Mario Chalmers wont go for 20 again. Lebron can always go for 30 but Im hoping the spurs can hold him to around 20-25 like they did early in the series. Danny Green will score more than 3 points. Spurs will shoot better than 27% from 3 and 43% from the field. Ginobili wont have 8 turnovers. Spurs are fine.
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Agreed
Rangers-Cardinals game 7 will happen.
Whatever gets you through this.
The Spurs threw everything but the kitchen sink at them for 3 qtrs and then one more time with 2 minutes to go before gagging it away.
They have the guts but will simply not have enough energy to get this done.
Their only hope is that Green is on fire and Leonard comes up big. I would not expect much from Duncan or Ginobili. Parker will need to come up big.
The Spurs got a huge advantage from the league when they had the 3 day gap between game 4 and game 5 (still not sure why the NBA has a problem playing on Saturday nights). While they have some young legs their are also some old, tired bodies out there.
Conversely, the Heat are going to get a huge lift out of their comeback. I will not be surprised if they are up by 15+ at halftime Thursday night.
The Spurs threw everything but the kitchen sink at them for 3 qtrs and then one more time with 2 minutes to go before gagging it away.
They have the guts but will simply not have enough energy to get this done.
Their only hope is that Green is on fire and Leonard comes up big. I would not expect much from Duncan or Ginobili. Parker will need to come up big.
The Spurs got a huge advantage from the league when they had the 3 day gap between game 4 and game 5 (still not sure why the NBA has a problem playing on Saturday nights). While they have some young legs their are also some old, tired bodies out there.
Conversely, the Heat are going to get a huge lift out of their comeback. I will not be surprised if they are up by 15+ at halftime Thursday night.
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The Spurs got a huge advantage from the league when they had the 3 day gap between game 4 and game 5 (still not sure why the NBA has a problem playing on Saturday nights).
The NBA and NHL don't play against each other. Stanley Cup game 2 was Sat, game 1 was Wed.
NBA has Tuesdays, Thursday and Sundays. NHL has Monday, Wednesday and Saturday.
It isn't a gift from the league. Just normal scheduling that happens every year. Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday. Same thing for Thunder/Heat last year.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/OKC/2012_games.html
Silver,
Where you one of the many folks that expected for Game 6 to be a blowout as well?
There is no predicting this series but I would be floored if the Spurs didn't leave it all out on the line. It's not like they played a perfect game last night by any stretch and they nearly won going away. Fundamentally the Spurs have been beating themselves more than the Heat have been beating them. If Manu either plays decently or doesn't play at all in Game 6 its not close, we saw in Game 5 how much his play can shift the balance.
Also, the Heat are the team with more old players than the Spurs. Duncan is certainly long in the tooth but he is in ridiculous shape and has been used sparingly all season. More importantly, the Heat don't have anyone that has worn him down. Bosh and Anderson are a joke to him. If you don't think he won't muster up the energy for what may be his last chance at a ring you don't know the man. He is the strongest kind of competitor, the kind who you underestimate because they don't talk smack or show off. He just beats your ass. The only way they stopped him last night was because Pop inexplicably took him out of the game when it mattered most.
Where you one of the many folks that expected for Game 6 to be a blowout as well?
There is no predicting this series but I would be floored if the Spurs didn't leave it all out on the line. It's not like they played a perfect game last night by any stretch and they nearly won going away. Fundamentally the Spurs have been beating themselves more than the Heat have been beating them. If Manu either plays decently or doesn't play at all in Game 6 its not close, we saw in Game 5 how much his play can shift the balance.
Also, the Heat are the team with more old players than the Spurs. Duncan is certainly long in the tooth but he is in ridiculous shape and has been used sparingly all season. More importantly, the Heat don't have anyone that has worn him down. Bosh and Anderson are a joke to him. If you don't think he won't muster up the energy for what may be his last chance at a ring you don't know the man. He is the strongest kind of competitor, the kind who you underestimate because they don't talk smack or show off. He just beats your ass. The only way they stopped him last night was because Pop inexplicably took him out of the game when it mattered most.
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Ginobili wont have 8 turnovers
Judging by his entire postseason, this isn't a guarantee
Hard to predict this series. I've watched every minute so far and I don't get the feeling that Miami is the superior team. I feel like the Spurs have outplayed Miami for most of the series, even last night.
