Kobe/Lebron vs. Jordan/Pippen

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Who's the better team?

Kobe/Lebron vs. Jordan/Pippen. The other 3 guys are the same. Everyone is in their prime season-

Kobe
30ppg, 6.9rpg, 5.9apg, 2.2spg, 45%FG, 38% 3pt, 84% FT

Lebron
30ppg, 7.9rpg, 7.2apg, 1.8spg, 48% FG, 31% 3pt, 71% FT

vs.

Jordan
32.5ppg, 8.0rpg, 8.0apg, 2.89spg, 54% FG, 28% 3pt, 85% FT

Pippen
22ppg, 8.7rpg, 5.6apg, 2.9spg, 49$ FG, 32% 3pt, 66% FT
Ryan34
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Are we assuming they are all in their prime? If so, then Kobe/Lebron. Why did you choose Pippen?
Head Ninja In Charge
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Jordan/Pippen. Next question.
Houston Summit
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Jordan > Kobe
LeBron >> Pippen

MJ and Kobe are clearly the Batman of their team. And I'll take Kobe and LBJ simply because LBJ is a better Robin than Pippen IMO
Know Your Enemy
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I have a hard time imagining LeBron & Kobe coexisting on the same team.
BBDP
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I would take Jordan and pippen.... Put Jordan on LJ and Jordan would get inside his head in 5 min... Announcers would have fun.
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If we're talking 2 on 2, I would take Jordan/Pippen. They have better chemistry being that they were teammates.

On talent, I would take Kobe/LBJ in a heartbeat because Lebron is light years better than Pippen. Its like comparing a Karl Malone that can drive, post up and shoot against Pippen.

If you want to compare teammates, I'll take Shaq/Kobe vs Pippen/Jordan.

And I never realized that Jordan was a crappy 3 point shooter.
Head Ninja In Charge
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I have a hard time imagining LeBron & Kobe coexisting on the same team.


This is where the premise falls apart. Arguing individual (duel?) talents and stats is one thing, but throwing these two duos in with three other guys is another. LeBron and Kobe have been great respectively, but who will relent if they're on the same team in their primes? Sure as hell won't be Kobe. That wouldn't be a natural partnership.

Michael and Scottie, on the other hand, make up the best duo in NBA history.

A tougher decision would be Shaq/Kobe versus Jordan/Pippen as mentioned above. I'd still take Jordan/Pippen, but Shaq/Kobe when they were really on were basically unstoppable.
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If Jordan was 6'6"... which I think is probably generous, Pippen was 6'8".

Both might be in the top 5 all time defenders in NBA history. Pippen would limit Lebron more than Lebron or KB could limit Jordan.

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Jordan/Pippen
Simplebay
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Put Jordan on LJ and Jordan would get inside his head in 5 min


blasphemy to think the 6'5 200lb Jordan could guard a 6'8" 250lb Lebron James?

By comparison, Lebron James is about the same size as Karl Malone. Jordan on Lebron would be a huge mistake.

oh...



[This message has been edited by Simplebay (edited 7/31/2012 2:55p).]
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Lebron is approximately 3 times as fast/agile/intelligent as Karl Malone.
BBDP
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Lebron is approximately 3 times as fast/agile/intelligent as Karl Malone.


Being ridiculous does not help your argument.

Lebron is faster, more agile than Karel..but he is not as fast or agile as MJ was.. probably a similar gap.
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There is no way that Jordan could guard Lebron.
Too big, too skilled, too good.


Pippen? Maybe
BBDP
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cab1984

What year were you born?

quote:
Bobby Knight on drafting Michael Jordan

Great story. In 1984, Coach Bobby Knight was coming off a gold-medal Olympic run with Michael Jordan. Knight was friends with then Portland Trailblazer GM, Stu Inman, and called to sell him on Jordan as their first pick in the upcoming NBA draft. With Clyde Drexler already on the team, Inman had other plans.
Inman: We need a center.
Bobby Knight: Then draft Jordan, and play him at center.


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There is no way that Jordan could guard Lebron.

It would not be the best match up for Jordan.... but he might surprise you.

[This message has been edited by BBDP (edited 8/2/2012 11:03a).]
Guitarsoup
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Jordan always guarded Magic



I think Jordan would do a great job. He was ferocious.
TR-Ag
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If you're picking the best two of an era why not Jordan and Hakeem? If that's the match up MJ+"The Dream" would destroy Kobe+LeBron, but that's not who you picked.

There were people that said a couple years ago LeBron was the fastest guy coast to coast in the league. One of the few players ever that can guard every position on the court...Magic even said in the end we can compare LeBron and MJ....and he wouldn't be surprised at all if LeBron overtakes MJ as the best of all time.

That being said I think the league was much deeper in Jordan's time vs. LeBron's time, but they're 2 players you can insert anywhere in basketball history and they'd still be great players. Kobe in Jordan's day wouldn't be the Kobe he is now.

It is fun to speculate though. LeBron being guarded by Pippen and Kobe guarding MJ. LeBron holds Pippen in check Kobe can't stop MJ. That being reversed MJ holds Kobe in check and Pippen can't stop LeBron. I honestly think this might end up being a tie if possessions stayed equal.

[This message has been edited by TRL-Ag (edited 8/3/2012 2:16a).]
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It would be interesting to see how disciplined LeBron's off-ball defense would be on Pippen. Jordan+Pippen would have a huge advantage in chemistry and Pippen was very good at moving off without the ball.

I think you would see a lot of Jordan and Pippen working together and a lot of Kobe and LeBron trying to go into Heroball mode to win, and that would be great for Jordan and Pippen.
BBDP
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Lebron is approximately 3 times as fast/agile/intelligent as Karl Malone.


Going back to this one; I noticed that Karl is in the top 20 for all time steals. Granted, he played forever, but he had extremely quick hands... but he played power forward. He did not guard the ball very often. It will be interesting to see LJs numbers when its all said and done.

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did a Houston person really add Akeem to this?

seriously?
Houston Summit
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No, I believe he said Hakeem. Not Akeem.

And I think he is 100% correct
Know Your Enemy
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If they were playing 2 on 2 in this fantasy world, you put Pippen on James and Jordan on Kobe. That is the best matchup for the Bulls duo.
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Hakeem was an awesome & underrated player. He should always be mentioned as the one of the best all-time centers/big men. Best back to the basket game of any big men ever and an awesome defender for being one of the smaller centers.

Being a Spurs/DRob fan and one who appreciates high character, he by all accounts in an all around good dude. I really disliked Houston during his years, but I appreciate the man.

Put him with MJ from the same era...unbeatable.

[This message has been edited by bmart97 (edited 8/6/2012 1:58p).]
Fat Bib Fortuna
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Pretty sure Pippen guarded Magic in the Finals in 1991.

BBDP
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"Best back to the basket game of any big men ever"

I would go with kareem abdul jabbar but he's up there.
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