Judge getting doubled off

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12:17p, 10/20/19
Was that an absolutely historic baserunning fail ?
or i am missing something?
personally Dont watch a great deal of MLB as a kid went to the dome to watch the Astos. Looking for a more informed opinion on that play.

Hats off to Brantley getting a great jump and making the catch , does not seem like Judge got the level of criticiism in the broadcast he deserved. I am guessing as the face of the Yankees he is getting a pass.
i was bouncing between the Ags and Astros so maybe missed the criticism of Judge

I will hang up and listen
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12:22p, 10/20/19
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12:33p, 10/20/19
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It was 100% a tootblan.
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12:34p, 10/20/19
AG
Judge was thinking third base if it dropped
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In reply to astros4545 • 12:38p, 10/20/19
astros4545 said:
Judge was thinking third base if it dropped
And possibly home if it got behind Brantley.
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12:49p, 10/20/19
AG
If it worked, Judge would have been a hero. Down in an elimination game I don't think I would mind seeing our guys grind one out like that. It sucks to see when it's your team though.

But I do think it directly contributed to the Yankees loss. I'm not sure Harris could have held on at that point. He definitely wouldn't have finished the inning with two on and 1 out.
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2:26p, 10/20/19
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Why wasn't Altuve going to cover 2nd?
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2:41p, 10/20/19
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That ball had about a 1% chance of getting caught. I don't blame him for thinking about third or possibly home. Just and outstanding play by Brantley in a crucial moment.
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3:06p, 10/20/19
AG
I originally thought that he went all the way to second in case Brantley couldn't get to it and catch it on a bounce and throw him out at 2nd. Is that not what y'all thought?
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In reply to JYDog90 • 3:14p, 10/20/19
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willie wonka said:
I originally thought that he went all the way to second in case Brantley couldn't get to it and catch it on a bounce and throw him out at 2nd. Is that not what y'all thought?
I don't think he ever thought Brantley was going to catch it. He was thinking about third base.
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3:41p, 10/20/19
It looked like Judge started to slow around the halfway point, but then decided Brantley wouldn't catch it and sped up. I wonder if from his angle he didn't have a good look at it, or maybe he's just dumb.

Also, running back it looked like he tried to get in the path of the throw. What is the rule on that? I know you can't swat the ball, and if it accidently hit you, then it's still in play, but what about moving your running path to intentionally block a throw? I guess I've never noticed someone doing that before.
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In reply to AustinAg2K • 3:44p, 10/20/19
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Totally legal as long as you are in the baseline. That's why runners on third lead off in foul but go back in fair. It's a way to make the pallet tougher.
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3:55p, 10/20/19
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Has anyone seen the xBA of the ball that Brantley caught, or the one by Reddick? I see some of you guys posting those numbers sometimes - where do you get them?
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4:19p, 10/20/19
AG
Hindsight is 20/20, but I thought it was a dumb risk at the time. That ball was basically coming straight down, so I don't think he makes it to third even if Brantley doesn't catch it. Maybe it bounces off of Brantley far enough for him to get to third, but doesn't seem likely, and certainly not worth the risk of getting doubled off.
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In reply to agsalaska • 4:53p, 10/20/19
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agsalaska said:
willie wonka said:
I originally thought that he went all the way to second in case Brantley couldn't get to it and catch it on a bounce and throw him out at 2nd. Is that not what y'all thought?
I don't think he ever thought Brantley was going to catch it. He was thinking about third base.


He may have been focusing on Bregman sprinting backwards and thinking it would drop due to him being unable to make the catch

His Judgement may have been focusing on the wrong fielder
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In reply to astros4545 • 5:25p, 10/20/19
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That would make sense.
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In reply to McInnis • 7:01p, 10/20/19
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Safe at Home said:
Has anyone seen the xBA of the ball that Brantley caught, or the one by Reddick? I see some of you guys posting those numbers sometimes - where do you get them?
The one Brantley caught had an EV of 68.2 mph, 42 degree LA and an xBA of .370. Reddick's catch was on Gardner's liner with an EV of 99 mph, 16 degree LA and an xBA of .570

I use baseballsavant.com, which is MLB's statcast/data website.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 10:59p, 10/20/19
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mathguy86 said:
Safe at Home said:
Has anyone seen the xBA of the ball that Brantley caught, or the one by Reddick? I see some of you guys posting those numbers sometimes - where do you get them?
The one Brantley caught had an EV of 68.2 mph, 42 degree LA and an xBA of .370. Reddick's catch was on Gardner's liner with an EV of 99 mph, 16 degree LA and an xBA of .570

I use baseballsavant.com, which is MLB's statcast/data website.


Sounds like with a .370 xBA on the Brantley catch, that ball exit velocity and launch angle is a textbook bloop single
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In reply to AgsMnn • 6:26a, 10/21/19
AgsMnn said:
Why wasn't Altuve going to cover 2nd?


There's not really a reason to here. If the ball drops, judge is already at 2B, but even if he was halfway he would get there easily before bregman or brantley picked up the dropped ball and got it back in. On the other hand, there's no reason to have any action happen at 2B once the ball was caught.

Altuve might have just been caught watching, but there's nothing he should really have been doing anyways. Correa covering third was the crucial move here.
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In reply to backintexas2013 • 4:59p, 10/22/19
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backintexas2013 said:
Totally legal as long as you are in the baseline. That's why runners on third lead off in foul but go back in fair. It's a way to make the pallet tougher.


Partially.

If you're standing in foul territory and get hit by a batted ball it's a foul ball.

If you're standing in fair territory -not in contact with a base- and get hit by a batted ball you're out.
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9:59p, 10/22/19
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I disagree that it was a historic error. Nobody thought he was going to catch it. We all like aggressive base runners and that's the drawback.

I ****ing despise the Yankees. At least as much as Iran. But I don't blame Judge for that DP. I credit Brantley.
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