Mark Cuban: "No chance."

Wow, supposedly he's pissed the way Kidd left for the Knicks.

[This message has been edited by Patrick Dean (edited 8/21/2012 11:08a).]

we don't know the story and it's Cube's team

That or he hasn't done anywhere near enough for Dallas to warrant hanging his jersey in the rafters.

Besides Dirk, who on the Mavs in the last few years is really "rafter-worthy"?

Well, what makes it somewhat surprising is that he basically said Jet's will be hanging up there, but no chance for Kidd.

1 NBA championship in franchise history, you have to think multiple jerseys from that team would be up there. The record/stats JKidd has put up in his career (despite somewhat limited time with Mavs) would make him seem likely, but "no chance" for the floor general

Just had no idea Cubes was pissed at JKidd.

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Besides Dirk, who on the Mavs in the last few years is really "rafter-worthy"?

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JET thinks he is.

Kidd also had two seasons for Mavs to start his career. But his career with Mavs is fairly limited.

Nets will retire his number.

Dirk will have his number retired...I think JET should as well.

The case for Kidd: I didn't realize Kidd had played a total of 8 years with the Mavs. A quick scan of the numbers shows him at about 10-9-5 with 1.8 steals and a solid A/T ratio for the Mavs. Started at PG for their title team.

The case against: Kidd only played for Dallas at the beginning and almost-end of his career; he spent his prime elsewhere. Left for another team after winning a title in Dallas. Never the franchise guy for Dallas, never a number one option, a defensive liability in the title run. While he racked up assists, the offense didn't run through him.


To me, there are two reasons for a team to retire a jersey: either a transcendent player who carried and became the face of a franchise even if it was only for 3-4 years, or a good player who dedicated his career to the franchise. Overall Kidd was a good player for the Mavs, with a career worthy of the Hall of Fame and the kind of guy who is a no-brainer if he had spent his whole career in Dallas. On the other hand, if you ask people to picture Jason Kidd they see him in a Nets jersey. That kind of clinches it for me. He's not REALLY a Dallas guy, which he showed by bailing for New York.

Not a Mavs fan, but how could you NOT retire JET's number. I hated him, but no denying his dominance (plus I hear he's actually a good guy).

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Not a Mavs fan, but how could you NOT retire JET's number. I hated him, but no denying his dominance (plus I hear he's actually a good guy)

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So you won't retire a starting PG, one of the best in NBA history, but you'll retire a 6th man's jersey?

If Kidd would have played more years for the Mavs, especially more playoff years, then retiring his number would be a no brainer.

Terry may be delusional and a bum in some respects, but he's a Mav that you will always remember as a Mav. Kidd in a Nets jersey, hitting his wife over french fries, seeing his baby's huge head on television every game (Thanks Guy Torry), and in a backcourt with Kerry Kittles is how I'll always remember him.

Those things and him racing Randy Travis at Drunk Man's curve.

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So you won't retire a starting PG, one of the best in NBA history, but you'll retire a 6th man's jersey?

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Terry played 30-35 minutes a game for what, 8 seasons?, and scoring 15-20 a game.

While Kidd did some good things here and certainly had the better career, do you think his impact was on the Mavericks was greater than or equal to Terry's?

I'd go with Dirk, Finley, Davis, Blackman, Jet.
Only ones worthy so far.

Harper too

JET definitely deserves to have his number in the rafters.

Only player besides Dirk to be on the both the Mavs Finals team.

Kidd played here for 5 playoff seasons and was absolute garbage in 4 of them 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2012.

No way he deserves to have his number retired.

He's now left here twice under questionable circumstances.

He's more of a Net or Sun then Mav.

Vinnie Johnson was a career 6th man...... His number hangs in the rafters in Auburn Hills. Its all in context to your contribution to the team you're a part of (and he has 2 rings)

So only starters deserve to have their jerseys retired? So because Manu has only started 51% of his career games..... he doesn't deserve to have his jersey retired by the Spurs. Because Terry has only started 61% of his career games.

I wonder if it would somewhat hurt Jet if he plays well for the Celtics for 3-4 years.

Right now, 8 of 13 years in Dalls.

If he plays in Boston 3 years, than only half his time is in Dallas.

Probably doesn't matter.