But game 7 is a small sample size. All it takes is one hot streak by a role player and the championship will be won. If you are a Spurs fan then you need to get your voodoo dolls out. It can come at any random moment. We are actually a Shane Battier banked 3 pointer away (i.e. luck) from this series already being over. Gonna be a crazy game.
But game 7 is a small sample size. All it takes is one hot streak by a role player and the championship will be won. If you are a Spurs fan then you need to get your voodoo dolls out. It can come at any random moment. We are actually a Shane Battier banked 3 pointer away (i.e. luck) from this series already being over. Gonna be a crazy game.
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Where you one of the many folks that expected for Game 6 to be a blowout as well?
Absolutely not. I assumed the Spurs would know that their best chance to win this series was to take game 6. I think they (especially Duncan) came out with a lot of energy and even though they made mistakes, it looked like they had enough to take this one.
I was really shocked that the Heat allowed themselves to get down as much as they did. I was really questioning their heart at times, even late in the 4th when they could not get their lead to 5-7 pts to put the Spurs away. Wade looked awful and their posessions from 3 minutes up to the las 30 seconds were terrible. Nobody wanted to step up. But they got their miracle.
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Conversely, the Heat are going to get a huge lift out of their comeback. I will not be surprised if they are up by 15+ at halftime Thursday night.
You know, I thought the same thing in 2011 when the Spurs beat Memphis in very similar fashion as last night's game. Granted, there are big differences, but I thought that game would swing momentum to the Spurs.
Even more recently, remember the Golden State series where after Game 1 everyone thought the Warriors might just fold. They responded though and won a tough game on the road.
Miami won just one game last night. Like Lebron said after Game 3, in the end it is just one game. One thing we have seen is that there hasn't been much carry over from game to game.
Miami still has some issues. Did anyone notice what prompted the Spurs run at the end of the 4th? It just happened to coincide with Wade coming back in the game. When Lebron is in beast mode, he can literally take over the game. When Wade came back in, he tried to do the same and it killed Lebron's mojo...I think the Heat would have won going away if Wade doesn't come back in last night...
I would be very surprised if it was a blowout either way...not saying it can't happen, but I think we are in for an epic dog fight to the finish...
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When Wade came back in, he tried to do the same and it killed Lebron's mojo...I think the Heat would have won going away if Wade doesn't come back in last night...
I agree with that. However, Mike Miller was toast at that point.
You have a really tough decision there if you are Spo. Go with Miller who is gassed, Battier, who hasn't been very good on either end of the court in the playoffs or Wade who can kill the Mojo by ball hogging and bricking bad shot choices.
After literally every game in this series, people have tried to proclaim that the losing team had finally succumbed to the better team. If this series has proven anything, it is that momentum doesn't carry over from one game to the next with these two teams. They are too good, too well coached, and too experienced.
Ok Silver, you are one of the very few then.
The fact the Spurs played that poorly and still should have won is just as important as anything. Manu was practically making it 6 on 4 at times last night he was so bad, not only not scoring for SA but creating opportunities for the Heat. That was also the worst coaching performance by Pop I think I have ever seen in terms of not recognizing what was working and what wasn't.
Realize as well that the Heat played an amazing game outside of Wade. Lebron was out of his mind. Bosh was making jumpers, getting huge rebounds, and scoring down low. Chalmers was shooting by far the best he has all series. Battier made some 3's he hasn't made all series. Allen made that incredible clutch 3 at the end and was very effective.
For the Spurs the only two players that really had good games were Duncan and Leonard. Diaw also had a pretty good game. Parker was below average. Green was a non factor for most of the game. Manu was horrifically bad. Splitter was mediocre. Neal was mediocre to bad.
It all depends on who comes to play for Game 7.
The fact the Spurs played that poorly and still should have won is just as important as anything. Manu was practically making it 6 on 4 at times last night he was so bad, not only not scoring for SA but creating opportunities for the Heat. That was also the worst coaching performance by Pop I think I have ever seen in terms of not recognizing what was working and what wasn't.
Realize as well that the Heat played an amazing game outside of Wade. Lebron was out of his mind. Bosh was making jumpers, getting huge rebounds, and scoring down low. Chalmers was shooting by far the best he has all series. Battier made some 3's he hasn't made all series. Allen made that incredible clutch 3 at the end and was very effective.
