How big are your cans?

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

Sounds like you need to sell for a multi-level marketing firm!

Just work harder at your current job

Motis B Totis said:

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Just work harder at your current job

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It seems like many younger people spend effort on a side hustle that would better be spent trying to increase performance at work or better themselves through education.

Edit to add: I'm not saying this is specifically the case for OP, just a general observation.

Motis B Totis said:

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Just work harder at your current job

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This idea does not work well in current times. Example:

Year 2022 - work 45 hours per week. Get no raise.

Year 2023 - work 60 hours per week. Get no raise. Two of your Five Teammates RIFd.

Year 2024 - work 69 hours per week. Get 3% raise. Two new employees hired at a 1.1x rate compared to you.

Year 2025 - work 70 hours per week. Get 2.1% raise. Mentor two new employees.

Year 2026 - work 80 hours per week. No raise and the two newest employees quit b/c of no raises.

Year 2027 - work 80 hours per week. Get divorced b/c your phone wont stop ringing. Get 1.69% raise.

Year 2028 - Get laid off b/c you cost too much and a trans-man was hired to replace you at 1.8x your previous pay.



I always used the "Salaries buy lunches. Commissions buy dinners and weekends." idea.


If you are not compensated for extra work. DO NOT DO IT!

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How big are your cans?

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A little bigger than I want, but wrong gender for what you're implying.

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why not do uber eats deliveries?

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I think this kind of thing could work for others, but I'm looking to do something from my home/ office.

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DM me - might have something for you.

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I can't DM here on TexAgs, but I found your email on a previous post of yours. I'll shoot you an email.

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Sounds like you need to sell for a multi-level marketing firm!

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I just need to find that guy at HEB who spied my Aggie Ring /eyeroll

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Just work harder at your current job

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It seems like many younger people spend effort on a side hustle that would better be spent trying to increase performance at work or better themselves through education.

Edit to add: I'm not saying this is specifically the case for OP, just a general observation.

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I started with this, but my job is just kind of seasonal because of what I do. There are parts of the year when there aren't 8 hours of work to do. I'm considered a high performer, and when promotion opportunities arise I'll be one of the first in line - but that may be 2 months or 2 years from now.

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This idea does not work well in current times. Example:

Year 2022 - work 45 hours per week. Get no raise.
Year 2023 - work 60 hours per week. Get no raise. Two of your Five Teammates RIFd.
Year 2024 - work 69 hours per week. Get 3% raise. Two new employees hired at a 1.1x rate compared to you.
Year 2025 - work 70 hours per week. Get 2.1% raise. Mentor two new employees.
Year 2026 - work 80 hours per week. No raise and the two newest employees quit b/c of no raises.
Year 2027 - work 80 hours per week. Get divorced b/c your phone wont stop ringing. Get 1.69% raise.
Year 2028 - Get laid off b/c you cost too much and a trans-man was hired to replace you at 1.8x your previous pay.

I always used the "Salaries buy lunches. Commissions buy dinners and weekends." idea.

If you are not compensated for extra work. DO NOT DO IT!

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I don't mind doing extra work - I do it all the time. But the general premise of your post seems to be spot on with the corporate culture I've seen across a couple different companies. It seems like it is very difficult to keep up with inflation at the same company unless you take a couple steps up the ladder (and even then, you're probably not making as much as the external hires to your same position)

I'm just looking to use my extra time efficiently instead of watching TV.

Thought about finding a new job?
If you're an all star, maybe you're wasting your time in a place where you aren't fully utilized.

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Motis B Totis said:

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Just work harder at your current job

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It seems like many younger people spend effort on a side hustle that would better be spent trying to increase performance at work or better themselves through education.

Edit to add: I'm not saying this is specifically the case for OP, just a general observation.

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Now that I'm more experienced I realize I may see a lot bigger payoff focusing on being really talented in a career and getting a high salary than managing a career and a side business. For one, I don't have time for a side business the last year and half my hours have been insane. But now I've finally reached the first doubling of my base salary compared to my starting salary out of school (which was pretty high at the time). I'm making more than I imagined I would at this point, but it requires relocating to a new city that is the hub for my industry.

