Why did Becky Hammon choose to play basketball for Russia?

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She talks about it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7j8HfPUyFE

Football-related because Texas Aggies are extremely patriotic (we have American Flags flying around Kyle Field for Ags killed during WWI) - I consider it a huge part of being an Aggie - and I was kinda ignorantly pissed at her before seeing the above interview on ESPN's First Take. Now I understand and it makes sense to me.

[This message has been edited by billkemp (edited 8/12/2012 6:01p).]
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Take it to the Russia board
Loaded
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Do Russia have a board?
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1- basketball board
2- probably a MUCH better chance to make the Russian team.
TxAginAz
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Can she play on our football team as a DT?
BaileyAg
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still doesn't make sense to me
deadelephant98
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Because San Antonio is international to the point that there is not the same sense of patriotism.

That isn't a slam, it's just a fact.
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dedzip00
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I believe she plays her overseas ball I. Russia and was granted a russian citizenship. USA basket ball had passed on her not even inviting her to camp by the time they did she already commited to Russia.
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i just don't understand how this is even allowed. i have no problem with someone with SOME kind of heritage or background playing for another country, but to just up and decide to play for someone else just because your country doesn't ask you is ridiculous and waters down the Olympics.
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Wrong. With a military base every 60 feet, San Antonio is ridiculously patriotic. Hammon just wasn't good enough to play for the US team
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WOW Dead Elephant! Really? The folks at Ft. Sam, Camp Bullis, Lackland AFB, BAMC, etc., beg to differ.

Ask any of the hundreds of wounded warriors who choose to stay after their treatment, whether this is a patriotic city, and see what they tell you.

That was a really uninformed statement.
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quote:
I have no problem with someone with SOME kind of heritage or background playing for another country, but to just up and decide to play for someone else just because your country doesn't ask you is ridiculous and waters down the Olympics.


I completely agree. I would go even a bit further --- even for athletes with some heritage tie but have spent their entire lives in the USA... going to school, training, benefiting from what our country asks. I get it that these folks want to be olympians and perhaps would gladly represent the US team if offered, but may just not be good enough to make our team... Still. I am surprised the rules are so extremely relaxed.
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Rule #1... I think...
deadelephant98
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SA, seriously, no military comment. I was referencing the fact that the silver stars are following the spurs lead in international players that aren't going to play for the US even if they are invited.

Its an Internet post and maybe I didn't go into the depth to make sure my point was clear, but please don't take it as more than it was.
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DeadE- You just stepped in big puddle of Russian BS and you don't have the boots for it.
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deadelephant98
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Meh, I don't quite get that and some people is just nancies looking to get pissed off. I gave a sincere explanation of what I was saying and obviously wasn't intending to insult myself (being from SA) or the wounded warriors that I know or the one in my family.
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I prefer this look...

speedfreek
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she gets orgasmic for borscht..

TJ
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Nothing wrong with her playing for Russia. And nothing wrong with either the Spurs or the Silver Stars tapping into the international pool. They'd be foolish not to.

Go Spurs Go and Go Stars Go
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Who cares.
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For the San Antonio Board, the question would be...Is she a looper or not? We all know which is more patriotic.
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You guys are pathetic and, to use a phrase from the Zoo, Germans, not Russians, are bombing the moon. Becky was on Russia's 2008 Olympic team in Beijing. Once she made that team she is not able to play on any other country's team. Here's a link from a 2008 article on her decision.
http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=3336490
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who cares about 2008? how does that date change the argument? she still chose to play for another country because she wasn't good enough for the US team.

i wonder if I can be a downhill skier on the Tongan team for the Winter Olympics? i know the US wont take me...
Stockholm Syndrome
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You know what I hate?

People who answer their own questions...
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I don't get mad about it when the person can't qualify for the U.S. and has a legit connection to the other country.

The worst case though is Felix Sanchez, the 400 Meter hurdle champion.

Born in the U.S.A.
Raised in the U.S.A.
Educated in the U.S.A.
Trained in the U.S.A.
Given the chance to succeed by the U.S.A.

