Deadspin had a post linking to this WSJ article that brings up the fact that "batting around" doesn't actually have an official definition and MLB doesn't track it as a statistic. I thought I'd see what TexAgs made of this, so what do y'all say? Is batting around when all 9 batters in the order come to the plate in an inning or is it when the first batter has a second at bat in the inning?

I've always been under the impression that batting around means 9 complete at bats in an inning, but now that I hear the other side I don't know what side to take.

Amazing to me that someone at the WSJ bothered to write about it, but I'd say batting around is 9 at bats. The entire order batted.

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I'd say the alternate -- batting around is when a player that already batted comes to the plate again in the same inning.

If just 9 go up, it's batting all the way through the lineup. To bat around a player has to "come back around at-bat" IMO.

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This is what I would say as well

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I'd say the alternate -- batting around is when a player that already batted comes to the plate again in the same inning.

If just 9 go up, it's batting all the way through the lineup. To bat around a player has to "come back around at-bat" IMO.

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This is what I would say as well

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Same

I think both can be used, you can bat around through the lineup as well as bat around in an inning.

I've always thought it was a silly term.

That is probably something I've never spent ANY time contemplating (9 or 10 players batting). In fact, it wouldn't have surprised me to have said (or not objected to someone else saying) batted around with only 8 actually getting up. What is likely is, I've said something like "They batted around? So nobody got out?"

I'd say I agree that technically the same guy needed to reach to plate twice. But if someone got a BB, HBP or a Sac, they technically didn't get an AB. And if someone got out (specifically struck out)... they didn't really "bat" now did they.

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I'd say the alternate -- batting around is when a player that already batted comes to the plate again in the same inning.

If just 9 go up, it's batting all the way through the lineup. To bat around a player has to "come back around at-bat" IMO.

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Is this thread real?

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I'd say the alternate -- batting around is when a player that already batted comes to the plate again in the same inning.

If just 9 go up, it's batting all the way through the lineup. To bat around a player has to "come back around at-bat" IMO.

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So, how far does one have to go to go around a one mile track? 1 1/9 mile?

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I'd say the alternate -- batting around is when a player that already batted comes to the plate again in the same inning.

If just 9 go up, it's batting all the way through the lineup. To bat around a player has to "come back around at-bat" IMO.

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So, how far does one have to go to go around a one mile track? 1 1/9 mile?

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I consider a lineup linear, so to "bat around", it has to re-connect to the first batter -- and to do that in one inning that batter has to come up to bat again.

Just the nomenclature as I've always taken it.

A double is when you get a hit and go for at least two bases.

An out is when you retire a runner.

So why is it called a double play despite a baseball "double" not occurring? Why is it not termed a "double out" ?

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I'd say the alternate -- batting around is when a player that already batted comes to the plate again in the same inning.

If just 9 go up, it's batting all the way through the lineup. To bat around a player has to "come back around at-bat" IMO.

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Bingo!

I always considered batting around to be 9 plate appearances in a half inning. Even if the 9th guy makes the last out, you're still back "around" to the same spot in the order for the next half inning. If you spin a wheel around exactly once, it stops in the same spot it started.

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I've always thought it was a silly term.

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Not as silly as "walk-off home run." I have always loathed that term.

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I've ****ing had it with this bull****. You guys come here and just ****ing post about whatever the **** you want. How the **** is this supposed to help the ****ing Reds win?

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Blue star for you!