision that provides some clarity:

A ball being held by a player: (1) is in the frontcourt if neither the ball nor the player is touching the backcourt, (2) is in the backcourt if either the ball or player is touching the backcourt.

#1 above would apply since Chalmers and the ball weren’t in the backcourt as he caught the pass.

What ABC and other “experts” might be thinking is that Chalmers still had a backcourt status because he hadn’t established a position in the frontcourt yet, especially since the entire midcourt line is considered to be part of the backcourt.

But the rulebook only specifies a player has not attained frontcourt/backcourt status “until a player with the ball has established a positive position in either half during (1) a jump ball, (2) a steal by a defensive player, (3) a throw-in in the last two minutes of the fourth period and/or any overtime period or (4) any time the ball is loose.”

Since none of these 4 situations apply to Chalmers, then we have to throw out the whole argument of Chalmers needing to attain a position in the frontcourt before he catches the ball. That’s clearly not written here. As a result, we can only rely on the rule in blockquotes above, which has nothing to do with having frontcourt status first.

As a result, love it or hate it, the refs “no-call” involving Chalmers was the correct one, and his 3-pointer at the buzzer was legitimate.

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I'm sure Joe Mavs Fan will blame Danny Crawford though.

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Why do you think that? I personally haven't seen anybody blaming the loss last night on the refs.

The "somebody else" he mentioned and agreed with also happens to be a Mavs fan.

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It's unfortunate, but I really feel like it was actually the Mavericks who got the benefit of the doubt on most calls last night.

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Another Joe Mavs fan blaming the loss on the refs in this thread.

I think the Mavs have won 3 of the last 4 playoff games Crawford has reffed. Clearly biased towards Dallas.

the mavs are 2-1 this postseason in games reffed by danny crawford

I was at the game...I didn't see a definitive version of the 3, but this flop is atrocious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pYGtlTnWiE

Kind of like that traveling violation that turned into a wade foul on Kidd?