For the Spurs the only two players that really had good games were Duncan and Leonard. Diaw also had a pretty good game. Parker was below average. Green was a non factor for most of the game. Manu was horrifically bad. Splitter was mediocre. Neal was mediocre to bad.
It all depends on who comes to play for Game 7.
I think Tony is dead meat. He's gassed and his hammy is going to feel like crap on Thursday. None of his jumpers were going in last night and I feel like that had to do with not getting the right lift off a pulled hammy. Unless Manu plays like he did in game 5, Spurs will lose in a blowout. It sucks. There's about a 1/10 chance Spurs win tomorrow.
The thing that scares me most is the free throw shooting. Manu used to make EVERYTHING in the playoffs. These playoffs he's been good for several clutch misses every game. Something isn't right with him. Idk if it's his body or his head.
The thing that scares me most is the free throw shooting. Manu used to make EVERYTHING in the playoffs. These playoffs he's been good for several clutch misses every game. Something isn't right with him. Idk if it's his body or his head.
Forget game Six.
GSG -- Eliminate the Heat.
GSG -- Eliminate the Heat.
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I think Tony is dead meat. He's gassed and his hammy is going to feel like crap on Thursday. None of his jumpers were going in last night and I feel like that had to do with not getting the right lift off a pulled hammy.
No one's jumpers fell the entire game.
The Spurs were 7-37 on shots outside the paint and 0-6 on shots from the corner 3.
That doesnt make me feel better soup.
I think it is extremely unlikely the Spurs shoot as poorly again as they did in game 6.
Spurs were 7-37 from outside the paint. Miami was 20-46.
8 turnovers by Manu
Miami was 10-14 by Allen/Miller/Battier/Chalmers for three
Spurs were just 5-18 from three
Spurs gave up 12 offensive rebounds
Parker was just 6-23
Green was 1-7
Yet the Spurs had control of the game going into the last 30 seconds. They played pretty poorly throughout. One decent game from everyone and the Spurs win it all. Doesn't even have to be good from everyone. Just give me some goodness. I think they have it in them.
Spurs were 7-37 from outside the paint. Miami was 20-46.
8 turnovers by Manu
Miami was 10-14 by Allen/Miller/Battier/Chalmers for three
Spurs were just 5-18 from three
Spurs gave up 12 offensive rebounds
Parker was just 6-23
Green was 1-7
Yet the Spurs had control of the game going into the last 30 seconds. They played pretty poorly throughout. One decent game from everyone and the Spurs win it all. Doesn't even have to be good from everyone. Just give me some goodness. I think they have it in them.
If Parker was done then why did he make that huge 3 and the driving floater afterward at the end of the 4th? I agree he isn't 100% but he's not out. He looks healthier than Wade imo.
The Spurs managed to snatch defeat from victory last night. That's a shame. They should have won that ball game, IMO.
Sometimes you wonder if it is all "rigged" with all the money involved and most of the playoff games go seven games.
Surely not !!
[This message has been edited by Aggies (edited 6/19/2013 2:20p).]
Sometimes you wonder if it is all "rigged" with all the money involved and most of the playoff games go seven games.
Surely not !!
[This message has been edited by Aggies (edited 6/19/2013 2:20p).]
There have only been 5 game 7's in the past 30 years of the Finals (1984,1988,1994, 2005,2010)
I'm not buying a conspiracy to get an extra game.
I'm not buying a conspiracy to get an extra game.
It's better for basketball for the game to go 7 but I don't buy "the fix was in" at all. The odds of Miami winning when down 5 points with 28 seconds to play are about 50 to 1, Spurs just choked it away.
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The Spurs managed to snatch defeat from victory last night.
Big time.
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It's better for basketball for the game to go 7 but I don't buy "the fix was in" at all. The odds of Miami winning when down 5 points with 28 seconds to play are about 50 to 1, Spurs just choked it away.
Indeed.
The problem with conspiracies is that way too many people have to be involved for it to occur. And it is unlikely that Stern can compensate someone more than they would stand to make by making a tell-all book and selling interviews about how the league was rigged.
Eventually someone is going to want to make a name for themselves or will run into some type of financial difficulty or decide it is time to set their kids up for life.
When you take out Manu's TOs, the Spurs only had 7. 