Focusing on interview skills and technical problems to get through difficult interviews, as well as spending some time learning negotiation skills and tactics, has had tremendous returns for me.

Focus on mastering skills that command high income may be a better option for many than a "side hustle" unless the side hustle can grow into a full time business and you have real passion for it.

There is also a lot of random chance involved with respect to opportunities. All I can say is to be prepared for them. Master in demand skills that people will pay you for.

I know I've done a lot more self teaching and independent study than most and it has paid off. Taught myself to code working python programming books really set me apart, and I bought and studied additional engineering text books 8 years after graduation and even worked practice problems. This deliberate skill development got me where I am today and set me apart from most peers.

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evestor1 said:

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Motis B Totis said:

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Just work harder at your current job

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This idea does not work well in current times. Example:

Year 2022 - work 45 hours per week. Get no raise.

Year 2023 - work 60 hours per week. Get no raise. Two of your Five Teammates RIFd.

Year 2024 - work 69 hours per week. Get 3% raise. Two new employees hired at a 1.1x rate compared to you.

Year 2025 - work 70 hours per week. Get 2.1% raise. Mentor two new employees.

Year 2026 - work 80 hours per week. No raise and the two newest employees quit b/c of no raises.

Year 2027 - work 80 hours per week. Get divorced b/c your phone wont stop ringing. Get 1.69% raise.

Year 2028 - Get laid off b/c you cost too much and a trans-man was hired to replace you at 1.8x your previous pay.



I always used the "Salaries buy lunches. Commissions buy dinners and weekends." idea.


If you are not compensated for extra work. DO NOT DO IT!

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2 years working 80 hours per week for standard salary? Doubtful. I don't think anyone would do that for 2 years without jumping ship unless they have really good pay or some equity in the business.

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You have limitd experience. I see fools do it for years on end.

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evestor1 said:

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Motis B Totis said:

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Just work harder at your current job

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This idea does not work well in current times. Example:

Year 2022 - work 45 hours per week. Get no raise.

Year 2023 - work 60 hours per week. Get no raise. Two of your Five Teammates RIFd.

Year 2024 - work 69 hours per week. Get 3% raise. Two new employees hired at a 1.1x rate compared to you.

Year 2025 - work 70 hours per week. Get 2.1% raise. Mentor two new employees.

Year 2026 - work 80 hours per week. No raise and the two newest employees quit b/c of no raises.

Year 2027 - work 80 hours per week. Get divorced b/c your phone wont stop ringing. Get 1.69% raise.

Year 2028 - Get laid off b/c you cost too much and a trans-man was hired to replace you at 1.8x your previous pay.



I always used the "Salaries buy lunches. Commissions buy dinners and weekends." idea.


If you are not compensated for extra work. DO NOT DO IT!

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2 years working 80 hours per week for standard salary? Doubtful. I don't think anyone would do that for 2 years without jumping ship unless they have really good pay or some equity in the business.

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You have limitd experience. I see fools do it for years on end.

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I've been doing a solid 60 hours the past few months and am now doing 80 for the past 3 weeks. I have to be at the job site 11-13 hours a day 6 days a week for a 4-6 weeks push.

without seriously good pay, commissions, or some stake in the company it's hard to imagine anyone putting up with that much time commitment for more than a few weeks, let alone years. Pretty sure everyone around me would quit by the end of month 3 if these 80 hour weeks weren't temporary.

Or we have priorities other than work. Work is about number 5 on my "important list" and that's because it pays for other things higher.

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[And personally, I think the vast majority of people are too lazy to put in 80 hours per week

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With a few exceptions, routinely working 80 hours a week makes your a dumbass. Refusing to do it doesn't make you lazy.

Nobody routinely works 80 hours per week. It's complete bull sh.it whenever you hear that. The biggest sustainable pace someone can do is about 55.