10 months of Astros (and all teams they talked with) trade discussions hacked
4,628 Views |
39 Replies |
Last: 10 yr ago by Aggie1205
just saw this too. I don't think it's real
Guitarsoup
Joined:
Oct 3, 2001
Posts:
97,251
How long do you want to ignore this user?
was reading through those earlier. Would be nuts if real.
quote:
DCameronFG: Friend in the game confirms Astros leaked documents are legit. Kind of amazing.
quote:
[Luhnow] talked to [Marlins GM Dan Jennings] and said we had interest in Stanton. DJ said he doesn't think he'll trade Stanton and the only deal he could think of from us that would work would be Springer and Correa. JL said that would not work. JL posited a deal around Cosart and Deshields.
Cosart & DeShields for Stanton would have been nuts. I can see why we didn't do Springer & CC, but that would have been interesting.
Cosart and Deshields for Stanton would be pure traderape...
[This message has been edited by E (edited 6/30/2014 1:53p).]
[This message has been edited by E (edited 6/30/2014 1:53p).]
quote:
[Rangers GM Jon Daniels] expressed interest in Castro and Singleton, said they were deep at pitching and middle infield.
Oh what a difference 6 months can make.
Now I see how Luhnow traded Lee. Someone will eventually bite at a ridiculous offer.
From what I'm seeing they are real and the Astros' database was hacked.
Kinda sucks they were hacked and may not be good PR with other teams but as a fan it's kinda cool to see the behind the scenes scenarios that never make it to the public.
Kinda sucks they were hacked and may not be good PR with other teams but as a fan it's kinda cool to see the behind the scenes scenarios that never make it to the public.
quote:
jonmorosi: Regarding leaked notes, Astros say "a portion of the material was embellished or completely fabricated." FBI notified of breach
Who knows how much was "embellished" or if that is just them putting doubt out there to cover their ass one some of these.
quote:quote:
jonmorosi: Regarding leaked notes, Astros say "a portion of the material was embellished or completely fabricated." FBI notified of breach
Who knows how much was "embellished" or if that is just them putting doubt out there to cover their ass one some of these.
This is my vote.
Ass covering, although I don't think any of it is bad. And it's not like they were intentionally talking out of school on this.
quote:
Cosart and Deshields for Stanton would be pure traderape...]
That silly-ass "counter" was surely met with nonstop laughter on Miami's end of the phone.
quote:Yeah, but a lot of it you just don't want your players to know you're putting them on the block if the deal doesn't happen. It's part of the game but you prefer keeping it hidden if/when possible. Some orgs are great some suck or don't care.
Ass covering, although I don't think any of it is bad
Can't blame a GM for trying to improve his team.
quote:quote:Yeah, but a lot of it you just don't want your players to know you're putting them on the block if the deal doesn't happen. It's part of the game but you prefer keeping it hidden if/when possible. Some orgs are great some suck or don't care.
Ass covering, although I don't think any of it is bad
Right, but everyone knows GM's are working deals. I also think it is a different dynamic with a building team vs established veterans that have skins on the wall there, of which the Astros have zero. It was also reaffirmation of their faith in some of their players/prospects. And again, it's not like word got out about a player being moved before it actually happened.
[This message has been edited by DannyDuberstein (edited 6/30/2014 8:46p).]
As a Ranger fan it's depressing that the white sox GM said Leury Garcia was untouchable.
no doubt the 'stros are trying to save face by saying some of the released info was bogus
quote:
As a Ranger fan it's depressing that the white sox GM said Leury Garcia was untouchable.
Pretty sure that is Avisail Garcia not Leury.
But the cards are such a classy organization
Moneyball 2: Luhnow's Revenge
I'll be there opening night
I'll be there opening night
Those are some dirty mother****ers...
I'm sure some of those cats will have jobs waiting for them with the New England Patriots after they get out of federal prison.
I've got to imagine that MLB will crush the Cardinals for this...this would be tantamount to an NFL team hacking radio signals to listen in on in-game sideline feeds. If that was ever found out, the NFL would nuke that franchise back to expansion status through firings, fines, lost draft picks, etc.
As it pertains to baseball where scouting/development/front office strategy is the biggest part of the game, this would be analogous.
As it pertains to baseball where scouting/development/front office strategy is the biggest part of the game, this would be analogous.
This is a HUGE deal if it's proven to be the cardinals.... huge.
Astros get to pick any 3 players in the Card organization, Cards have to keep paying the players while they play fo the Astros and we call it even! Sounds fair, no?
How would they get access to the database? I get the part that they used his passwords from his time with the Cardinals, but how would they get access to the website? Shouldn't the website have been on the Astros' intranet site that would not be accessible offsite without VPN-Ing onto the corporate server?
That is why it was more than just a simple password hack. They hacked into the network, and then probably used the passwords to help (though the passwords were probably irrelevant at that point as they could've gotten past those as well once they got in the network.
Wonder how high up this went. Couple of low level guys with too much time or someone with real power?
low level guys aren't hacking without the permission of their bosses.
quote:Why would you believe it is any more difficult to use his credentials to login to a VPN than it would a database server?
Shouldn't the website have been on the Astros' intranet site that would not be accessible offsite without VPN-Ing onto the corporate server?
I'm in meetings this week traveling, but look up houstonastros.com (or whatever their domain is), look at their pointers... likely have one for something like vpn.houstonastros.com... use his credentials... profit.
quote:
low level guys aren't hacking without the permission of their bosses.
How do you know?
http://deadspin.com/everyone-involved-in-the-cardinals-hacking-scandal-seem-1711682201
quote:
You can't even give them credit for being l337 H4x0rs because all these dummies did was use one of the old passwords Astros GM Jeff Luhnow used when he worked for the Cardinals, and they did it from their own ******* home,
quote:
It would be harder for someone to hack into your Twitter account and change your picture to a big ***** than it was for vengeful baseball nerds to gain access to a rival team's sacred database.
Featured Stories
See All
8:49
4h ago
1.2k
Setting the Scene: Aggies square off with red-hot Sooners in Nashville
by Luke Evangelist
McMillan makes SEC Tourney debut on Thursday
by Olin Buchanan
17:06
8h ago
1.6k
Keys to the Game: #6 Texas A&M vs. #11 Oklahoma (SEC Tournament)
by Luke Evangelist
6:50
2h ago
414
Adversity adds fuel for Ariel Kowalewski as SEC play begins
by Kay Naegeli
AggieNattie
A loss tonight seems to help us more than it hurts us
in Billy Liucci's TexAgs Premium
57
brewcrewag
for those who get frustrated with A&M baseball - The USA is in danger of elimination
in Billy Liucci's TexAgs Premium
50