Nelson Cruz signs with Mariners

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ORAggieFan
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4 years, $57 mil. Don't love it, but at least it's money and not prospects and really not that huge in this day and age.
mhayden
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Not really a good deal $$$ wise, but gotta give credit to Seattle -- they are going after it.
ORAggieFan
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I think we say not good money wise on every FA deal these days. I hate giving up the draft pick though, so now they need to go sign another with a QO.

In the end, money only matters to teams with low budgets. New TV contracts and MLB profits have it to where most teams have a ton of money. You can overpay or trade away prospects. It's not my money, so go overpay.
TREX01
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Seattle has a small window with King Felix. Need to get to the postseason and give him a chance to dominate. They are most def going all in, if it doesn't work out they are going to have one horrible rebuild on the backside of these contracts.
DeangeloVickers
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We've got Smolinski

DallasAg 94
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His numbers will resemble 2012 and they will fall off the cliff from there.

Dumb Dumb Dumb

This is why the Mariners don't have nice things.
DannyDuberstein
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Fangraphs has it as an early contender for worst signing of the offseason.
Mr.Bond
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Not a Smart move at all
ORAggieFan
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quote:
Fangraphs has it as an early contender for worst signing of the offseason.
I respect a lot of what Dave Cameron writes, but he has a hatred for the Mariners front office (despite supposedly loving the Mariners) and writes as if he is the smartest person and everyone else is wrong.

The problem is, he links signings in a vacuum. He'd like a team with a $50 mil payroll if that payroll produces a better WAR/$ than one with a $100 mil payroll.

What people don't understand here is how awful the M's have been at DH. Last year they batted .190. And that really isn't all that different than the last few years. Additionally, they are DESPERATE for right handed power. And real power as you don't hit homers into the power alleys at Safeco w/o hitting it over 100 mph. That basically left Cruz or attempt 3 with Michael Morse.

I really don't care if years 3 and 4 are overpays. All I care about now is does this give them a chance at the playoffs. I think this gives them more than a one win upgrade over Hart/Morales they had at DH last year and they missed the playoffs by one win. They currently have the 2nd highest projected WAR of any roster. Obviously that changes, but they see a window with two elite players in their prime (Felix and Cano), two other very good all-stars (Seager and Iwakuma) and other solid role players and are taking it.

In the end, it's just not that much money today to care if it's bad. They've staggered the contracts so they will basically always have $15-$25 mil in sunken costs starting in a few years spread out over a period of time. But, many teams do that win and with today's contract it just isn't that big of a deal.
DeangeloVickers
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I can't think straight on any decisions with Cruz....his crap defense and World Series blunder still cloud all rational thoughts
ORAggieFan
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Now news I can get mad about, M's traded Michael Saunders to Blue Jays for J.A. Happ.....
Mr.Bond
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Have fun with happ. Guy was ****ing garbage in Houston
ORAggieFan
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Less valuable and double the cost of Saunders when M's need OF depth and have plenty of #5 starters.
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