The Heat also had 15 total TOs but we didn't score off of them as much. I love Manu and what he did in Game 5 but he was the reason we lost. I know he was trying to draw the foul in overtime but he should have known he didn't have that call because the refs were going to swallow the whistles. He fouled Bosh (ended up missing the and-1) and his turnovers were so horrible. He kept killing drives all over the place.
If Manu can reduce his negative contribution by 50 - 75% then we can win game 7. If he plays like this again, we lose big.
Interesting stat:
Spurs Assists: 13
Heat Assists: 23
The Heat also had 15 total TOs but we didn't score off of them as much. I love Manu and what he did in Game 5 but he was the reason we lost. I know he was trying to draw the foul in overtime but he should have known he didn't have that call because the refs were going to swallow the whistles. He fouled Bosh (ended up missing the and-1) and his turnovers were so horrible. He kept killing drives all over the place.
If Manu can reduce his negative contribution by 50 - 75% then we can win game 7. If he plays like this again, we lose big.
Interesting stat:
Spurs Assists: 13
Heat Assists: 23
Abnormally bad assist totals by the Spurs.
I agree that the spurs played poorly (relatively) still should've won, but it looks worse the way it happened. They come out blazing tomorrow.
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The Spurs threw everything but the kitchen sink at them for 3 qtrs and then one more time with 2 minutes to go before gagging it away.
The Heat were in a must-win situation and threw everything they had at the Spurs as well, and the Spurs still had to basically beat themselves to lose that game.
There's no reason to believe the Spurs can't play with the same intensity tomorrow night, if not more so. And as some have mentioned, the Spurs didn't exactly play great either.
If Manu can muster ANYTHING and not hurt his team or if Pop gets the nuts to bench his a** after he commits his 4th turnover in 10 minutes, I think the Spurs win.
I personally think Manu becomes a net positive for the Spurs in Game 7 as he stepped up again like he did in his final game in San Antonio.
Also, look for Duncan to come out and give every last drop of everything he has left in his body for what will be his final NBA game before riding off into the sunset hoisting his 5th O'Brien
On a side note, next year, Parker will get to see what Dirk had to go through trying to defend a title with a team that becomes a shell of it's former self overnight.
I personally think Manu becomes a net positive for the Spurs in Game 7 as he stepped up again like he did in his final game in San Antonio.
Also, look for Duncan to come out and give every last drop of everything he has left in his body for what will be his final NBA game before riding off into the sunset hoisting his 5th O'Brien
On a side note, next year, Parker will get to see what Dirk had to go through trying to defend a title with a team that becomes a shell of it's former self overnight.
I really think the Spurs have a good shot. I think they will put game 6 behind them. I'm most concerned about their bodies holding up.
But also concerned about Lebron.
But also concerned about Lebron.
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Also, look for Duncan to come out and give every last drop of everything he has left in his body for what will be his final NBA game before riding off into the sunset hoisting his 5th O'Brien
Who said anything about Duncan retiring?
No one...
Just my prediction. I think if they win, he knows this is their last run and will decide to retire as a champion.
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Just my prediction. I think if they win, he knows this is their last run and will decide to retire as a champion.
[This message has been edited by Groosome (edited 6/19/2013 4:30p).]
Why? The Spurs are in pretty good shape contract wise.
Duncan, Parker, Leonard, Green, Bonner, and Joseph are all signed. Manu's $14 million contract is ending. Diaw has a player option that he will likely take. Splitter is a FA and Neal is a FA that the Spurs will likely make qualifying offers to and have a good chance of retaining.
In spite of the "Old Spurs" dogma the only 2 over 31 are Duncan, Manu, and Bonner. I could see Manu retiring or coming back on the cheap but either way the Spurs have a lot of financial flexibility (Jackson's $10 million deal is off the books as well). The Spurs could possibly even go after a Max Free Agent.
Duncan, Parker, Leonard, Green, Bonner, and Joseph are all signed. Manu's $14 million contract is ending. Diaw has a player option that he will likely take. Splitter is a FA and Neal is a FA that the Spurs will likely make qualifying offers to and have a good chance of retaining.
In spite of the "Old Spurs" dogma the only 2 over 31 are Duncan, Manu, and Bonner. I could see Manu retiring or coming back on the cheap but either way the Spurs have a lot of financial flexibility (Jackson's $10 million deal is off the books as well). The Spurs could possibly even go after a Max Free Agent.
Duncan needs to go quicker in the post
Why are three guys collapsing in on a Ray Allen drive?
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