Not that I really care (it's a single regular season game), but wow. In a double OT game, Memphis was awarded all of 5FTs to LA's 34, despite the fact that they took 116 shots.

Memphis' bigs Gasol and Speights took a combined 45 shot attempts. They only got 1 FTA (Speights got it). Only 1 other player on the Griz got any FTs at all (Allen). So to review, Allen got 4 FTs, Speights got 1, and that was it.

I'm not a guy that thinks the FT numbers should always be close, but come on. 5FTs in 58 minutes of ball? Seems like the refs had money on the game

Oh, the best part: Memphis got 2 of its FTAs on technical fouls. So in other words, the refs whistled the lakers for 2 shooting fouls in 58 minutes. Less than 1 per half.

Again, I don't think the numbers have to be that close, but that's just bull****

[This message has been edited by atfarmer (edited 3/14/2012 12:40a).]

Yeah the foul on Bynum when he fell over after collecting a rebound was just dumb.

I thought best part was the phantom call on an untouched Matt Barnes (who stumbled and fell) was the best, and only made better by calling it a clear path foul.

le sigh. more complaints.

the reason why this was because the lakers took like double the shot attempts from the paint as the grizz.

Allen, Speights got on a role shooting midrange. Gasgol is primarily a midrange shooter. the lakers were in aggressive mode (bynum with 8 FTS), and kobe is very hard to stop from getting to the line when he wants (12 FT attempts). not to mention OJ mayo was shooting them out of the game with his $ of 3pt attempts.

Judging from your comments, i would be willing to bet that you didn't watch the game. the lakers were clearly the aggressors. and half the time the grizzlies got the easiest points every on layups, because the lakers had 18 freaking turnovers.


so please, stop your whining.

I will agree with Iowa on one thing. The phantom foul on matt barnes was a bad call, and a momentum changing play. one call was missed.

the bynum foul was clearly a foul. yes he fell stupidly, yes the whistle was late, but watching the replay Gasgol clearly raked him across the arm.

In the last two years, the Grizzlies have the highest percentage of points from the paint (1st last year, 3rd this year).


Last night, the Grizzlies took more shots in the paint than the Lakers.

Shots in the paint by quarter & OT:
LA: 9, 9, 5, 10, 6 = 39
Mem: 9, 11, 13, 8, 6 = 47


Kobe, Fisher, Bynum, Pau, and Artest/MWP combined for 6 foul calls in 207 minutes.

Ultimately, OJ Mayo going 7-25 (0-8 from 3) cost the Grizzlies the game (and not having Rudy and ZBo doesn't help).

The Grizzlies do foul a lot, though. I can't find the stat, but I remember that last year they fouled more than any team in the league.

Iowaggie....as i illustrated before, it's a skewed stat.

what you really need to look at is the attempts in halfcourt offense. the majority of the lakers 18 turnovers led to easy fast break layups for the grizz. those don't usually end in fouls, and normally are not the center of missed call controversy, as they are easier to see

look at the grizzlies shots minus the 18 turnovers the lakers had.

also, to hotard's point, their announcers made this comment during the game last night. they led the nba in steals, and also in fouls. such is the problem with being so aggressive on defense.

so 34-3 is still normal?

Ive witnessed biased ref screwjobs. Last night was not it.

It was not a result of the refs. It was a matter of the teams playing. The grizz got easy shots because thelakers are lazy as hell on the road. And the grizz were without two of their most aggressive players

Not a screwjob which implies predetermination, biased officiating.


It's the same reason why this foul is called on Tony Allen guarding Kevin Durant especially if KD has a bad shooting night going (video), but a similar call would never be called if D. Wade, Kobe, KD, etc are guarding Rudy Gay, Kyle Korver, Tony Allen, etc.

Phantom call to get KD going: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1asmcV2vIZI

I didn't watch the game, but two shooting fouls in 58 minutes on nearly 120 shot attempts is terrible officiating every single time it happens. Period, the end.

Again, I don't care, but that's indefensible. And I don't say that because they were playing the lakers. That would have been shockingly bad reffing no matter who the Grizz were up against.

Simple, your logic would explain a 34-15 FT discrepancy, but not 34-3.

An NBA team should never, ever get only 3FTAs in 58 minutes. That's bad officiating.

[This message has been edited by atfarmer (edited 3/14/2012 2:32p).]

One game tells nothing. Look at the average foul margin for the Lakers other road games, with emphasis toward those opponents who are in the middle or bottom of the league. Based on Simp's point, my guess is that you'll find other similar games. But then again, if you don't and the numbers you do find are totally out of whack, then you might have a point. But ultimately, you'll have to come up with specific plays because like one game, numbers only comparisons are meaningless.

I've seen halves with 16-1 (or similar) foul counts with nothing out of the ordinary. One team pressed (poorly) the entire half and the other played a very loose zone.

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Ive witnessed biased ref screwjobs. Last night was not it.

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Lakers/Kings 2002 WCF Game 6?

On the one hand, this was the prime of Shaq's career. Dude had 41 and 17 without even blinking, and was playing against Scott Pollard and 900 year old Vlade Divac. And according to a subjective review by 82games.com, the bias was not as bad as you think: http://82games.com/lakerskingsgame6.htm

on the other hand, it's not like this game was reffed by Tim Donaghy, the Lakers shot 27 free throws....in the 4th quarter alone, and were the NBA's marquee team compared to the Doug Christie's.

so....yes.

Gasol ruined World Peace's perfect night!!!

That's all I wanted to see tonight.


Edit: Eh...wrong thread, but I guess it didn't hurt to bring this up.

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