Competes for the Dominican Republic.

I'm sure he has some woe is me reason for doing it, that the media would weep over, but as far as I'm concerned, it's athletic treason.
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These are games, not war.
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I agree about Felix Sanchez. That's horse crap. There's also a basketball player on the Nigerian team from the US, born and raised. He's never even been to Nigeria! If you like Nigeria so much GTFO and move there!
BigJim49 AustinNowDallas
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All Star WNBA for years - not even asked to try out by USA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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San Antonio not being a patriotic town is one of the more ridiculous things I've read on Texags, which is impressive.

deadelephant - my interpretation of what you're saying having read the following posts is that the San Antonio Spurs pick up international players and that makes SA more international and less patriotic? Even if you're from SA and have members of the military in your family you have to admit your original post was going to tick people off. Try reading it as we did without knowing your actual intent.
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I have a problem with Becky doing this. Again, just like other posters said, if there's A connection...no matter how significant, then ok. But, NO ties?! Definitely waters down the sport and hurts the very sanctity of the Olympics. I fault the IOC and Becky herself for choosing to do this, along with Russia for placing somewhat of an unconnected "ringer" on their team. Trash....
BigJim49 AustinNowDallas
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Ringer? She plays in Russia more than she plays in San An.
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quote:
Definitely waters down the sport


How does that water down the sport? It seems to me like it would do the opposite. I am assuming she is replacing someone inferior on the Russia team and the US team didn't want her. So, she makes Russia stronger without making the US weaker? That seems to be increasing the level of competition.
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Jeebus!

The question was why Becky Hammond chose to play for Mother Russia.

I said that because SA is international to the point where there is "not the same sense of patriotism."

A couple people got offended so I clarified that I wasn't attacking SA or (somehow) attacking wounded warriors or other service men or women.

My point was that due to a more multicultural background in San Antonio and the fact that it is now common place for Spurs players to go off and play for other countries in the Olympics - there is "not the same sense of patriotism" in San Antonio in which media or fan bases might lash out at a player in terms of jersey or ticket sales or general bad will. I stand by that.

In my opinion, SA is further down this road then most cities or regions of the country. Again, personally, if I'm born here and don't make the team - I wouldn't go play for another country and potentially against the US. (this is a point of discussion that comes up often in SA sports media - but usually the consensus is - "that's just how it is and it's the athlete's right to do it.")

To me, if you go play against the US, you don't have "the same sense of patriotism" as I do. That's your right, here in America, though - kinda like how I can express that opinion - and you can then respond with yours.

The only reason I'm responding is because I'm a big supporter of our armed forces and my comment got interpreted by some as some sort of challenge to the dignity of wounded warriors.

I still don't get how anyone can argue (now that I've clarified) that because SA is more international and has a consistent record of Spurs players playing for other countries that there isn't the same "sense of patriotism" in which there might be more of a backlash against players that do so while playing in other cities. That's how Becky does it. She gets to go play for Putin, gets the Olympic experience, and SA as a community is generally ok with it. (Again, this is something that has been discussed quite a few times on SA sports radio with passionate, crazy people from both sides chiming in - but the consensus leans towards acceptance - which I don't think would be the case in most cities if their star player who was born and raised in America suddenly went over later in life and got naturalized citizenship with another country and decided to spend the "Olympic weeks" every four years as a citizen of that country to compete against America.)

As I said in the original post, not a slam, just a fact.

In the end, if you want to go rep a country that is run by organized crime against America, knock yourself out.

If you want to ***** and complain about my sentiment, feel free to do so as well.

If you want to twist what I said into some other sort of rascist, anti-military, or other anti-orphaned-puppies-with-incurable-diseases message after I've sincerely tried to explain that I had no such intention... well, again, that's your right too, but then again, this is a message board with a lot of drunks posting, you should probably relax, and I think that you and your mom are communists.

[This message has been edited by deadelephant98 (edited 8/13/2012 12:52p).]
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